(00:02) all right everyone thank you to mercedes and jade for coming on the newbie podcast i am so excited to have you both on today for everyone that does not know who these two beautiful ladies are they are from the magic hour podcast a whole philosophy spirituality podcast and i’m really excited that we connected our agent has actually connected both of us and um so excited to talk to both of you so welcome to the show and i’m so happy that we can see each other right now i know that everyone listening on like

(00:34) apple podcasts and stuff it’s just audio but i’m starting to do more face-to-face and i feel like it’s always so much nicer so welcome yeah thanks for having us should we just kind of get right into how you guys started your podcast your brand and how both of you kind of uniquely found spirituality and your love for thinking i guess outside of the box sure jay do you want to kick it off um so as far as my own um awakening when it comes to spirituality i grew up in a really tumultuous childhood a lot of abuse a lot of
(01:17) violence um ended up on the streets by 14 and um kind of had that going on for a couple years then was adopted by a super religious family at 16 and um that kind of even though it was a religious family you know it was a lot of faith talk and things like that so that kind of opened up my mind a lot and then when i left there um i had a couple mentors come in my life that luckily um opened up that door even more for me and um you know started watching documentaries and reading books like we all do when we start having those um
(01:54) those feelings inside of us popping up and then um did some volunteer work uh in other countries and that really popped my bubble and was like a reality check of despair and um so that opened up in me just wanting to make a big difference and um around that time is when i met mercedes we were ring girls for a fight league uh which is really fun and such a cool journey because we were you know going all over the country and um you know we were with each other more than we were home basically for a while there so um
(02:26) we got super close we were um we were really different in a lot of ways and so um we really complimented each other a lot and um i ended up leaving the fight league once i had my first child and um around that time it was really only the joe rogan podcast that i feel like people listen to or knew about and uh but there were a couple of mma shows that we would frequent and every time i would go on an mma show i would get messages of like man your story helped me so much and now i feel like i can get through you know what i’m going through and that
(03:05) just made me feel so um purposeful and so i thought well i wonder if there’s a way for me to like maybe i can start a podcast and like that be how i um make a difference uh but there was always the feeling of yeah but later because right now i’m really tired and right now i’m really busy and then after like a couple years of thinking later um i just thought i’m just gonna try it now and my soul instantly said mercedes and so i reached out to her and um we hadn’t talked about it yet but um it
(03:38) was a pipe dream for her as well and so i’ll let her tell her side of the story but um yeah so it’s been about two years now and like you said we’ve we basically talked about philosophy and spirituality and um also you know uh a lot of like masculine and feminine you know things and uh self-growth tools and healing and things with experts that have really i feel like aided in my journey and been kind of like a weekly therapy session so um now i’m able to get those weekly emails from people saying you know what a difference
(04:09) it’s made in their lives and it’s been one of the best the best lights in my own life as well so wow that is so cool and so i love stories that help people like i i just love hearing that because you know just being so honest and raw about your experience like it it’s so impactful for so many people that don’t really have that voice to speak up right so i would love to hear your side mercedes um of your story how you guys kind of created this and maybe even a bit of insight on your journey with
(04:43) you know life and personal development yeah i think my story really starts of course as all of ours do as a young child but i won’t bring too much of of the the highs and lows of of what brought me to guess who i am today but um i’d say unlike jade i didn’t have this this overt type of abuse and and violence that was happening in my household but i did have the um more psychological side of things that was rough you know getting through figuring out you know how to divorce family and that type of thing so
(05:20) it was a struggle for me growing up figuring out who i was and how i was going to be able to what i thought what my duty was was to take care of my parents take care of my sisters take care of my friends like i was the take care of person you know always responsible and so figuring out how to juggle that and also i got to be independent and you know all the social pressures that were coming at me every angle is just a female in this world um i think really got me to a place at a very young age where i was just
(05:56) struggling with what is life all about why is this all this pressure like what is this all really for and so i started having what i call now um awakenings or at the time i called them breakdowns um and now i think even the better term for them is really uh existential paralysis because for me the questioning like the self-questioning came through existential questioning for me um i was born to a family of my dad’s like science base he’s a chemist who’s like total atheist you know science nerd and then my mom who
(06:33) i came from living in my grandparents house with my family um originally catholic upbringing like super super hardcore catholics uh my mom’s a little more woo-woo like spiritually why she she grew up in a catholic household obviously with my grandparents being that strict and so between those two like contradicting you know mindsets i had to figure out how to navigate the world with this idea of is there a god is there not a god you know so spirituality has always been a really major part of my life whether i
(07:09) was resisting it and angry at dogma and angry at religion and all these things that come with it and especially the shame for me i was shamed a ton when i was a kid especially by my catholic side right um seems to come with that dogma for some reason unfortunately but then i had this other place to play that was shown to me too where i could see that there was a world where you kind of make it up as you go and you figure it out along the way and you really just do your best to sort through it all with intense questioning and so then that became my
(07:46) one of my dogmas you know like questioning and i think that that you know if we fast forward these existential paralysis moments like the one the first one i had was like of 11 i remember not going to school for like two weeks because i was bawling for weeks at a time um not being able to answer the questions like why am i here what is this all for what is my purpose is there a god my dad being the person i happen to be in his house at the moment when that happened for me and his answer was i don’t know sadie like
(08:14) sorry but i don’t know and you know he doesn’t have answers because he lives in that gray area as an atheist um so for me just trying to find answers became my goal it was like okay the purpose i’m going to stick with for now that’s going to get me through this so that i can like not be in this mental chaos 24 7 is and i literally assigned myself a purpose which is interesting for an 11 year old i think to do but i had no other option you know i was desperate literally and so assigning myself this purpose of
(08:50) questioning of okay i will be you know this one little tiny increment of the species that chips away at this major question that we all have and can’t answer there’s got to be an answer somewhere there’s got to be something that makes you feel like you can hold this vast existential question right and so that’s kind of where my journey took off and and i hit a lot of road you know a lot of bumps in the road along the way um where i had you know further breakdowns in other directions further dark dark night nights of the
(09:23) soul whatever you want to call them but all these obstacles and that would usually bring me to seek in some direction so whether it be like a book that it guided me to and then i’d start diving into this philosophy and then you know the next obstacle or you know rock bottom i like to call them would guide me to the next um place to seek whether it be ted talks and youtube videos and whatever it was that i was gaining this information from but jade was doing a lot of that on her own at the same time so you know jade kind of walked you
(09:54) through the story of how we met and all that so this is you know my life in in a in a nutshell is kind of this questioning and getting to this point where i had soaked up so much of that because of my own personal desperation and wanting to become a full spectrum human you know what i i like to call it remembering so all the different members that belong in in my body right like all my personalities all the parts of my personalities that have come through these domestications that make me me i was attempting to to reconfigure them into
(10:29) this whole person i call myself um and as i was doing that jade was kind of doing a lot of the same thing on her end you know seeking in her own directions and i think when we came to the place where she called and said hey i’m thinking of doing a podcast is that something you’d want to join me on it was like so we were so ready for it you know what i mean like ready to give the world what we had learned or at least hold space on a platform um to talk to people from all walks of life these experts the people who we’ve
(11:02) had on our podcast i have no idea it’s like by the grace of you know the divine universe or something that they’ve aligned with us but really uh they’re here to speak truth to whoever is ready to listen and we’re just holding space for that on our platform because it’s been so powerful in both of our lives like seeking and just seeking in whatever direction you feel called and the answers that come from that are it’s like yes it’s always it’s always exactly what you need because that’s the
(11:34) direction you’re going anyway so with the podcast it was really just like obvious for us like we just wanted to create a place where people could come do the hard work and maybe get through those bumps in the road that we had both confronted a little more gracefully a little more easier at least have a place to come and listen to experts in that realm you know from like i said all walks of life whether it’s psychologists of course we interview a lot of psychologists and we di deep di di deep dive that’s hard to say
(12:06) deep dive into psychology all the time because it’s something that’s so um i think we’re both so passionate about and it’s so critical and luckily we’re taking a turn now in society where mental health has become um something we’re talking about more it’s less taboo which is so beautiful but you know being a place where we can talk talk about topics that are super taboo or that are just left unsaid in a place that feels really safe there’s no shame like no shame available um and
(12:41) give our listeners a place to also ask their questions you know we ask questions from our listeners on every show and so just kind of full circle bringing it all the things that we were seeking for and couldn’t find all the things that we’re seeking for now and are you know being aligned with these different experts that we have on the show to explore with um and then all the things that our listeners bring up that they want to also touch on and it’s us giving back in the way that also fills us up so yeah that’s how that’s
(13:10) how it happened i love it i love talking to people that have their own podcasts because they really know how to like explain things in a way and like you guys are good at explaining stories and and topics and it’s that’s really nice to hear i love that thank you i actually really appreciate you saying that because i think one of our biggest struggles in starting the podcast we both felt we weren’t um articulate enough or we were you know worried about people thinking we’re not intelligent enough and all these things that you
(13:43) have to push through when you have a public show it’s like [ __ ] it do it you know yeah for sure and also if your first product is good then you started to wait so yes i like that right never heard that before that’s good yeah that’s kind of my philosophy of everything you just gotta start and then adjusting goes and it just pushes you you know so i want to hear about both of your biggest just like beliefs like you know what what do you guys see as the truth like what are your spiritual philosophies um what do you live your
(14:15) life by you know on my show we talk a lot about energies law of attraction manifestation more of that kind of stuff um and i’m i’m still kind of in my learning journey and i’m so open-minded to everything i love to learn i if you see right next to my bed here i have all my books like i’m always learning about stuff and i’m always super curious so i’d love to hear both of your you know i guess thoughts on what philosophy is you live by what truths that you know to be true um in your existence and how you
(14:52) use spirituality in your day-to-day life to get what you want to live how you want and so on so forth so shall we start with jade again sure um that’s such a big question um [Music] i think that like mercedes i kind of make myself like a human guinea pig with growth tools like i’ll pretty much try anything if it means that i’m going to be my better self uh through it and um so i i feel like in the last couple of years especially i’ve tried a lot of different methods what has worked best for me um [Music]
(15:39) would be two things um one thing would be plant medicine um i’ve done somewhere around 20 ceremonies with plant medicine and uh i just feel like it’s really rewired my brain um [Music] i’ve i’ve always struggled with depression and anxiety throughout my entire life but the way that the difference now is uh it now when it hits it it’s like if it’s like i can take notice of it and not get so engulfed in it to where like this is gonna be life forever and um [Music] the other thing is uh with plant medicine is like
(16:26) it’s hard to explain i don’t know if y’all talk about point medicine a lot on your show um or not do you or are you talking about um doing like ayahuasca and yeah rooms and stuff yeah all different types i think maybe it’s been a couple times than 200 plus episodes i’ve done but this is something that i want to talk about because i haven’t and i’m i don’t use drugs like when i when i when i was younger and i went through a party phase i did so i’ve never used drugs in a healing form
(16:55) um so i have no experience with it but i’ve heard a lot of stories of people that have had amazing experiences and does open up new you know places in your mind so it’d be really cool to hear about your experience with that yeah so um so i think the biggest thing for me with with the plant medicine was um not only how it helped me work through anxiety and depression when it would hit um but it i feel like it the reason why i asked if you had talked about it before is because it’s so hard to explain
(17:30) what happens but it’s like you really feel like a rewiring of your brain and um you know i’m not sure if that’s something that happens with the neurotransmitters or um things like that but i know for me prior to plant medicine i would see certain things like random things like a hammer or a certain shaped knife or even like something like dog poop on the side of the you know on the side of the running trail i was on and it would immediately send me like the image of whatever trauma that had in my childhood so i would see the
(18:04) hammer and i would i would get this like flashback of like my father chasing me with one or i would see the knife and i would see this flashback of what my mom did with the knife that looked like that um and so like really you know traumatic memories would come back but it would um it would affect my emotional estate emotional state for the rest of the day now um after after doing plant medicine and it wasn’t just like a snap of the fingers the first time but after working with plants for a while um after maybe a few sessions
(18:36) i started to notice that when i would see those images that wouldn’t happen anymore so it was it was that that’s the best example i can give of like how i feel like it really did rewire my brain because i couldn’t really control how my thoughts would just go in that direction prior um so kind of change sorry to interrupt you quickly but i just uh kind of go over that it kind of changed your conditions of thinking of certain things when you saw certain triggers it like changed that i feel like in your mind out my
(19:08) brain in a way yeah it’s it’s a it’s a hard thing to describe um [Music] but yeah i feel like it really like cleaned out my brain and removed trauma responses in a way um [Music] interject just because i’ve been i’ve sat with you through so much podcasting um where we’ve relived a lot of these experiences um for you with uh whether it be your therapist yeah healer and shamans that you know you work with with your plant medicines we’ve actually interviewed as well so just as an outside perspective and and
(19:44) me me to catch up speed on my piece on this is i don’t experiment with plant medicines myself yet i like to say yes because it makes jade smile um but i really focus on the psychology of it for me you know i use i use maybe more traditional methods like talk therapy and doing my own journaling and deep diving and jade does those things as well too but i think from my experience just to to articulate it further of watching jade through the time that she’s been doing plant medicine because i knew her before
(20:16) she started and i’ve known her you know through all of it and she’d report into the podcast like this week i’m doing my tenth session with ayahuasca or watchum or whatever it was and um each time we’d get to see how it opened up her psyche and i think to speak to what she’s talking about were these traumas you know something would come up that would trigger a trauma where if you think about a ptsd patient or someone like that who when a trauma is triggered they’re in the midst of the emotion that
(20:43) comes with that trauma and they can’t see outside of it so therefore they’re reacting from an emotional state that is triggered by the trauma right so we know that about you know vets uh uh military bets are obvious an obvious example of that but everybody is suffering some form of ptsd from their own traumas so in jade’s case i heard her articulate or with therapists heard her articulate um that these traumas come up but because the medicine is there the medicine actually i’m going to talk about
(21:14) medicine talking about plant medicine here acts as a buffer so that she can see it from outside of the emotion so you’ve probably heard about ptsd patients right now working in conjunction with therapists using psilocybins that’s mushrooms right so psilocybin does exactly that which is obviously a plant medicine it comes from a mushroom it’s a plant um a fungi i guess technically and that gives you what sometimes we call mindfulness gap or the ability to see something from a bit of a distance you can have a
(21:50) conscious response to it instead of an emotional reaction so i think for jade what i’ve heard from her a lot of the time was that she finally saw a trauma for what it was a trauma that happened at this other time not the pattern that she’s going to continue running for the rest of her life because she can’t see it that clearly because she’s stuck in the emotion of it does that make sense that makes so much sense that’s such a great picture for me to just imagine like you know i don’t know
(22:19) much about plant medicine so to hear that from you that it just kind of takes you out of being in your head and it kind of takes from my understanding of your description and takes you out from in your head and you see it from a different perspective almost yeah which i think also gives you a lot of self-compassion so then you start to actually when you are in the midst of you know going into a trauma response or a heavy trigger you you’re a little bit more patient with yourself which makes a huge difference because if you
(22:49) are being hard on yourself when you’re going through a hard time it’s you know makes it just so much more harder so um so i think it gives a lot of self-compassion and then you just become so much more aware of okay i’m reacting this way because that trauma is being poked and not actually because this is a big deal so um and like mercedes said you know journaling and therapy um are very powerful tools i think that um for me i just really had this i i get very hyper focused on things and i was like hyper focused on healing and i
(23:24) wanted to like speed it up and it was like in one ceremony i would feel like i had done years of therapy and like gained a lot of understanding on myself um so that has been the biggest tool in my life and i think the second and most useful tool would be um having a really honest um [Music] and a conscious community so i think that it was easy to be comfortable um and not like numb myself when i was around friends that weren’t really talking about um a higher awareness and that weren’t holding me accountable and pointing out
(24:11) you know areas that i could grow or pointing out like the beauty that they saw in me because it wasn’t um it just it wasn’t very um in-depth conversations it wasn’t we weren’t really seeing each other for who we really were and when i really um chose to surround myself and ask you know started calling those people in it made all the difference in my life because not only are those people seeking to grow and it’s like you know the iron sharpening iron and i’m like benefiting off their growth while
(24:39) they’re benefiting off mine but they and you know they add so much beauty to my life but they also when i go to them they call me on my ship they don’t just um take my side it’s not just an echo chamber they really tell me like i think that where where you can grow with this is this and then you know my experience becomes an opportunity for growth instead of just like a vicious cycle of like i’m constantly going to my friends about the same old same old and we’re just going out and having drinks to like complain about it
(25:15) yeah um and so um [Music] sometimes by the way yeah that’s a shame anyone doing that yeah um so yeah and also just having friends that um that are really on the growth path has made a huge difference because they’re constantly opening up new perspectives to me and um i i i honestly don’t know who i would be without the people in my circle so um i think those are my two strongest tools and um as far as beliefs um i’ve gotten really comfortable with saying i don’t know like i really cause like i grew up in such a religious
(26:00) background that like we had to be so certain that heaven was this and hell was this and this is how you got there and this is how you got here and i’ve gotten we talk about one of our slogans on the show it’s like journeying into the gray and so i’ve really gotten comfortable with just like really not knowing what is for sure what’s you know certain and that’s what i enjoy about our show too is that we have on people from all walks of life we had on a pasture one week and the next week we had on someone who her
(26:31) whole theme is is the archetype of the sacred [ __ ] so i really enjoy like seeing both sides of the coin and you know changing my belief system constantly so i mean what i believe right now not to say that like it’s so fragile my belief system is so fragile that like you throw a stone at it and i believe something else but i’m constantly adding to it and um and growing in that area and um [Music] yeah love it i love that so much and so you know i love how honest you are because i think so many people especially
(27:11) you know that have gone through their own growth like and including me sometimes i’ll just be like oh i know that this is the truth of all and then sometimes i change my mind and you know so it’s definitely very commendable that you just feel like yeah i don’t know everything but i know this so far and you know i i’m still on my journey and and that’s that’s very cool and you know the spiritual journey is one that i’m really just embarking on like over the past year i would say like i’ve always
(27:36) been pretty involved um in my curiosity around it but i i’m doing you know weekly sessions with my intuitive coach and i’m just like i’m really trying to uh delve into it a bit more and see the magic of it um so what about you mercedes what are kind of your top philosophies and how do you use them in your life yeah so the things that i’ve come back to over and over again and that feel true every time i come to them um i like to use i like to use this phrase from paul selig who’s someone we’ve had
(28:11) on the show repeatedly because he’s he’s a he’s an amazing channel um a medium i guess you can call he says what’s true is always true and i believe you can like feel truth when you say it and if you don’t then you gotta look deeper you know figure out what’s what’s the truth underneath um and so when i say this phrase a lot of people have a response haven’t have a negative response or they definitely have a resistance to it and what it is is everyone is doing the best they can
(28:46) from their specific domestications and i think so many people do not want to accept that even my husband doesn’t want to accept that you know um but i know it’s true because it’s the it’s there is no other way so i’ll say it again everyone is doing the best they can from their specific domestications and if you can believe that everyone is doing the best they can in every moment considering who you know all the obstacles in their life they’ve come through all the teachings in their life
(29:16) they’ve come through to be the person they are today or in other words you could say you would be doing exactly what that person was doing if you had had their identical domestications that’s hard to believe but once you can understand that that is truth it changes your life in an instant because suddenly you can have compassion for every single person because of you know that their truth is they are doing the very best that they can considering um this goes for the you know the worst criminal the pedophile i mean all the
(29:52) darkest people you can think about as as well as all the brightest lights in the world and so understanding that for me i might sound simple to you you probably already get that you know depending on the type of person you are but i think for me that was a critical point where i realized i had been projecting what i wanted the world to look like from my own perspective which comes through my own domestications when i say domestications it means conditioning you know my own obstacle my own set of obstacles and and highlights
(30:27) and because i had been projecting onto the world that i wanted it to look this way and that i wanted this person and you know in my relationship to act this way and this person to act this way and such i was suffering because of course they weren’t going to because i was putting a projection onto them it was not who they actually were so accepting the fact that they are doing the best they can from where they’re coming from gives me some freedom to allow others to do what what they will at their own will
(30:57) instead of trying to control everybody so that really helped um ease my own suffering and also give compassion to others empathy to others and meet them where they’re at which is like so so critical and so i think underrated because we want to be in control so much as little humans i know i’m speaking for myself as a control freak we want to be in control so much that we create these stories and fantasies and projections and we create our own suffering by doing so um not that you can’t escape to a fantasy here and there but you gotta
(31:33) check back in with reality and realize the people in front of you for who they are and not for your you know fantasy you projected onto them and keep going why aren’t you showing up for the way that i know you could be your potential blah blah these are all projections yeah so that’s did you want to say something on that no i just want to say you’re so right like you know and what you said there you know people are doing the best with what they have like i’ve heard that a few times before too and it’s just so true you can’t control
(32:01) people and you need to let people figure it out in their own way and it’s something i’ve definitely had to deal with as well you know i i’m always i will not always i’ve been totally critical of people that i love my life saying you should do this you should do that but at the end of the day they’re doing the best with with what they have you know what they’re doing and it’s hard because you justify it with like that’s coming from a place of love yeah but yeah you say well my intentions are are
(32:27) only positive for you but we know that the road to hell is paved in good intentions because it’s also paved in projections i think that word projections is really powerful when we can figure out how that works into our life and how we’re trying to control others um and then the the back end of that little piece is that mantra of hurt people hurt people or hurting people hurt people however you want to say it but basically just knowing that if someone is you you’re witnessing someone in your life trying to cause you pain or it
(33:00) seems as though that they are going out of their way to do something that would cause you pain you have to know this is another truth you know this is what’s true is always true they are in pain they are hurting somewhere and it’s not to say oh we’ll forgive them and keep them in your life and coddle them or anything like that it may be to cut them out completely and move on with your life but give them the forgiveness of i know you’re hurting you did that out of a place that wasn’t authentic to who you are you’re full
(33:30) spectrum human your inner watcher however you want to say it um and let it and let it be at that and just remember that when people do things that are terrible to other people um it’s coming from a place of pain so we have to figure out what the healing is you know we don’t have to figure it out for them we have to look at our own [ __ ] like where are we being pain hurtful to other people and therefore where are we experiencing pain that needs to be healed and then go after that so that’s been a really critical part of
(34:01) of my spiritual awakening really and my ability to build compassion and empathy which i think i haven’t always been great at um and then i asked this question that came actually through one of one of our guests one of our favorite guests peter crone on the show and he says who am i in the absence of all my concerns so like this is a question i try to ask myself daily so who am i in the absence of all my concerns and that question is so hard to even hold because you’re like trying to escape it with every i mean in every angle you will try
(34:37) to escape that question you know like well what what about this who are you in the absence of all your concerns if you can find that place if you sit with that question long enough in the absence of all your concerns right we all are really identical we are this inner watcher we are this the seat of the soul if you want to call it we’re just these this collective conscious that is only here to witness it is peaceful it is love it is nothing nothing really that holds good or bad it’s just here it’s our
(35:17) beingness right our inner beingness and so getting there is really critical to re returning home you know when you’re in the midst of all the chaos that life brings and it wants to drag you here and there and take you you know to suffering and take you to the highs and lows and everything in between but the the inner beingness that we can tap into at any moment by asking ourselves that question who am i in the absence of all my concerns is the part that keeps us on track actually after you know under all of it it’s just we are here like i
(35:50) am period and that’s a miracle in itself that’s so interesting because i’m in the middle of reading this book i don’t know if you’ve heard of dr joe disenza yeah yeah i’m sure we’re well we’re obsessed with him here at the me maybe podcast i am and everyone knows i talk about him all the time and i’m obsessed i just have you done his breath work oh yeah the seven minute one it’s it i guess you like it feels like you’re doing kegels like all the way up to your brain [Laughter]
(36:25) i do his meditations all the time he is it’s he’s really helped change my life and you know i dm him all the time and he never answers but it’s okay one day you gotta keep trying girl there you go joe we’re all three of us we’re gonna energetically pull them in yeah [Laughter] no but honestly i love this book and i’m reading it uh right now and it’s very similar to the online courses that i did but when you were saying just being like conscious and being just awareness not being your problems not being your
(36:58) personality your gender your whatever just being consciousness you know what he says in the book is that that’s the optimal place of creation so in those meditations that he gets us to do um you know he you want to be in that place of just consciousness of being in the eternal black space right and it’s like so confusing at first for people listening right now that have no idea what we’re talking about like trust me i felt the same when i first heard about it but um you know just being just being
(37:25) in the present now and when you’re so purely in the now you’re not thinking about you don’t even have a personality right because you don’t even know who you are because if it’s just now you don’t have a past right so um you know i love what you said there because it really just uh it’s similar to what he says you know just being pure consciousness and the interesting thing is that that’s where creation happens you know like to absolutely have blank slate and just you know create
(37:52) whatever you want in your life you have to start from that and i kind of before we wrap everything up i want to talk about law of attraction manifestation energy type of stuff i want to hear both of your opinions on that and if you’ve ever had any cool manifestations happen in your life since you started in this whole spirituality kind of consciousness vibe yeah yeah um i feel like whatever you it’s almost like whatever you say then the universe just says yes so if you’re constantly saying like i don’t have enough or
(38:35) um you’re using um low vibrational words then the universe like has big ears and says yes but if you’re saying like this is what i want this is what’s coming to me then like the universe says yes to that so i do i do believe in manifestation in that sense i also really really value being intentional um and i know a lot of men in relationships don’t like that because they feel like it feels forced but i feel like there’s a difference between um obligation and intention it’s like knowing your partner’s love
(39:12) language and intentionally making her feel loved versus um you know making it into a chore and feeling like an obligation it’s you’re doing it out of love and you’re just being intentional so i feel um like in my own life i’ve i’ve worked hard to be intentional um by like future self journaling like making like writing out my life in present tense the way that i would want it to be um and i like to do that like about every six months but i think that the most effective example i can give is that
(39:53) um [Music] being a single mom of two toddlers uh about a year and a half ago um i i knew that i didn’t want to just like go jump in the dating scene and give my energy to whoever and so i took an eight-month celibacy and started um at the time i don’t recommend this at any other time at the time i did monthly ceremonies to aid and speed up my healing because i didn’t want to choose the same partner um with a different face i didn’t want to carry in the death from that relationship into the next one so i was
(40:31) very intentional with this year you know year of singledom if that’s a word and so i was doing um monthly ceremonies and i was being celibate so like really and not only with sex but also with um like alcohol and other things that i would typically use to numb myself after a breakup and masturbation at first until ayahuasca was like you know i think masturbation for six months yeah i think for six months and then i think um yeah and then um the plant medicine gave me homework of like this is a form of self-care
(41:08) um so um so i was very intentional with that but the um the part that i think would um play into the manifestation is that i also wrote out a dream partner list the way that i did the future self journaling and i said this is what i’m available for and i wrote out 18 traits of exactly what i wanted in a partner and i remember showing like the first guy i had an interest in who was actually a relationship therapist and he was like i think you should narrow it down to four and i was like four like for my life partner like
(41:41) i i can’t narrow it down to four there’s no way um because i really knew what i wanted and so um i was really really intentional with that because that’s such a big area of our lives and um then there’s so many synchronicities in the story that i feel like i’m leaving out but i ended up um meeting someone on on hinge a dating app which isn’t there i laugh because there’s that meme that’s like in your 20s you say um if if it’s my partner he’ll come find me or something or like i’ll i’m gonna go
(42:18) out and i don’t know it’s some meme about like it’ll just happen yeah yeah it’ll just happen and then um in your 30s you’re like he’ll find me on my couch yeah because you’re just cause you’re just like that you’re you’re over it in a way and i yeah so i um i listened to a lewis house podcast um about dating apps and it just really got me intrigued and so i got on and he was actually my first match and um within like a week i had told him like which would probably scare most guys but
(42:52) i told him like this i’m not i’m looking for my life partner i am not gonna waste my time or my energy um i actually have a list and i’m being very careful and he instead of him like being like god high maintenance or like you know like she’s moving really fast he’s like oh well let me see the list and i’ll i’ll make i’ll let you know how i’ll grade myself and i’ll give you my honest you know assessment and uh and i was really wowed back by that but um anyhow he had 16 out
(43:21) of the 18 traits and um he’s worked to you know work towards the other two to be the perfect 18 but um but yeah so that’s uh that was about a little over a year ago and that’s my partner now but um so i do fully believe in manifestation but i i i tend to lean towards the word intentional love that what a great story and that’s so amazing you know it’s so i i just want to say you know when i first met ben my life partner three years ago you know we’ve both evolved so much in our relationship too and he
(43:58) at first you know was what i wanted then and then it’s evolved over time with what i want now you know so for people oh yeah as well you know like like if they have most of it most of the ticked off things on the list maybe just a few that you still want just i guess patience as well as exactly and also if you feel like you found your dream partner it doesn’t mean it’s an easy relationship you know it still comes with its really hard times so um that’s another thing is like i think we get idealistic and think
(44:30) like well if it’s my dream partner it’ll be easy or like he won’t trigger me or you know we get all of these i like preconceived ideas going into the relationship and it may feel like that for a little while but then you know reality hits and then that’s when the work comes so it definitely doesn’t mean that you’re finding an easy relationship yeah so just to clarify that because i know um if i were when i was in a relationship i wasn’t happy and if i would have heard that i would have really like compared in my
(45:01) mind and things like that so totally all right mercedes manifestation what do you think yeah uh i first of all i just love that jade’s not looking for a 10 she’s looking for an 18. she’s way above and beyond um no and and tom is great and i think she i mean it’s hard to describe the story here of course but just in witnessing all that went down to get her to where she is today it was a full-blown uh peek into what manifestation looks like and i guess for me i’m like peeking in from the outside you know watching her
(45:41) story unfold with that and it was literal i mean it was the way that i don’t know you see in the secret or something like that we’re talking about law of attraction where it was like okay i’m going to do these steps with this intention and then you know that will open up to something that i want to call in and it did so and in the midst of it there’s all kinds of you know struggling and stifling and all kinds of things that we do to ourselves but she kept through and did it anyway you know and so it did end up creating what
(46:14) she was looking for yeah uh yeah so for me manifestation so manifestation i do um let’s see right now what comes up for me as i say that word is a quote my mom has always had posted on the wall which is we are not left to our fates without the ability to affect the outcome and she’s always had that on the wall i think it’s her own quote really and uh but that was your twitter bio when i met you yeah and so it’s something that i’ve always thought like i am creating what i want to call you know i i’m the creator
(46:53) of this and that seems and she also backed that up my mom my mom a lot a lot of mantras and quotes come from my mom i notice just generally but um she also backed that up or balanced that out maybe by always telling me mercedes you’re not the center of the universe the world does not revolve around you so those are two very contradicting statements right like we are supposed to be the the god of our universe right of our own personal universe where we manifest what we want we call in what we want and then at the same time
(47:27) humble yourself don’t be you know the the person who thinks that everything’s happening specifically for them those are literally directly opposing things and so um again i caused me to find myself in the gray area uh and and i say gray area with intention because i think everything in life happens through contrast in the binary world that human beings have constructed for ourselves right we have one or the other it’s always black or white it’s this world of these two extremes but the reality is all life
(48:00) pretty much cruises in the middle in the gray area so i say for me um really understanding that manifestation is about being the thing you’re trying to manifest which again sounds contradictory because how can you be it if you want to get there if it’s a destination and it comes back to this thing that uh one of our friends of the show again um tom shadiak says which is you already are yeah so if we already are what we are trying to manifest and then it’s just a matter of peeling back the layers of the onion
(48:41) and getting to a place to of remembering again it’s about pulling in the members of what you actually are and remembering the whole being that you’re attempting to strive towards so it’s actually not that you’re on this linear path you know time is an illusion guys it’s not that you’re on this linear path that one day you’re going to be the enlightened one one day you’re going to manifest the man of your dreams is all those things that we convince ourselves as the way things are going
(49:10) it’s that you are it now and it’s about figuring out how to do the healing work figuring out how to do the internal work figuring out how to do whatever it is emotional spiritual physical that you need to do to get yourself to remember that you already are that that is what your soul is it’s what it’s made of it’s what all of our souls are made of the knowingness that we are that thing that we seek we are what we seek and so being it experiencing what you’re looking for is i think what we’re after now how do i get there that
(49:47) is that’s again is it how do i get there because right i’m like taking myself from one place and trying to go to another well for me so trying to deconstruct time like going from one place to the next waiting for time to pass so that i can finally become that thing my human mind doesn’t have the ability to really transcend time at this point maybe one day again see how i just said one day but um what i can do is do the things like jade’s saying with intention that make me get a glimpse of oh [ __ ] i am
(50:26) the extraordinary wild woman that i see in someone else that i’ve always been envious of uh get a glimpse of i am the wife and partner i want to be to my husband that i’m always trying to work on becoming and so how do you get those glimpses so there’s things that probably everyone can turn in tune into like a sunset a sunset usually like a beautiful sunset will give everybody that feeling of like euphoria feeling of like wow how blessed am i to be here so anything that really creates gratitude i think is a way that we get to tap back
(51:05) into that place in us that remembers that just being is what it’s all about it is the thing that makes life worthwhile it’s purpose fulfilling it’s all the things like my little 11 year old self you know existentially was questioning it’s the answer essentially is just re realizing that you already are a blessed being with all the things you could possibly want it’s just getting finding ways to be in gratitude in that moment and then i would just leave with this is that my personal um experience especially over the last five
(51:43) months let’s call it for quarantine you know this time we’ve been all stuck indoors i took personal instruction from kovid to go inward um because i happened to be at a part of my journey where i was trying to hone trying to actively hone my intuition which is also contradictory because of course i don’t already have it i just don’t know how to listen to it you know i had to learn these things and hone the tools really and so at that time i said okay kobit is literally telling me to stop where i’m the busiest person in the
(52:14) world i try with intention to not glorify being busy but i do it anyway kovid said stop go inward shut it down right okay so then i hired a therapist so that i would have a therapist appointment every single week i did this for five months now i’ve been in quarantine and i dream journaled every single morning for the last five months and i have extremely vivid dreams so i knew i kind of already knew i had been dream journaling here and there when i had have a really extreme dream or something that really stuck with me
(52:48) but when kobet happened or the lockdown happened i took that as one of my tools so like some people journal in the morning they do like stream of consciousness journaling or some people meditate in the morning so what i do is i dream journal and dream journaling comes with this this um is essentially you have to be able to remember your dreams and in order to do that you can’t wake up to an alarm clock you have to lay in bed and basically recall the dreams while the dopamine and the melatonin and things that are that
(53:19) are settling out of your body as you wake up um dissipate so that you can actually continue to recall the dream and then remember it enough to write it down in a journal because those hormones that happen to put us to sleep also are what erase our dreams later because they create this fogginess so we don’t hold on to as much memory so anyway so i’ll lay there in the morning and i sometimes it wakes me up in the middle of night and i gotta go write it down right away but um i usually lay there in the morning and i recall my
(53:46) dreams for the first 30 minutes depending on how many dreams i remember it’s usually now two to three dreams a night and the more you do this practice the more you will remember and so now i’m journaling two to three dreams in a night and as the five months have unfolded the way it’s allowed me to look into my subconscious is changing my life at such a uh rapid state and creating the manifestation piece for me at such a obvious way that it’s it’s just beautiful and i think because i’ve always had vivid dreams and i’ve
(54:25) always had dreams that like even will tie to my sister and my mom’s dreams like so i knew my dreams already were something for me to use as a gift and then we had people on the show who were dream experts who were union psychologists and people who use that union theory of dream um psychology to unlock their subconscious because in our dreams our subconscious is telling us stories that we need to look at [ __ ] basically that we are not that we’re probably too busy to look at in our waking life comes up in our
(54:55) subconscious and it comes up in really distant um uh you know distant uh relations i don’t know how to say that exactly but in ways that are not specific like it’s not exactly obvious on the surface but if you look into it and you write it down the writing down literally transforms it into what your subconscious is trying to tell you and sometimes it seems so silly like one time i had a dream that i was hanging out with snoop dogg and i was like oh that doesn’t mean anything and eric dodsey who is a is amazing that we’ve
(55:24) had on the show a couple times was like i beg to differ yeah i think that it means that he was like well what is snoop dogg like what do you think of when you when you think of him and i was like he’s just so goofy and he was like well it’s your goofy side enticing you to hang out with that part of yourself and so it’s like even like things like that where i’m like i had a dream i’ll get a sweep dog like it’s just like a funny dream it can actually mean something if you dig you know deep enough
(55:52) yeah so that’s been my work for the last five months and i have seen stuff unfold because of doing that intentional work showing up for myself every day to do that specific work or every week with the therapist where if we want to talk about manifestation it comes through the intention of showing up for yourself showing up for your healing showing up for your integration your self integration and remembering cool wow i’m like meds rise i love talking to both of you i can’t believe it’s been an hour like this
(56:26) so quickly it’s so fascinating to hear your perspectives and i want to go binge listen to all of your episodes as well i feel like you guys have had some really amazing guests and i want to hear more about all of this so where can everyone find you obviously you guys have your podcast the magic hour with a j not a g and mercedes yeah mercedes and jade so what are both of your instagrams how can everyone connect with you further yeah so um the magic hours but with a j is is how you would find it on all platforms and we’re pretty active on
(57:06) there and we release a new episode every monday and then our own personal pages um mine is at the jade brice and hers is at mercedes terrell cool yeah well thank you so much i had the best time and i know my audience is just gonna be like inaud how much you both know about spirituality and i can’t wait to delve into it more so thank you both so much thank you thank you mimi for your show i listened to a few episodes and it’s really something that i think is changing the lives of people who listen because you’re again like similar to our
(57:42) show you know you’re putting out a platform or allowing a platform for people to come and share truth that is not always talked about it’s not always easy to talk about and then sharing tools and tricks and things that allow people to further their own healing obviously we’re all about that so i’m glad to just know a light like you is out there doing some shining herself thank you so much