(00:00) greetings boys and babes it’s the magic hour a place where we navigate through life’s Peaks and valleys with all the vulnerability and shamelessness we can muster with the help of worldclass guests from all walks of life we uncover new truths and valuable tools for manifesting our Highest Potential I’m your host Mercedes Terrell along with my partner in shine Jade Bryce hi you guys in April I participated in UniFi Global meditation event it was a 12-hour event during quarantine so we all tuned in

(00:32) through Facebook live I turned it on when it first began thinking I’d just pop in and out but I was immediately hooked each speaker gave so much hope in the middle of so much panic and fear and each guest was so amazing and we have booked a few of them for the show the first guest from the event is a man from The heartmath Institute yes I can’t wait and the Heart math experience you’re about to hear about is especially appropriate during these times for maintaining emotional balance mental Clarity and SU sustaining resilience the
(01:02) content is so uplifting and provides scientifically validated tools for managing stress and anxiety which we need M now more than ever so why don’t we get him on so we can get into what he’s all about yes our guest today is the heart math Institute research director and is letting the world know why heart coherence is essential in Stress Management and sustainable Behavior change he and his team are passionate about helping individuals organizations and the global Community incorporate the hearts intelligence into
(01:33) their day-to-day experience of life to develop innovative solutions to challenges increase cooperation and live healthier more fulfilling lives through empowering people to self-regulate their emotions and behaviors to reduce stress increase resilience and unlock their natural intuitive guidance for making more effective choices there have been over 300 peer reviewed or independent studies published utilizing heart math techniques and Technologies to achieve beneficial outcomes heartmath’s research on personal social and Global coherence
(02:04) shows how we can become more empowered directors of our future and the quality of Our Lives knowing that as more of us cooperate and connect from the heart together we can create a more compassionate World filled with true care and harmonious interactions he and the Heart math are helping to activate the heart of humanity we are so excited to welcome Roland mccr to the magic hour that’s a really long bio it’s good so let me do one more okay I wish this chair didn’t squeak like farts can you hear it a lot
(02:40) yeah sometimes it doesn’t do it hello and welcome boys and babes it’s the magic hour a place where we navigate through life’s Peaks and valleys with all the vulnerability and shamelessness we can muster with the help of worldclass guests from all walks of life we uncover cover new truths and valuable tools for manifesting our Highest Potential I’m your host Mercedes Terell along with my partner in shine Jade Bryce hi you guys in April I participated in UniFi Global meditation event it was a 12-hour event during
(03:17) quarantine so we all tuned in through Facebook live I turned it on when it first began thinking I would pop in and out but I was immediately hooked each speaker gave so much hope in the middle of so much panic and fear and each guest was so amazing and we’ve booked a few of them for the show the first guest from the event is a Man From The Heart maath Institute yes I can’t wait and the Heart maath experience you’re about to hear about is especially appropriate during these times for maintaining emotional
(03:45) balance mental Clarity and sustaining resilience the content is so uplifting and provides scientifically validated tools for managing stress and anxiety which we need now more than ever so why don’t we get him on so he can tell us about it himself Our Guest today is the heart math Institute research director and is letting the world know why heart coherence is essential in Stress Management and sustainable Behavior change he and his team are passionate about helping individuals organizations and the global Community incorporate the
(04:17) heart’s intelligence into their day-to-day experience of life to develop innovative solutions to challenges increase cooperation and live healthier more fulfilling lives through empowering people to self-regulate their emotions and behaviors to reduce stress increase resilience and unlock their natural intuitive guidance for making more effective choices hello hi hi oh I love the books so oh that was books okay yeah it’s a great backdrop my office um so Mercedes uh do you need him to check his video setting at all yeah
(04:56) hi Roland um if you could just check on where there should be a little video icon video camera icon on the bottom left of your screen and there’s a little arrow next to it to the right if you click on that there should be a video settings option and then in there um there is a HD enable HD is what it says if you could just make sure that’s enabled all right I will enable it for this thank you there we go awesome thank you that better yeah so we’ll just um read a bio and then we’ll just start jumping into the questions if that’s
(05:33) okay yep and what are the okay I sorry doesn’t matter what they are I’ll answer them you know all the answers we promise that’s funny okay this is uh just let me review what’s the show for the audience here um it’s well our show is called the magic hour we most um often rank in the top 50 of the philosophy section but our um audience is really a wide range it’s fairly eclectic Roland but it’s uh you’re probably asking how indepth into the science of this that you want to get with our audience I would keep this on a
(06:10) more basic level um again we have a really eclectic audience so there’s going to be some that can go there but um we’ll try to probe you in in if we want to go deeper on certain subjects that we feel like will resonate with them we’ll we’ll ask you for that God I need a haircut all of us we all do virus hair all my wav yeah my brows are waving at you guys been in 30 years it looks great and how many viewers do you typically have uh so we typically have around um 6,000 but right now because of the virus um people
(06:49) aren’t commuting and they’re home with their kids so our numbers are a little bit down so we might air this a little bit later when the numbers go back up um not too much later but we’re kind of feeling that out okay I would have thought numbers would be people were home you know that’s what I thought yeah but all of our friends that have podcasts are saying the same thing yeah so when you say podcast I think of audio only but is that is this audio or or is it visual as well do yeah we we just
(07:14) opened our YouTube channel we haven’t actually posted much on there yet but um this is going to be recorded for both so it’ll be audio and visual okay all right okay awesome if I draw pictures with my hands I can’t see it you know yeah oh yeah I do that a lot yeah think of it more as audio for sure but we are going to use your face at least for our promo um videos little clips that we’ll take from this but uh we will post eventually we will post the entire episode on YouTube as well yeah and those promo
(07:42) Clips between all of our social accounts it’s about um it’s about 10 million viewers so the promo Clips do get a lot of views so awesome yeah awesome magic hour H magic hour Naj I see for Mercedes and Jade yeah okay uh Mercedes you want me to read the whole intro or just uh start with he and the Heart math yeah I think let’s take the whole intro and then jump into it I need to make shorter bios then our bio is not short that’s what I mean because it’s just too much time taken up with that
(08:14) stuff usually do you want us to just skip it we totally can just or do a short version do whatever you normally do I’ll just read the last sentence okay okay he and the heart maath are helping to activate the heart of humanity we are so excited to welcome Roland mccrady to the magic hour hi rol well good day hi thank you for being here with us yeah I was telling our listeners um before you jumped on that uh I heard you speak at the UniFi Global meditation uh day and it was so amazing so can you um let us
(08:50) know let our listeners know what heart maath does and what their mission is sure um well our kind of easy way to say our mission is a waking the heart of human ity and what we do is not so easy to say in a sentence because we’re involved in so many aspects of of society but basically uh where’re a research facility heartmath Institute is that really has deeply studied how the heart and brain communicate and the physiology of emotion uh we’re basically a psychophysiology laboratory group and from that a deeper understanding and a
(09:24) lot of surprises has come out of that work we’ve developed a set of uh tools and techniques that allow people to uh more quickly and deeply align with the intuitive intelligence of their heart and how to bring that into really improving our capacity to self-regulate words how do we navigate the stresses of life with more grace and ease but in a very practical userfriendly way so these these techniques can be um worded slightly different but the same Essence for everything from kindergarten students to Generals in the military and
(09:55) CEOs and doctors and everything in between it’s really had we shift our uh inner physiology into what we call a coherent state where everything’s more harmoniously working together which maximizes our mental functions so better decision making more access to intuition and then by doing that uh there’s over 400 independent studies Now using our methods and all kinds of things like better health outcomes lower blood pressure better hormonal balance uh improvements in heart failure lowered blood pressure but also uh in helping
(10:28) students perform better at school School academic performance but also especially in in the mental emotional area so more social um Harmony um not just kids but kids and high school students and but adults in whatever context uh work together more harmoniously as teams and groups so more collaboration uh emerges from us as well we even work with the Navy Seals you know in terms of creating more coherence within uh the groups and teams there so that’s why I say it’s kind of hard to pin down to one thing
(11:00) because we education healthare General stress reduction context yeah hopefully that gives you a bit of a not too long-winded answer to your question oh it’s perfect um what is heart rhythm and how does it affect us all right so what is heart rhythm so I’m gonna I’m GNA dial that one back and ask another question before that which you’d probably ask me anyway which is what is heart rate durability okay yes uh because without heart rate varability we don’t have a heart rhythm so in a healthy person well let
(11:34) me start with this uh so most people know what heart rate is I think knows that right but it’s just simply how many times did the heart beat in one minute that’s why we call it beats per minute that’s why you can feel your pulse and time it and get your basic heart rate however in a healthy person somebody especially it’s even a measure of our resilience and our Aging in a way but our heart rate changes with each and every heartbeat so that’s what’s called heart rate variability so to measure that is a
(12:08) lot harder if you will or you have to be a lot more precise than heart rate so you have to very accurately measure of a time interval between each and every consecutive heartbeat when you do that it’s in time right in milliseconds uh you find that there’s variation that’s always changing and that’s what’s when we make measure at that level that’s what’s called heart rate durability now so we can you know this is where graphs are worth a thousand words so you can see the heartbeats plotting and you measure of a time and
(12:40) you you plot a graph on top of that that shows how these inner beat intervals as we call them or this heart rate ababil is changing and what you see is that there are that’s where the Rhythm comes from and there’s different amplitudes of Rhythm in other words the more variability we have have uh the the more beatto be changes and a young person it’s most people are surprised I want to say young person somebody like in their 30s right um the that that just natural setting still of variability yeah can be you know 30
(13:14) beats per minute up and down just naturally changing now as we get older almost in a linear relationship the amount of that variability decreases so it’s it’s a one of the very best measures we have of Aging is variability now if the time between each pair of heartbeats was the same right when you you made that plot it would be a flat line there would be no varability and there would be no heart rhythm so it’s this beatto beat change in heart rate that actually creates what we all tend to think of as
(13:47) a heart the heart rhythm does that make does that make answer your question so we with when it comes to heart rate varability clinically speaking it’s very a very powerful tool for uh not only measuring like our aging process or are we aging at the normal rate that we would expect from normal healthy people but is is our the amount of the variability we have lower than it should be for our age and so the Rhythm Jade was asking about the Rhythm and how it affects us of our heart so right is the r the rhythm is
(14:21) determined by the heart rate variability right it’s produced by it without variability there is no heart rhythm is basically what I’m saying so what kind of Rhythm or what kind of heart variability are we looking for as a person let’s call it for Jad and I in our 30s what is ideal there that’s what I was just getting ready to answer okay okay the well we we would measure how much variation there is and the easiest way to think of it is if you can look at a a waveform of the variability in your
(14:48) 30s you would expect about 20 to 30 beats per minute of variation going on okay and now if it’s lower than it should be for your age that’s a huge huge risk factor that says oh something’s wrong okay uh in fact lower lower varability will drop out like that lower than it should be for your natural age decline several years before symptoms so lowered amount of varability there’s two answers to your question so I’m just gonna be brief here but if we have a lower amount of it for our age that has been Associated and predictive
(15:23) of almost every major disease that you can think oh wow it could be up to years predicting up to several years before you actually have symptoms so it’s a great early warning so I’m talking about sudden death uh cancer metabolic syndrome uh diabetes I mean major things that HRV is associated with okay so that’s kind of the clinical medical tool we would use for risk assessment now a deeper answer to I think the question you’re asking me is when we look at um not only the how much but at a little
(15:55) bit deeper level this is really more directly to your Rhythm question if we look at actually this is where again graphs are worth of thousand words here if we look at the Rhythm it actually has a a pattern to it independent of how much right so you could be an old fart like me and and uh compared to you guys anyway and I would have probably about half the amount of variability that you guys would you know you youngsters but independent of that we could both have the same or similar patterns okay now here’s where uh it
(16:30) gets I won’t I don’t want to go too much into the science here but the the pattern of the variability literally is reflecting many things about what’s going on inside of our body so when we’re feeling something like an emotion like anxiety or frustration or impatience feeling overwhelmed not that you guys ever have any of those feelings uh what happens what you see is the the pattern of the Rhythm becomes what we call incoherent or very chaotic looking now what that is telling us quite literally as a measure of is that
(17:05) the activity the communication between the heart and brain and what’s going on in our nervous system is out of sync it’s you know you heard people talk about God my nervous my nerves feel frazzled yeah or I just feel out of SN we well we use those words because we intuitively know that actually is literally what’s happening so the different systems within the body are are not working together harmoniously so the heart’s pretty unique in that it’s connected to so many other systems in the body that input to
(17:38) reflect this in our heart rhythms now on the other hand if you’re feeling something like you walk out the door in the morning and you go God what a beautiful day right you know the sun shining and all that I mean it’s just those feelings we have art Rhythm most likely shifts into a very different pattern that we call coherence and it’s a very kind of Smooth Up and down kind of Rolling Hills sine wave like looking and what exactly is coherence okay so that’s that’s what we call a coherent Rhythm okay so what is
(18:10) coherence well at a high level um I mean if you look it up in the dictionary uh the first definition almost everywhere is relative to the quality of somebody’s speech writing right so we’re having a conversation now so hopefully I’m putting my words together in s structures that convey a meaning a coherent meaning that above and beyond all little individual words we understand you understand that it conveys a coherent complete meaning concept now of course if I’d have had you know too much to drink last night or
(18:49) you know it’s kind of early in the morning but anyway and I’m uttering nonsense what would you say you’re incoherent incoherent that’s the most kind of General Mo meaning but we also use that term in physics but it’s really similar in a way so in science and physics coherence is a broad term that is used to describe complex systems that have lots of parts that have to work together like us we’re really complex systems right um so that means it’s a measure of all the subp parts how well are they communicating
(19:25) with each other and are they working together harmoniously and are those those parts creating a function that’s above and beyond the individual parts so it has to do with the wholeness the order and and Harmony within a complex system so where all the subp parts give rise to something greater than their individual parts and then the other thing it always implies is we’re talking about a coherent system is Energy Efficiency so does that make sense it all makes compl complete sense so I’m I’m just wondering
(20:03) and having a coherency to your heart essentially is what we’re talking about here right this is what allows us to well I’m just trying to say is it backwards to say that this is what allows us Stress Management and sustainable Behavior change or vice versa like what do we have to figure well it’s both okay so it’s we’re a complex system so let me see if I can say this in a simpler way when we’re feeling those emotions what we call stress you know if we say okay what’s under the hood of stress what’s that
(20:36) really mean it’s always an emotion you’re stressing me out but what are we really saying you’re frustrating me you’re not doing what I want and that’s causing me frustration right or I’m feeling overwhelmed or I’m feeling like there’s not enough time you know that’s that’s why how we defying time pressure the feeling of not having enough time yeah so it’s always in an emotion or that you know those legal ones like I’m in traffic and there’s the traffic jam right so there comes the
(21:05) impatience see so hang on hang on go let me just finish here so what I’m saying is those types of feelings are literally that are experiencing our brain are driving our different parts of our system into incoherence inefficiency and we see that reflected in the heart rhythms as these incoherent patterns so that’s literally meaning we’re we actually say sometimes God my brain was scrambled ever have that well we literally are right because that a physiological level whereas other emotions that we tend to we call regenerative emotions
(21:40) reflect in the physiology in more coherence the sub the immune system hormonal system uh all of these systems nervous system are working together more harmoniously which is reflected in the heart in a coherent Rhythm but it’s especially the communication between the heart and brain so we that’s why they say stress is the number one kill yeah yeah but over time if we’re stressed a lot feeling frustrated angry impatient anxious that’s driving our system into inefficient States we’re having to use more
(22:13) energy to get the same amount of stuff done and over time that just keeps depleting and wear and tear on the system so then that pops out whatever yeah I guess I’m uh so our heart is always trying to bring us back to this homeostasis of the coherent state is that well to be believed yeah so okay so now we need to get so the heart and brain okay are are wired together I’m going to use that term here through nerves more intensely or more closely coupled than any other systems in the body now this might surprise you but the
(22:50) heart actually sends more information to the brain through our nervous system than the brain sends to the heart wow that’s why you call it the intelligent heart heart right not no but it’s part it’s part but um so this goes and this is not new I mean this is not you mean that may sound like some new discovery God the heart sends more to the brain this actually been known since the late 1800s this is not a new discovery fact the father who’s considered the father of psychology knew this and was a lot of
(23:22) that was based on that and that’s uh William James was his name and that was up until the you know 1920s and 30s when we started learning more the Paradigm shifted it’s all about the brain and a lot of what came before that was forgotten but was actually right because we got Eng glamored but anyway so I don’t want to get too far into that but the the signals that the or I’ll call it the quality which is reflected in the pattern of the neural activity that the heart sends to the brain literally goes
(23:52) to every major brain Center so the activity of the heart the quality of those signals this is going back to the 70s now was discovered to have profound affections on brain function and two terms were introduced way back then long before I got involved right um still in high school at that time uh that’s called cortical inhibition in other words the cortex the top of our brain that we get paid to go to work for right is inhibited we can’t think clearly we can’t make good decisions or the other term was called cortical
(24:27) facilitation so it’s guess what as it turns out a coherent rhythm is one that facilitates brain function showing that we’re all in sync and an incoherent rhythm is the one they didn’t know this back then but we know now that is associated with cortical Innovation okay let me let let me give it a pract I’ll ask you guys a question here okay you up for an honesty test sure sure always all right excuse me first question part two parts have you ever been in a situation where you were talking with maybe your boyfriend
(24:58) friends or somebody that you know close to you and they said or did something that just upset you yeah and then you that but you blurt something out that a minute later or so you’re saying to yourself oh my God I can’t believe I just said that or did we triggered into some old you got triggered and then comes out the thing you may not have even really meant yeah that creates a bunch more stress and all that here’s the honesty question have you done it more than once with the same person around the very same issue yes all right
(25:34) right I mean it’s kind of humoral we’ve all done that right that’s cortical inhibition okay so you see we get we get angry or upset C corex is inhibited now we’re responding from our our emotional centers unmanaged emotional centers um on the other hand we can be in a so what we’ve what our techniques teach people how to do is to recognize when those triggers are starting to rise up you know we feel we feel them we but we’re so automated right but we can learn how to pause do a rapid inner pause in that
(26:09) moment shift to coherence now we’ve completely changed the Dynamics between the heart and brain where the heart’s s in a coherent Rhythm which creates brain synchronization opens up our our frontal cortex it’s not the exact term but so now we have more options available we and what one of my mentors Carl pram very famous neuroscientist uh so he he’s the guy who actually coined the term executive functions for the frontal part of our brain and what he basically says that that part of our brain really gives
(26:39) us well it’s not just him but is what we call foresight the the ability to understand how our actions now affect the future right so that’s what because we’re thinking we’re thinking from this this more responsive State versus reactive State well yeah well in other words the part of of our brain is what I’m saying is the fernal cortex one of its main functions is foresight yeah right so foresight gives us a lot of really important capacities that as humans that a lot of our beloved you know uh pets don’t have and animal
(27:12) friends they have great memory of the past so what’s foresight well it’s not only understanding how our actions and behaviors now affect the future but planning goal setting appreciating that we’ve accomplished a goal right abstract thinking these are all parts of the frontal cortex and these executive functions that result in foresight so that’s what gets taken offline when we’re in that inhibited state I’m curious with this type of work that you’ve been involved in for so many years if that goes further for you if
(27:48) that part of the foresight if that ever becomes a place where our heart center is or becomes our Oracle in some sense of being able to kind of predict the future absolutely and that now we we cross into another this is really basic brain phys heart brain physiology I’ve been talking about we’ve also done a number of experiments and let me before I go there one of the the most common things that over the years we we hear from well many actually probably millions of people now that have learned and practice heart math but the one of
(28:20) the more common things we hear is God my intuition it’s like radically different noticeably and then part two is and synchronicities right because if we’re following our tuition that’s what allows for synchronicities right so that this is I’m going back a number of years so we started doing some very rigorous laboratory based studies on intuition beautiful and long story short I mean many studies and even metaanalysis is now in this work so this is very scientific what I’m what I’m saying
(28:51) without going into that language basically what we’ve found is that in these laboratory experiments that we can kind of set up control very rigorously is that we were able to trace the flow of intuitive information and like we so we set up these things where future event going to happen it’s impossible to know what it is but that the heart is the first system to shift and give you a a pre- stimulus signal the heart sends a measurably different neural signal to the brain you get a brain response all before the future thing happens then
(29:28) once that happens you get a a change to the the descending nerves I’ll call them to the body so the gut feeling the hair on the back of the neck all before the future event and what we’ve also shown in those experiments if we’re in a CO heart coherent State before these experiments that channel that information Channel between the heart and brain is significantly more opened up and you get much more of this inner intuitive response the clarity yeah so when I’m really seing here is well in a kind of a simple way is that what the
(30:03) the philosophers and uh most of the religions great religions on the planet have been saying all along right because that the most common denominator by the way across all the religions whether that’s Christianity Judaism uh Islam is that the heart Buddhism way is into this um Sufism is that the heart is that doorway to our larger self heart’s been associated with love and wisdom for ages forever right well what this research is basically showing is they’ve been right all along we’re just able to it scientifically now so
(30:37) you asked Jade about heart intelligence so this is more what I’m talking about now so when we talk about heart intelligence where I basically just suggesting here well I’m actually saying that more than a suggestion but go keep my sign on that the the heart is really is especially what we call the energetic heart that doorway if you will or that bridge to our whatever you want to call it you know different cultures have different words you know here in the US people tend to call it their Spirit or their soul or their higher
(31:08) self um here at heartmath we just call it our larger self to take any religious because I don’t mean this in a in a religious context I mean this in a literal scientific context that we really do have a larger self that’s operating in another frequency domain if you will that is kind of outside of time and space which is what these experiments also show that and that the heart is that main bridge to that so if we learn to be more coherent that is like tuning an interner radio dial so we’re tuning
(31:42) more to our larger self and that’s so that really heart intelligence is our our best friend it’s our inner GPS right I mean who do you talk to when you’re talking to yourself that deeper Part of Yourself who are you talking to anyway yeah Center yeah well well with practice you can it becomes clear and clear for people the difference between the voice of the mind and that deeper voice of the heart right how do you what is the practice that you recommend or use maybe yourself to get tuned in or attuned to your heart there’s a whole
(32:15) set of heartmath techniques that I for me and a lot of the I think heartmath trainers what happens when you use these techniques is that kind of becomes automatic it’s a way of life but there’s techniques like the simplest one is called heart Focus breathing it’s where you just put your focus you literally focus in the center of your chest not you’re not trying to go inside and focus on the you know the physical heart but in the that Center and you breathe through that area pretend you’re
(32:40) breathing through the the chest and you breathe uh ideally at a rhythm about five seconds in five seconds out whatever rhythm is comfortable and that’s there’s a reason for those two steps um where we focus attention we can cause changes in the body we know that there’s a whole industry founded on that called the biof feedback industry you know where you you learn and you focus attention we can cause changes in this case we’re wanting to shift the rhythm of the heart coherent so we’re sending
(33:08) that signal to the brain but breathing at that Rhythm that Al that happens to be the resonant frequency of the communication system between the heart and brain we actually have a literal resonant frequency so when we’re feeling good like appreciation and compassion and kindness those that is what takes us into our natural resonant frequency which is coherence does that make sense yeah totally makes sense and it’s something that’s really hitting home for me currently because I’m been instructed
(33:42) and reinstructed and told over and over that my that I’m live too much in my brain essentially and need to be get more heart centered and so um just figuring out how to tap into that space and sit with myself and not just because can sit with my thoughts I can hear all my thoughts and do that piece but to really get focused on uh you know how is my heart speaking to me essentially yeah yeah so it’s learning the to and practicing these coherence practices it in essence help open that you know like tune that in a radio dial
(34:16) and open that channel so that the voice of the heart be it becomes more distinguishable you know a lot of people talk about the still Small Voice Within or the well it’s really not so with a little bit of practice you what you find out is it’s not so still or so full it’s just at the Roar of our mind and emotions just so loud right um yeah that under the radar but uh so there’s many one a technique just for kind of designed for accessing the heart’s intuition is called Freeze Frame uhuh but there’s many techniques like inner
(34:52) ease and um attitude breathing and these are all kind of core techniques that really help do that and it’s really about using these kind of techniques throughout the day so we’re um you know one is a heart called a heart lock in is more of a heart meditation but the majority of our techniques about how do we maintain our Co shift into and maintain coherence which equals our inner composure emotional stability yeah and impr and improve mental function as we navigate through day-to-day life right because I
(35:27) mean I I like traffic examples right there we are driving you know on our way to wherever the store the haircut appointment whatever right the traffic lights are all green right as my wife likes to say the parking Angel’s out you know there’s the spot hey it’s easy to kind of be you know going with the flow but what happens when the traffic when we hit the traffic down and we’re late yeah we’re pissed right so cha we’re pissed and impatient well what happens even a couple of minutes of those feelings even if
(35:59) they’re not gagged out sets in motion at least 1,400 biochemical changes in our body that deplete our energy suppress the immune system right we’ve actually done studies on that just getting frustrated for a couple of minutes suppresses immunity for six hours wow so this is when we’re moving into that fighter flight mode that angry mode yeah it mean it didn’t have to be you’re in a car you’re not necessarily fighter you know what fighter white you’re just sitting there frustrated or
(36:31) impatient right um so that that’s not going to make the traffic move any faster yeah so a heart intelligent perspective might be able wait a minute let’s do some heart Focus breathing let’s get coherent let’s add energy to our system rather than depleting it right let’s create a different set of hormonal patterns that and the Heart Focus breathing is just breathing as if it’s coming from the heart 5 seconds in 5 seconds out yeah or whatever’s comfortable but around you can start with that Rhythm but the whole
(37:01) point I don’t I don’t want people to be sitting there counting on that keeps you stuck in the head but you know so it takes a little practice to where that Rhythm becomes familiar then you don’t not sitting there thinking about counting yeah right I really like that idea my mom was just telling me last night that our family doctor said uh our family our entire family uh strugg suffers from irritability so interesting invesment um I just read something actually on that J we’ll talk about after the show
(37:35) because I’m sure we’ll have some guest on about that type of universal enmeshment of a feeling over a whole family but I was going to say that this emotional intelligence or or the heart intelligence is really a piece of the emotional intelligence theory idea I would say it is way way broader than emotional intelligence um I mean emot I’m glad that the emotional intelligence books came out and all but if you really look under the hood of what we call emotional intelligence it was neat marketing all
(38:06) it’s saying that a emotionally intelligent person is somebody who’s emotionally aware and well self-regulated right that’s emotional intelligence right but what gives us the power to actually regulate the emotions it’s not the mind no we yeah I’d call it the inner Watcher or whatever you want to call okay so now you’re talking about the heart right so heart or the soul however yeah right so heart intelligence isn’t just I mean it part of heart intelligence is the that well first of all the inner intelligence
(38:36) out of our own self care to finally bring the mind and emotions into alignment and management with that deeper part of ourselves but it has the power to do that so then when sitting there and you’re talking about this breathing technique for instance it’s about essentially stealing yourself enough to witness the witness to witness inter Watcher or to listen to hear yeah so heart focused breathing is just the first step I mean breathing techniques have been around for thousands of years if that were the answer to everything
(39:11) right we wouldn’t have the world we do right so breathing uh I you can call it Grandma’s wisdom in a way I mean because breathing is something we have conscious control of I can choose to breathe at a slower deeper Rhythm or I mean but most of our breathing throughout the day is unconscious you know and we start feeling stressed what do we do we breathe faster and shallower right what not not necessarily aware of it but that’s what’s going on when we’re feeling relaxed and good we tend to
(39:39) breathe deeper and slower naturally even though we may not be consciously aware of that so bringing more Consciousness in is something we can intervene with self choose to breathe slower and deeper in those moments but what that does the re the reason breathing techniques work there’s a lot of people don’t understand this is the god I don’t want to go too much into the physiology well let me me go a little bit here so there are neurons in the lungs that when they we breathe that that are sensitive to stretch okay so
(40:09) they increase their firing rate and they there’s nerves that go up to the the brain stem we’ll call it the lower brain that is where the cardiovascular and uh breathing systems all tie into right so they basically inhibit or slow down the flow of what we call parasympathetic or vagal activity to the heart so heart rate increases we breathe out that’s released that activity increases again so heart rate decreases so in other words our breathing rhythm is always one of the factors modulating the heart
(40:42) rhythm one of many but an important one so whatever our breathing rhythm is is modulating heart rhythm so when we when we choose heart focused breathing or or take a few deep breaths like Grandma says after you fall down and skin or something right you pick your F you make sure blood’s not squirting out yeah right breathe honey is what grandma says right because we instinctively know that until we calm down emotionally we’re not going to be able to hear anything or you know and the Pain’s going to be worse
(41:13) while we’re all deal with all the drama and you know all that going on so the reason that that works though is when we take those breaths we are literally modulating the the rhythm of the heart into a more coherent pattern now that’s what’s being sent up to all those brain centers including the amydala which is our emotional you know familiar not familiar center right and that’s so that calms takes some of the intensity out of the that emotion that reaction but so what what we’ve done is we’ve lowered
(41:44) let’s say it’s in a stress context or stress reaction we’ve lowered the intensity of it but it’s still the same emotion just running at a lower level you follow I’m when I’m yeah so the next the more advanced step then is to say okay well I’m feeling not that you know frustration or this is a bad thing that’s why we just call them depleting because that’s the effect they literally have physiologically right but now we can shift that into a regenerative emotion right so we have a lot more
(42:19) power to choose our emotional diet ever imagine or believe like that emotional diet yeah we’ve just never been taught how to do it right but it takes it’s not that hard but it takes practice I mean yes it is but no but no it’s not but we have to want to do it you know and take the put some energy out to learn how to do it but then it becomes our new what we call baseline or normal and that’s what elevates Consciousness right and I know heart Mass talks about you know the three categories personal social and
(42:54) Global um can you talk to us about how those are all interconnected through the global field yeah so everything we’ve been talking about so far is more personal coherence yeah and self-regulation well I’m gonna um not sure how much time we have here but I’ll go to the social a little bit I won’t go into a lot of the science but whenever the heart beats well whenever you put electrodes across the body we want to measure your electroc cardiogram right you put the two electrodes across or we want to measure your brain ways you
(43:23) stick some electrodes on your head what’s being measured is electricity that’s why it’s called the electrocardiogram so we are literally measuring the flow of current being generated in this case by the beating heart which is by far the largest source of rhythmic electrical activity in the body Big Time bigger than anything else so whenever you have a flow of electrical current physics 101 you create a magnetic field right that’s electrod don’t see that that’s measured with a different
(43:58) device called a magnetometer and so the the field generated by the Beating Heart the current flows are strong enough you create a magnetic field that and mag electric and magnetic fields are quite different by the way and one of the properties of magnetic fields is they easily penetrate things that’s why your cell phone will work inside I before I was a psychophysiologist I I used to work for Motorola as a communication engineer oh something I know a little bit about yeah right so we often use magnetic electromagnetic fields to carry
(44:29) information that’s how your cell phone talks to the cell tower right we create a carrier wave as it’s called and then you that carries the information your voice picture your text whatever turns out the heart’s field magnetic field is the same way it’s carrying information probably about many things we don’t fully understand yet but for sure about our emotional state we can actually measure that so we can put a device out here Fe number of feet from the body and measure the heart magnetic field and
(44:59) decode that in seeing that it’s carrying patterns that reflect our emotional state now you can measure a brain wave with that same instrument about an inch away feet inch right right so clearly the heart is the big player energetically yeah right so when we talk this is gets into social coherence right because and we’ve done a number of experiments now in our own lab but others independently as well have shown that we’re when we’re in a heart Co heart rhythm coherent State the information in our magnetic field being
(45:33) carried by it is also more structured and coherent that’s why when we’re in studio for these interviews we have we feel really um successful with the interview and really connected to the other person in front of us because we’re in their electromagnetic space well maybe somebody comes in and they’re kind of upset and just got bad news that’s happened right so the information being carried isn’t just always positive yeah right but when we’re in a heart coherent State yes it is and that experiment’s been now that
(46:08) even I mean literally done that show that even if another person doesn’t know what’s going on they’re in our coherent field environment it has a lifting uplifting effect on them measurably that’s amazing so I mean our you think of this as your personal field environment right it’s literal it’s measurable but we all everybody knows this intuitively or most people do right I mean but a lot of people don’t realize I think that um where their heart is at it like you’re saying it it goes out of our body
(46:40) and it’s those around us like especially children um they are affected by our heart coherence yeah yeah certainly children but not not just what I’m really saying here and this it’s not just a hypothesis we’ve proven this right yeah that there’s an energetic communication our dance it’s always going on between people when we’re like in local proximity anyway and that this can be measured and that it’s communicating information oftentimes at a subconscious level but it is affecting
(47:13) and biasing our thoughts our perceptions our trust untrust in that person so when we did that Global meditation that I heard you speak at all of our hearts what like using that as an example like what what is that how did that affect the global ah okay so I had to I just wanted to give that Preamble because that’s important to understand kind of connect the dots yeah the social piece is important for sure okay so all right I’ll try and be non non sciencey as I can here so we talked about how we have a magnetic field right yeah
(47:48) measurable so does Earth we all know that right it’s called The Geo there’s multiple Fields but one one I’ll talk about first is called the GE magnetic field that’s what our compasses tune into right the North and South Pole of the Earth right so these so if we tremble back in in in time this back when we were in school and science class did you get to dump iron fence on a glass plate and put a magnet under it no we didn’t you I know that’s too bad well most people did um you can try it sometime or watch a
(48:22) video of it it’s there’s all kinds of yeah I mean I’ve heard you talk about it before so I mean I get the gist of it so you can see these magnetic field lines in that example but Earth’s magnetic field is the same way so you might probably heard me talk about this before then those field lines magnetic field lines literally act like are the guitar strings and you when you pluck them they vibrate so the field lines of Earth are really long so they have a lower frequency vibration just like on our
(48:53) guitar if you change the tension or the length of the string you change its what note pitch key uhuh yeah Earth’s the same way and what’s plucking the field lines of Earth is the solar wind rushing by right and Earth is turning in that so the field lines are vibrating well one of the primary resonant frequencies they all of the resonant frequencies the range of them overlap in the same R rhythms as the heart and autonomic nervous system but one of the primary frequencies is frequency it’s called 0.1
(49:28) Hertz that’s frequency language or a cycle that happens every 10 seconds now remember I suggested breathing in five seconds out 5 Seconds yes that’s a 10c rhythm okay right 0.1 Hertz so when we’re in a heart coherent State the heart rhythm is oscillating at the same frequency as the primary resonant frequency of Earth wow okay wow okay so that’s how we’re very much interconnected to Planet back one more piece of the puzzle back to science class again I’m sorry Mercedes that you were so deprived I
(50:08) know hopefully you got to play with tuning Forks yeah all right so I have some right behind me great so you know that most people have seen examples of this where you tap one fork and the other them if it’s tuned to the same frequency starts to vibrate right that’s showing resonant coupling that when two things vibrate at the same frequency you transfer energy and information between them so with our tuning Forex there air molecules that are mediating that effect but it works exactly the same way with
(50:37) magnetic fields you just don’t need the air molecules right so how do we know that well if surrounding you right now both of you or me here how many cell phone magnetic fields are around us and insane amount go they’re all they’re all invisible here now so if I get my phone out my little prop here how does my phone get the information from those invisible Fields it’s in a specific frequency while we tune it it’s kind of like I referencing our inner knob well here we have a literal kind of inner knob we adjust
(51:17) digitally these days to adjust the receiver to be the same resonant frequency as the one that we want to talk on as soon as we do that boom we we are now transferring all that energy and information from that particular magnetic field frequency into our cell phone and having our conversation what about go ahead so the main point is when we transfer energy and information magnetically when they’re the same frequency so I so what I’m really seeing here I there’s a whole other set of magnetic waves that I haven’t talked
(51:51) about but basically our hearts and brains and another set of magnetic waves are vibrating at the same frequency of birth right basic physics principles we all learned in trade school probably these days is showing us how we can transfer energy and information between our hearts and brains and the Earth’s larger Fields because Earth is our mother it’s almost proof of it I have a question on that sorry Jade I know you might move us off of this though so I wanted before we do move when we talk about you know we hear
(52:24) Elon Musk wanting to populate Mars and things like that when we talk about moving away from earth does that what does that create in you do you have any kind of insight on what that is all about and and yeah how that might fair for us well I I I have some insights um so we one another one of my mentors a guy named France halberg who’s a guy who literally coined the term circadian rhythm oh he just passed away a couple years ago now um he was published many many papers on how the what we live within the Earth’s
(53:07) energetic environment so some of the magnetic fields I’ve been talking about are the energetic environment right and how when those are Disturbed or the different rhythms inms how that affects us and our health and outcomes but in his later years what he was was saying is look we have the biological rhythms we do because we evolved in these Ry of the earth wow we were in sync with the Earth all along you know through Evolution and that’s why we have these rhythms and it’s I didn’t go into this
(53:36) but a bunch of other studies we’ve done and others as well are showing that it’s to our great benefit to be in sync with the Earth with the Earth’s rhythms for a lot of reasons right we call that grounding right well well not necessarily I’m I’m talking about something a little bit different than than I mean like a grounding technique or walking on the earth without shoes which is also good good things I’m talking about something a little bit different here okay um but any anyway so the reason that I’m saying this to help
(54:05) answer your question is Earth does Mars does not have a magnetic field okay in fact we need to really appreciate Earth’s magnetic field because without it Earth would be to turn into Mars very quickly so the magnetic field of Earth is The Shield right that keeps the solar wind from blowing our atmosphere all the water away that’s the only reason we exist well yeah without the magnetic field Life as we at least as we know it would not exist on Earth what about like you you brought up the sorry jay but you
(54:41) understand why I’m sharing that you asked about Mars yeah we’re trying to send people to a place with no field and so some of my other colleagues are totally convinced that we have to have the magnetic field environment for for healthy function in fact one of them is a Massa scientist and who is kind of doing a lot of lab work to more or less prove that for space travel even we have to recreate the natural fields we live in on in the space stations and SP for a long travel outside of the Earth’s field
(55:11) that that will be CR critical for even basic healthy function wow I’m so glad I asked you that question sorry Jade I didn’t mean to cut oh no it’s okay I just I’m I wondering with like you know the EMF waves from Towers all of our Wi-Fi routers you know next to our beds and our our phones in our pockets does that mess with our magnetic field or keep us from being able to be I can’t say that it messes with our magnetic field because that’s produced by biological system beating hearts and
(55:42) neuron thing um you know it’s not a topic that I that I’m I know a little bit about but not one it’s so there’s so many opinions on it that no matter what I would say there I would epet somebody probably it’s okay we upset people all the time I’m here there’s a disclaimer at the end of the show well one let me one thing I will share with you though yes please is that lot a lot of people don’t realize is that the sun itself R generates a very strong relatively speaking uh frequency of 2.8 gigahertz called the
(56:19) f107 or solar radio flux and that affects human activity well big time yeah right but in a good way right it’s a natural 2.8 GHz by the way is the same frequency as Wi-Fi yeah so we live and we’ve evolved and and from the time we were born right now we are living in a radiation field of 2.
(56:48) 8 GS from the Sun okay which we need which is necessary which is necessary we’ve showing studies that when that’s increased in its amplitude it varies with the solar cycles and things we feel better right we have increased varability which is a sign of Better Health uh better sleep better cognitive functions so a lot of these you know uh things uh we live in a sea of anyway naturally that kind of Taco some of the stuff we’re talking about wow um now I’m not saying that Wi-Fi is is different a natural signal that’s modulated in
(57:24) different ways but you know keep all your electronics by your head at night or any of those things but yeah I mean I mean so I’m I’m not afraid of my cell phone right I know keep it in your pocket yeah at the same time if I’m gonna be talking a lot I use a headset yeah no I don’t want to live under a you know Mega 100,000 volt power line right 60 htz but I’m not scared of the electricity that’s running my TV and yeah and I know you also you talked about solar activity you talked about
(57:52) when it’s low that’s when there’s more um is it like maybe homicides or like um well okay that gets into no whole other topic but but uh solar activity and here’s again place where a graph is worth a thousand words so I have to give credit to really who’s considered now the father of What’s called the science of Hilo biology Hilo meaning sun right in this case and his name is Alexander chowski and he was a Russian astrophysicist who got drafted into World War I so long time time ago and so he was keeping one eye on
(58:31) solar activity because that’s what his field of study was right but what it appeared to him means is in the middle of a war is that when there were more solar flares solar activity you know that people down here on Earth just kind of got stupid right I mean there were bloodier battles and you know mistakes and all those things so it got him curious so after the war he did an exhaustive study of human history and went all the way back as far as we had solar cycle data at that time which was 1749 and basically did this amazing what
(59:03) these guys did back before internets and things uh but anyway very rigorous work and made a plot that showed the number of major human events that happened every year from 1749 up to 1926 when he published this word so lots of cycles and so you see this kind of sine wavy looking thing with variations and then he plotted the solar cycle right by it and they’re almost exact overlays it’s shocking and by solar cycle you mean what exactly okay I’m gonna so a solar cycle is about a 10 and a half to 11 year cycle okay okay and it
(59:42) basically they used to count it in the old days the number of sunspots a sunspot is associated with a solar flare or chal mass ejection as we call them now and basically that’s shooting out lots of high energy particles and plasma the streams into the from the Sun um but the sun is always doing that it’s always radiating these high energy particles that’s what creates the solar wind that’s traveling you know by us about on a quiet day about a million miles per hour so so basically the sun has a a cycle of more
(1:00:15) and more of these solar flare events that’s just 10 and a half to 11 year cycle so it gets at its peak and then quiets down to its minimum and so on so at the peaks of these then a later re Archer came along uh when they had data from much farther back than through ice cores and things like that of the solar cycles and did another study of human history and found that the start of Wars through all of recorded history start within a 80% of them start in a very narrow area around the solar cycle Peaks when there’s the most energy so at a
(1:00:54) peak of a solar cycle there’s more energy being radiated by the sun in uh things that we don’t see like X-rays and UltraViolet and solar radio flux that I was talking so he basically uh chowski created what he called an index of mass human excitability this is minding now here’s but so that may sound like it’s bad and the sun’s out to get us no no no so other research is shown during exactly those same time periods the Peaks is the greatest periods of human flourishing so the way I would suggest
(1:01:34) you think of it the summer not the Bountiful time the fruitful time yeah and these again they 10 year 10 near Cycles right 10 Cycles but when that those Peaks there’s more literally more majorly more energy being radiated that the Earth lives within the the sun’s magnetic field right so that that energy is is kind of Ste down into the Earth’s energetic systems and we live within that so it down into us so we have more energy so if you’re unself regulated and not very aware and you’re a politician you go start
(1:02:15) wars right or if you’re more self-regulated and aware you know kind of following your heart’s intuitive guidance you invent new things you develop collaborations you flourish M yeah that to me correlates directly to uh like shamanic wisdom that speaks about the cycles of the earth and when I’m talking about summer whether it’s a 10e cycle of the solar flare which would be essentially a global summer um good way of putting it yeah yeah that this this correlation of summertime because we think about summer if you study the
(1:02:49) Greek gods or anything like that the summer goddess is always the one that brings the most Bountiful um you know fruit full trees and bringing Forest yeah everything is uh ready to be embodied or flourishing at that time so yeah that’s really it’s pretty cool that we’re all just dealing with these cycles and we’re we’re so interconnected within them so so the solar cycle is kind of a longer Rhythm 10 years but then we’ve got lunar rhythms weather you know the annual rhythms like you’re saying summer
(1:03:18) spring winter so on these are all cycles that all have effect yeah is there something to the retrogrades in the midst of all of this too good I don’t know okay okay seems like it sometimes yeah it must be or a placebo um so we’re coming to the end of the show I know we’re we’re running out of time with you but um we have a magic mob question Becky asks how can this be applied to what’s going on today with the Corona virus oh it’s so many ways in fact we’ve been doing a series of of shows on awake
(1:03:49) TV actually around this called navigating with the heart um conversation these challenging times you know so if we’re talking about the these times of the Corona virus uh I mean there’s two two things like comments I’d like to make relative to that I mean from one perspective what we see on the news there’s probably more love Compassion Care going on than maybe ever before right and all the outpouring for the for the Frontline workers not just but all I mean you think of all the delivery drivers and all the people that
(1:04:21) are in law enforcement First Responders that are that are doing their thing here and a lot I’m dying from from doing this U but at the same time it’s probably well not probably an amplified fear going oh yeah as well so that’s what we’re one of my calls to action here is to consider what we’re feeding the field yes personal field and our Global field so during these times in fact the the fear virus can even outweigh the harm of the actual physical virus yeah ways so we’re doing a lot of
(1:04:55) different not just meditations which is great but actually in the trenches how do we help people use these self-regulation techniques to manage that fear virus because all that does if it’s unmanaged now we so we talk and trying to help people understand the difference between managed concern right because it’s we don’t want to be stupid yeah yes we need to be managed concerned and do you know protect ourselves and do the right things but if that crosses over into fear that’s the exact kind of emotions
(1:05:25) that take our nervous system into into um incoherence and and the study I mentioned earlier in the show I said you know when we’re um just a short period of being frustrated or in a depleted emotion suppresses immunity for six hours so if we’ve got constant fear running right we watch the news at one time a day and there it goes and then again right all what we’re doing is suppressing our our own first line of defense against the virus in immunity yeah and it’s not a very fun way to live you know yeah so
(1:06:01) anyway so so feeding the field yeah I love that you talk about the the shift and LIF shift and lift techniques too when it comes to feeding the field yeah exactly so there’s a number of techniques a lot of them we you know in fact we’re giving a lot of away things these days do this and there’s uh one of our core courses that you know we was supposed to be our income for the year we’re giving away yeah I saw that heart called the heart math experience we go into a lot of these key techniques uh
(1:06:27) it’s better to learn them there than me trying to you know explain round it off way that’s free right now and you can go to heartmath.org um so we’re giving away a program for kids we’ve given over 100,000 of them away now already through this virus period uh for younger children for parents to do at home but then for adults is it’s called The heartmath Experience so I think it’s heartmath.
(1:06:51) org hme for heartmath experience um but anyway if you get to our website you can heartmath.org you can find those free programs beautiful so there’s a few short questions we like to ask everyone who comes on the show and the first one is if you could hug your younger self right now what would you say uh it’s going to be all right follow your heart how old are you and you needed to hear that well I actually was have my first childhood memory is very similar to that oh yeah yeah as a whole other story but uh yeah had a download from my
(1:07:27) larger self sitting in a little Methodist Church but anyway yeah oh beautiful beautiful if you could have the whole world read one book which would it be I’m biased here a bit it would be heart intelligence heart intelligence okay I haven’t heard of that one that’s exciting if you could whisper one phrase to everyone on the planet what would it be follow your heart and take it seriously have the courage to follow it before we let you go where can people find you and heart math online is there an is there an app or do they do they
(1:08:07) would do they just go to theor well there are several apps yes um but heartmath.org would be the main place and there’s a new app it’s called the global coherence app okay so we have a technology that allows us to measure our heart rhythm and train ourselves into coherence or see how coherent or non-coherent we are yeah practice the techniques to shift into coherence so that we know what that feels like and can do it you know when we’re out in the world and the global coherence app allows us to measure the literal
(1:08:36) coherence of groups it could be your family it could be you know a work group or the Global Group as we call it so we’re organizing regular events to where we all get coherent together and measure the global community and how much coherent heart energy we’re feeding into the global field oh so if anyone wants to get involved in that um Global so you just go to whatever you know the either Google play or the the Apple Store and search for Global coherence app awesome and you don’t have to have a pul sensor to to use it to be it’s got a
(1:09:09) map showing where people are around the world it’s Prett cool that’s so cool if you want to really get involved at a deeper level then you can get one of our our sensors and uh measure your HRV so you can do that there apps doing that at the personal level but the global coherence app does it both for your personal and the Global Group and group you want to set up can people with like an eyewatch or you know any of these um technologies that do heart rate measuring is that does that help uh no uh not yet we wish did uhuh so as I
(1:09:40) mentioned measuring HRV is a lot more involved heart rate and so far we’ve tested many many things um many like rist devices and things yeah not yet love we would love if they yeah’ be awesome but we’re not there yet so basically Paul sensor Clips on your ear low and it’s a very high okay uh device for really accurately measuring uh HRV perfect awesome thank you so much yes thank you we learned so much and I hope our listeners did too so thank you so much for being with us and for figuring out how to take all of your very
(1:10:16) extensive knowledge both Jade and I have been following you for a while and listening to your stuff for a while so we know you have the extreme depths of scientific knowledge in your head and so thank thank you for trying to transmute it to our more basic level today appreciate that thank you being well you guys have a great rest of your day you too and remember to pause and ask yourself what am I feeding the field thank you thanks RK you bye bye bye so Rolan we will um send you all the promos of course and let you know
(1:10:49) whenever this is going to air and any information you might need on your end for that um we will are you guys in touch with Claire yeah okay she because she’s your yeah yeah yeah I could promo something my life depended on yeah yeah okay awesome thank you so much all right take care guys okay we’ll talk to soon bye bye bye all right I love that um what am I feeding the field in the shift and left technique but um the solar activity is really mindblowing I know it’s nothing I I wish people could see the graph so you
(1:11:31) could always look him up and see what he’s talking about there because the way that they overly and it it’s like almost an identical match um he was talking about there with these big times where humans act out and flourish happen to be right during the solar flares so it’s very interesting stuff yeah and I love the his magic trick um you know the breath from the heart but yeah what’s your magic today oh so mine is um it’s a visualization around the heart um so when I’m tuning into my chakras and
(1:12:05) trying to align them and um you know make sure they’re all how I want them when I get to my heart um I do a visualization that I wanted to share as a magic trick that everyone else can do so basically um and this is like you could see this as Intuition or imagination but either way it’s going to be beneficial um because you’re just tuning in you know so what I do is I um when I imagine my heart I just kind of like taken um I don’t know if inventory would be the right word but I just kind of like check it out check out its
(1:12:40) condition I see how it’s feeling and you know that whatever you see on your right side of the heart represents your masculine and then your left side represents your feminine so that’s something to pay attention to as well is like when you look at your heart or you tune in and see how you’re feeling um pay attention to the sides and how different they are but what I do is I visualize my heart and then I imagine pouring like warm water over my heart and just like cleansing off anything that doesn’t feel right and I kind of
(1:13:09) give it like a loving little you know tender massage and I just like spend time with my heart and um sometimes like I’ll I’ll see like a hard shell on part of it or sometimes I’ll see like you know know just like some sort of visualization that’s like representing the condition of it and I just you know with the warm water and with the massage I just kind of like remove that from my heart and just kind of visualize it in the condition that I want it to be in so it sounds kind of like you know
(1:13:42) childlike in a way but it works for me and it um it just in a way I feel like it it helps me to just sit still and consider what condition my heart is in as as well so yeah I like that I don’t think it sounds childlike at all I think it’s just a a a moment of silence with yourself and that’s so important you know and checking in checking in it’s interesting what you might see when you do that when you really tune in you’ll be surprised sometimes how you’re like oh I do feel that way you know yeah or what comes up
(1:14:17) yeah my magic trick super similar so according to shamanic healers your heart is the center of your m multidimensional being and can act as your medium for connecting with the higher Angelic Realms and when we’re able to tune into our heart center it can become our own personal Oracle which we were talking about earlier um our own personal Oracle on our personal path towards Spiritual Awakening so this magic trick is about using our heart center as a yes or no Oracle to receive yes or no guidance whenever you need it so first firstly
(1:14:56) when you know we kind of talked about this with Roland a bit but when we talk about tuning into your heart we’re talking about your heart center your heart chakra so it’s not so much your physical heart as as it is your energetic heart right so what we want to do is we want to ground ourselves In This Moment by sitting quietly and taking a few deep breaths you can use the uh what what does Roland call his breath practice the the heart what is it heart focused breathing remember that the heart Focus breathing um but just take a few deep
(1:15:34) breaths and then put your left hand since our left hand is our receiving hand over our heart which will help us to listen and attune to our heart center and then we ask a yes or no question and we listen for response and the response might come as a feeling of contraction or expansion since what we’re doing here is we’re tuning into the energetic quality of our hearts so when we ask an obvious no question like like should I order pizza for dinner tonight you might feel an energetic decrease in your heart
(1:16:07) center and adversely when you ask a question where the answer is yes like is taking a walk in nature and in the sunshine a good idea today you’ll feel a warmth and expansion in response so this does take some practice um you know this is all really related to what Roland was talking about today so I love that it it’s kind of just a reiteration of some of the tips he gave us but it does take some practice and some true openness but I think when we can be willing to sit with our hearts and tune in like this
(1:16:38) often and when we can trust ourselves and our our heart centers enough to have this um ability to be our own Oracle we gain a powerful insight and a tool for divination and honing our intuition so I invite you to try it that’s my new magic trick I’m trying to I like that I’ve never heard of that surprisingly and I’m gonna I’m gonna try that out much apparently it’s much more um uh trustworthy than using a magic eightball so at least go with that that’s funny all right magic MERS thank you so
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