(00:00) hello and welcome boys and babes to the magic Hour podcast a place where we navigate through life’s Peaks and valleys with all the vulnerability and shamelessness we can muster with the help of world-class guests from all walks of life we uncover new truths and valuable tools for manifesting our Highest Potential I’m your host Mercedes Terrell along with my partner in shine Jade Bryce hey you guys so today we are covering a topic that most people think they know enough about to keep themselves healthy
(00:31) our oral health we know we should brush and floss our teeth at least twice a day and we shouldn’t eat too much sugar so that we don’t rot our teeth out we know these Basics but turns out we may all be hindering ourselves by not looking more deeply at how our oral health correlates to our overall health so in this episode we are going to cover all the bases and get straight to the root of why root canals amongst other dental procedures could be directly related to seemingly unrelated ailments yes this is one I’ve
(00:59) really been looking forward to so I will waste no time today’s guest is Paving the way for Oral healthc Care today’s guest is Paving the way for the Oral healthc Care movement toward holistic and integrative biologic dentistry in addition to his degree and as a leader in his field he has a doctorate in naturopathic medicine and is board certified in naturopathic Dental Medicine his hopes are to reverse the negative stereotypes associated with Dentistry through his dedicated application and integration of Advanced
(01:32) Dental Technologies and his whole human approach to Medicine having been featured in numerous Dental journals on television and in magazines for the innovated care he provides he is a modern pioneer in Progressive Dental Care he’s achieved Master status in the world clinical clinical in the world clinical laser institute and Diplomat status in the World Congress of minimally invasive Dentistry he’s a master of the international academy no he’s a me I got to redo this obviously he’s a member of the
(02:08) International Academy of oral medicine and toxicology International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine and the holistic Dental Association he is Oregon’s only dentist to be board certified in naturopathic medicine to be board certified I’m just trying to get through this thing so I can start he is Oregon’s only dentist to be board certified in naturopathic medical dentistry and integrative biological dental medicine with a full-time practice in Portland Oregon his focus is on helping his patients achieve all of
(02:44) their health goals taking a whole person approach to dental medicine his goal is to help people understand how all of the systems in our body are connected and with that help us to recognize and value how our oral health is critically tied to our ability to be the half happy healthy well adjusted humans we were meant to please welcome Dr Kelly J blet to the magic hour what is going on I don’t know okay let try that one more G okay from the top yeah hello and welcome boys and babes to the magic Hour podcast a place where we
(03:29) navigate through life’s Peak and valleys with all the vulnerability and shamelessness we can muster with the help of worldclass guests from all walks of life we uncover new truths and valuable tools for manifesting our Highest Potential I’m your host Mercedes Terell along with my partner in shine Jade Bryce hey you guys so today we are covering a topic that most people think they know enough about to keep themselves healthy our oral health we know we should brush and floss our teeth at least twice a day and we shouldn’t
(03:59) eat too much sugar so that we don’t rot our teeth out we know these Basics but turns out we may all be hindering ourselves by not looking more deeply at how our oral health correlates to our overall health so in this episode we are going to cover all the bases and get straight to the root of why root canals amongst other dental procedures could be directly related to seemingly unrelated ailments yes this is one I’ve been really looking forward to so I will waste no time today’s guest is bve today’s guest is Paving the way for
(04:36) Oral healthc Care movement why am I missing that that line every time today’s guest is Paving the way for the oral Healthcare movement toward holistic and integrative biologic dentistry in addition to his Dental degree and as a leader in his Fields he has a doctor in naturopathic medicine and is board certified in naturopathic dental medicine his hopes are to reverse the negative stereotypes associated with Dentistry through his dedicated application and integration of Advanced Dental Technologies and his whole human
(05:09) approach to Medicine having been featured in numerous Dental journals on television and in magazines for the Innovative care he provides he is a modern pioneer in Progressive Dental Care he’s achieved Master status in the world clinical laser institute and Diplomat status in the World Congress of minimally invasive Dentistry he’s a member of the International Academy of oral medicine and toxicology International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine and the holistic Dental Association he is organ’s only dentist to be board
(05:43) certified in naturopathic medical dentistry and integrative biological dental medicine with a full-time practice in Portland Oregon his focus is on helping his patients achieve all of their health goals taking a whole person approach to dental medicine his goal is to help understand how all of the systems in our body are connected and with that help us to recognize and value how our oral health is critically tied to the ability to be the happy healthy well-adjusted humans we were meant to please welcome Dr Kelly J blet to the
(06:17) magic hour uh he said he hasn’t received the zoom link was on his email I sent him with all or the email I sent you with all the questions how are y’all this morning good excellent how are you doing good good good I think I must have missed the link or something yeah um Mercedes do you want to tell him about the HD real quick oh yeah could you uh if you go down on the bottom left of the zoom window there it’ll say there’s a little thing that says stop video but right next to it is a little arrow if you
(06:56) click that and then click on video settings you see that you guys so good in video settings it says my video and then there’s a little box you can click that says enable HD yep we just click that if it’s not clicked and you’ll probably will disappear for a second and then we’ll come back and there we go HD perfect wow this is amazing yeah we’re trying well now Zoom is told us that because everybody’s using zoom in this you know pandemic that they might not be able to actually give us a HD footage depending on their
(07:32) bandwidth so um we’ll see if it works but we’re hoping it gives us some clearer video because usually it’s a little bit low res so gotcha and yall were saying that that this goes out more as like uh an audio podcast kind of a thing yeah it’s usually I mean we’re trying to transition so that we have more content on YouTube and if these videos work out as far as getting the HD come across then we’ll be more apt putting it on YouTube but right now it’s mostly a listening platform we use the
(08:04) video portion of it to make our little promo clips that we put on social media and such yeah so maybe it’ll be our first one on YouTube very cool I was gonna say my wife was um she was loving some of the people you’ve interviewed on your podcast great yeah that was really cool thank you for saying that absolutely um okay so what we’re gonna do I’m going to read your intro and then we’ll just get into to the questions so yeah and of course this is pre-recorded it’s not live so if you have any reason you need to you know
(08:38) interject or whatever we can always edit out so don’t feel yeah weird about that gotcha okay all right you ready Mercedes yes I’m recording on my end today’s guest is Paving the way for oral health care and the oral Healthcare movement toward holistic and integrative biologic dentistry in addition to his Dental degree and as a leader in his field he has a doctorate in naturopathic medicine and is board certified in naturopathic Dental Medicine his hopes are to reverse the negative stereotypes associated with Dentistry through his
(09:14) dedicated application and integrative an integration of Advanced Dental Technologies and his whole human approach to Medicine having been featured in numerous Dental journals on television and in magazines for the Innovative care he provides he is a modern pioneer in Progressive Dental Care he’s achieved Master status in the world clinical laser institute and Diplomat status in the World Congress of minimally invasive Dentistry he’s a member of the International Academy of oral medicine and toxicology
(09:47) International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine and the holistic Dental Association he is Oregon’s only dentist to be board certified in naturopathic medical dentistry and integrative biological dental medicine with a full-time practice in Portland OR in Portland Oregon his focus is on helping his patients achieve all of their health goals taking a whole person approach to dental medicine his goal is to help people understand how all of the systems in our bodies are connected and with that help
(10:20) us to recognize and value how our oral health is critically tied to our ability to be the happy healthy well-adjusted humans we were meant to please welcome welcome Dr Kelly J blet to the magic hour thank you so much for that yeah thank you for being here so we’ve actually spoken to I think a friend of yours Dr Jess U Dr Jessica petross on the show before and she uh raved about you so we knew we had to have you on that’s so nice yeah she’s awesome yeah love her great so I’ve uh heard you mention in listening to you know other
(10:56) podcasts that you’ve been on and such that you have history working in psychology and counseling before you had your career in Biological Dentistry maybe you could bring us up to speed on how you became you know the human you are today and what brought you to the work you’re currently doing wow um I gotta say you’re the that’s a great question particularly I like how you answer or how you ask like about kind of the human nature of it um I’ll just share a little bit about myself if that’s all right please yeah
(11:29) um so born and raised in Portland Oregon have spent pretty much my whole life here um outside of the four years that I was in Eugene Oregon for college um have a very loving and supportive family my parents grew up here in Portland I happen to have an identical twin brother who is also a dentist uh he practices down in the Dallas Fort Worth area and um interestingly enough he had always wanted to be a dentist um coming through middle school high school I mean I had no interest in that at all um a matter of fact what I was really interested in
(12:07) from taking like psychology and sociology courses in college um was how people think how people behave the choices that they make so you know when I went off to college that was kind of my vision um was that I would pursue psychology as a a professional interest and I my big Vision was you know eventually I’ll get a PhD and um I don’t know why it was just kind of what what the future looked like to me and so I pursued that and uh by the end of my junior year in college you know had all my uh was ready to go off to a master’s
(12:45) degree program and part of my history that I think is important as to how I got here is that growing up I really didn’t have much of a spiritual connectedness uh to the universe like I would um say I didn’t believe in God and it just you know wasn’t part of my life uh story at that time and interestingly enough my junior year of college uh I I met the woman of my dreams um she was kept encouraging me to go to church and I was of course you know selfishly just like no no no I don’t want any of that
(13:19) stuff and um we both were applying to the same programs for our master’s degree we both got into the same programs for our master’s degree so we’re starting to look at life together long term and and you know I’m happy to say this will be our 26th year of marriage so that that part of life seemed to work out but spring it was actually 27 years ago this month that I I came to know Jesus and I and I came to understand the god of the universe and really kind of open my own Spirit to what the universe
(13:53) wanted me to do and and it was I mean this might sound a little out there but um you know not for our show well this is perfect then I mean I I would had spent four years going in one direction that I thought personally like this is what I meant for and when I opened my energy to the universe like it was very clear that was not what God’s intention was for me and um and can I can I ask what your first Direction was what specifically oh yeah I mean it was very clear in my mind I was intending on becoming a clinical psychologist okay
(14:30) and working with people you know to optimize you know Human Performance or thinking or behavior or what have you um and it turns out I’m doing that so all that yeah all of that experience is really put to use on a daily basis but what I heard God calling me to do I mean this is I’m talking within the week after I I I came to Christ I mean it it was he was saying I want you to be a dentist and I want you to reverse the negative stereotype of Dentistry mean I can just feel it in my soul and I’m thinking why on Earth would
(15:06) I be called to this especially when I have an identical twin brother already going on that path right I I don’t want to be him you know um so I mean it’s a long story to share about how he really paved the way for that to happen for me and you know I’ve just kind of Taken life every day as best I can one step at a time in continuing to pursue that mission um and I mean these kinds of things keep happening in my life where you know folks like yourself reach out and say hey let’s let’s shine a light on this
(15:42) subject because really I mean you’ve talked to other health uh professionals certainly and and and probably in your own life experiences found that you know Dentistry is this you know the secondary thought in health care or at least it is for most people um and even the way that we are taught to approach it in dental school is so um symptomatically driven we don’t we certainly don’t think a whole lot about the connectedness of what happens in the mouth and how it influences our body as a whole um so that’s been part of my
(16:21) mission is to take these opportunities um as you were listing off the number number of advanced certifications that I’ve pursued over the past 20 plus years you know it sounds like a lot and I think gosh that I mean I spent a lot of time doing this you know um you know and I’ve been raising two daughters with my wife at the same time um they’re at that stage now where they’re kind of getting ready to launch into their own lives into college and such um but I mean it the truth is I’m super passionate about this
(16:54) uh I’m super passionate about helping people optimize their own Health uh and life experience yeah um and also learning to feel loved in an environment you know where I think we could all agree that in and not just medicine and Dentistry I think in a lot of um a lot of professional Endeavors there’s kind of like well I’m I’m the health expert you know I’m gonna tell you what you need and that is absolutely the opposite approach that we have in my practice I mean we we are here to listen to each individual understand
(17:33) their story understand where they come from and any fears they might you know be dragging along with them and then kind of you know once we’ve made a human connection then get into all right let’s talk about all these things that might be going on with your oral health that are influencing you systemically um but until we connect as human beings you know like entities of of universal light how you know you know how do we expect for uh there to be a good connection right yeah absolutely I think and and
(18:06) there’s so many things you mentioned there that I’d like to touch on and it sounds like the way that you explained your story there is the fact that you were for whatever reasons directed first towards um studying uh Clinical Psychology and and wanting to have human connection because I mean that’s a huge part of that job if you’re going to be actually counseling people became foundational piece for you to build this this Dental um this new Venture that you decided to take instead and I don’t even want to
(18:40) say instead because like you’re saying it seems like so much of your work in dental medicine is tied directly to how you essentially counsel your patients so how do you first I want to ask you how does that how does your background in Psychology um play in to your dental office like when you’re sitting with a patient sure sure well so I’ll try to paint a picture for you um part of our experience here I I’ve been very blessed to bring um four hygienists on my team over a period of of about the last six years uh almost
(19:21) seven years now where I started with with one who was really inspired to help other humans and I trained her to communicate the way that I used to do it because you know for a long time when my practice was smaller I would I would do the new patient experiences um so we trained them to ask human-based questions so what I mean by that and I’ll share with you part of my belief system I believe that people come to us and with an like they already have the answers and I I really gathered this when I was um a junior and a senior in
(20:01) college part of my psych or psychology background was that I worked on the crisis line at the University of Oregon which you know that was a real eyeopener for me yeah one of the things that I came away from that with however was that people would call in crisis and it would seem as though like oh they just didn’t know what to do but if I were just present with them and can continue to ask thoughtful and reflective questions they would find that they had the answers themselves they knew what to do they just needed to somehow give
(20:34) themselves permission or something right so that’s a lot of how we approach things in our practice and we’ve created I mean for a lot of people that you know if you take them from the your reception area straight into a dental chair right The Palms start to sweat you know it’s this weird uncomfortable situation and understandably so so we’ve actually created a room in our office um it’s not big um it has three very comfortable chairs uh it’s very kind of light an Airy feeling and uh our new patient
(21:11) experience in our practice is two hours long and it’s unstructured right there’s there certainly information that we would like to gather but if that person wants to spend two hours talking about their story we’re gonna do it right it’s in this environment that has nothing to do with Dentistry right it’s just human to human it’s almost like if you were going to see your counselor right yeah except for more comfortable you know um and so we allow the patient to drive the pace of the conversation that makes sense yeah no
(21:46) it’s beautiful I think the the listening skills it sounds like you picked up or maybe you were already prone to having uh worked really well throughout your other career choices here and I wanted to ask too because you mentioned have this twin brother um and I always thought you know I have siblings and sisters all sisters and thinking about having a sibling who does something I’m I’m the older sister so you know I’m usually the one who does it first and then they could follow in the that wake
(22:16) but when you have a twin who’s already a dentist does that help you to be like well I can literally see myself doing that I mean it’s literally can do that because I know my if my brother can do it I can do it type of thing I always wondered if twins have that kind of almost a oneup like in a sense you have someone who you know has pretty much the same physical capabilities you know has a lot of the same stuff going on that you do and if they’re doing it you’re like that’s a boat of confidence in your your
(22:47) direction yeah absolutely it was an interesting story actually because um although we were you know born on the same day and all that stuff uh the way that things worked out I ended up starting Dental school three years ahead of my brother so um the year I was a senior he was a freshman and we were at the same school up up in here in Portland um and then when he came out into practice I you know I mean this was like gosh 2003 is I was already kneed deep into Progressive laser Technologies and being fairly active in the Academy of
(23:22) laser dentistry and things like that and I’d made some good connections with amazing mentors um and it was kind of nice to bring him into that fold and just share with him like this is where my expectations are for myself based on you know the inspirational leadership I’m getting from my mentors and he hopped right on board with that cool um you know he’s had a real shift since he moved from the Portland area down to Texas and he now works for somebody else um but I I you know it’s certainly you can imagine right he and I
(23:56) geek out on this stuff a lot we text about things and um you know Thanksgiving dinners can be a little drab you know in terms of conversation but you know there’s always a lot of uh oral health stuff going on with the families but it is nice to have that in common interesting that that’s the path that our our lives were taken toward uh you so you living in Portland and your practice being in Portland has to be a world apart from having a practice in Dallas just I’m thinking the mentality of the people in Portland which I
(24:32) visited Jade has visited with me are they’re just wide open you know wide open as far as the way that they think about stuff especially when it comes to holistic medicine so has he a big resistance over there it’s you know one of the thing and I have to speak to Portland as a native right um it’s an interesting it’s an very interesting situation where we have you know a phenomenal naturopathic medical school here right one one of the best in the world and we also have Oregon Health Science University’s uh School of Dentistry
(25:11) which is very traditional you know I’ve had the opportunity thankfully probably like the two of you where you travel a lot you know I’ve spoken across the country about different Dental things and and I have to say this is just my observation that the closer we are to a dental school the more constipated the thinking generally speaking not totally but what what I think is an advantage for our practice and our environment is that we do have so many naturopathic Physicians chiropractors um health care providers
(25:50) that think outside the box um you know like we tend to connect with the doctor Jess’s right I mean that’s I came to find her is she was looking for a dentist who was Savvy in safe Mercury removal and things like that um you know I still get a fair number of arrows shot in my back from you know dentist in the area sure um you know and we’ll probably spend some time talking about root canals today you know I I through social media get a lot of arrow shot my way uh with respect to just just trying to bring things up
(26:28) right right and and one of the things you’ll find I suspect is that I you know I really don’t care if anybody shares my view like I’m not here to convince anybody I just want to share information and encourage people to think right I think if most people have the right truthful information they will make the best choice for themselves whatever that means right so I think particularly when it comes to something like a ruken Al like you can absolutely choose to do a root canal and a tooth it is it is a
(27:01) choice you are empowered to make um it’s just the Dentistry overall doesn’t share with people you know the numerous downsides that are going to come along with it it’s just oh well you need a rot canal and again there’s that mentality right we tell you what you need uh and you just sit there and Nod your head and go okay you’re the doctor you must know best right um that’s a real problem when limited information is being Shar yeah absolutely I uh I always wanted a twin and every time I every time I I would
(27:36) tell my mom that she would say well maybe you have one out there um so what is the difference between a conventional dentist and a biological or holistic dentist awesome love love this question and and I get a fair amount on on Instagram and Facebook actually um I like to try to make things succinct and understandable right so when I think of the mindset of the traditional Andor conventional dentist which you know more power to him that that’s how I was trained at in dental school we were trained to think in terms
(28:13) of treating symptoms okay and when I talk with other more integrative and holistic health care providers both in dentistry and otherwise they tend to be more systems thinker right so it’s kind of a symptoms versus systems uh thought process so for instance might be you know in dental school you know our first thing is again we we go greet our patient in the in the reception area we’re boom we’re straight into the dental chair right we’re getting right to it we’re Gathering data and then I’m
(28:48) going to tell you what you need looking you know like back in those days let’s look for holes in teeth right can we drill and fill can we justify Drilling and filling because that’s what we were trained to do is we a symptom we you know drill it we fill it but if if you stop and think about that right the tooth didn’t develop a hole because it had a lack of a filling right so the filling isn’t the answer to why the hole got there in the first place you know that’s a little weird thinking but it we
(29:16) have to we have to consider why did the hole get created right so if we’re just Drilling and filling it’s like the best analogy I can think of is your house is on fire right and you’re calling the carpenter because you’re concerned about replacing the roof not the fire department do that make sense so that’s kind of it’s really a a difference in how we approach our thinking for care my goal is if I have to provide clinical care ideally I would like to do that one time and not have the symptoms return
(29:52) and it you know in order to do that I have to first address the system that caused it we spend a fair amount of time particularly in my hygiene team extremely bright people um you know we have to talk about diet which I suspect we’ll talk a bit about today because it’s so critical right what we put in our mouths makes a huge difference uh and then of course what we put in our mouth usually we’re going to ingest so what goes down our gut that makes a huge difference because it comes back through the blood system and such and affects
(30:26) the teeth internally so we have to think in terms of systems first and then we can deal with the symptoms later sense yeah absolutely so what are the areas where a holistic dentist performs differently from a traditional dentist um well so I want to provide a little clarification on this because um I think it will help I think it will help the people who choose to listen to this podcast first and foremost if somebody goes online let’s say you’re in Atlanta right I’m just picking a city and you type into your
(31:06) Google search holistic dentist Atlanta right and then a bunch of names pop up um just because they’ve chosen to use the word holistic or naturopathic or integrative or biological or whatever the the term dour is and thankfully I’ve been in dentistry long enough to see you know the different um it ations of what is U in style for marketing of course just because they say you know we’re a holistic practice I would encourage people to dig deeper and find out what does that mean right because I I talk with people on Instagram from
(31:44) around the world on a daily basis we’re saying hey I just went and saw a holistic dentist and they’re telling me I need a rook now right I’m like okay time out so so the first step and and again this is just Kelly bit’s uh opinion on this right so take it for what it’s worth um there’s a heavier focus on the goals of the patient in holistic Dentistry or or integrative Dentistry um which I believe respects the autonomy of the patient so rather again rather than this being about you need this because I’m telling you so
(32:19) it’s more about tell me what your goals are and how can we help you meet that right because this is your health right um and there’s a huge at least in our practice big focus on relationships which really supports the notion of trust um you know if there’s trust that’s the hardest thing to establish right the clinical stuff is a lot easier quite honestly um I would say in a lot of most holistic practices and integrated practices big focus on diet and gut health and lifestyle frankly that’s the big stuff I can’t
(32:57) control somebody’s diet uh their lifestyle I can make recommendations but they have to walk it out um I will say thankfully something I’ve observed over the past four to five years that we’ve been on this path is that most people who are seeking us they’ve already chosen that lifestyle right that’s why they’re it out that’s true and I like to acknowledge that like thank you uh you know for being a kale loving green juicer I mean you know because if somebody comes in and says gosh doc I’m
(33:28) concerned about why I keep getting cavities and they’re sipping on a 32 ounce di of coke it’s like okay or it could be kombucha for that matter you know wheat and acidic Andor acidic it’s like okay um something you’re probably going to notice in holistic practices is um marketing around Mercury safe or Mercury free right those sorts of things and both uh the the iaomt uh the International Academy of oral medicine and toxicology and the iabdm which you mentioned that I’m a part of they both have almost identical
(34:05) protocols and both my partner and I you know we follow those protocols so when we’re there one thing to say well we’re Mercury free because we don’t put it in your teeth right but when you’re taking it out um that’s creating quite a bit of you know Vapor they we already know that they give off Vapor 247 and when you heat heat up Mercury fillings vapor you you’re increasing it due to the nature of heat you’re increasing the amount of vapor you’re exposing yourself to so you put a hand piece on that right something
(34:35) that’s spinning at 200,000 RPMs that even with all the water it’s going to create some heat um so we employ these these protocols for safety of the patient and the safety of you know the dentist and our team members uh because we have to do this every day so yeah look look for you know those protocols the one that the IIA is is uh came out with called the smart cute acronym right safe Mercury amalgam removal technique Got Love acony U but it’s awesome right I mean if you’re gonna have mercury out find a dentist
(35:11) that that follows those protocols okay for your own safety um yeah so following a smart the smart protocol uh and would you say that uh holistic Dentistry guidelines if we can call it that um would say to not use fluoride um any other specifics that you might be able to call up a local dentist and who says they’re holistic and and test them to figure out well and again I think there’s a there’s a that fluoride’s an awesome awesome awesome thing to discuss because um you know we could spend all
(35:45) day talking about fluoride alone of course but without question right fluoride has been proven that if you put it on the tooth it’s going to make the tooth surface more acid resistant so that one little thing we can look at that and go oh well that that sounds great and of course that’s what the American Dental Association is like you know they’ve been stamping that into dentist for years like well you gotta fluoridate everything flating the water right but interestingly Studies have shown first of all ingestion of fluoride so you know
(36:17) if you live in a place that has fluoridated water provides no benefit to your teeth we know that for sure um now studies are starting to come out looking at fluoride exposure um internally both through our gut and when you put that Fluoride Varnish let’s say on your teeth and your mucosa starts rubbing against it I mean you’re absorbing that transdermally right so we we understand fluoride being a neurotoxin it will have an effect within your body so they’re actually finding that areas who have um flid
(36:56) floridated their water are starting to you know be shown to have lower IQs and other cognitive mental deficits wow which I mean at least in controlled studies they’ve they’ve shown that my thinking is you know why complicate this right if we were intended to have fluoride every day all the time I mean I really believe the planet would have been designed for us to have that right so um kind of like if we look back on a history of decay for Millennia tooth decay wasn’t much of an issue up until you know we started uh
(37:36) you know making more of a carb Centric diet yeah mainlining sugar and that’s the real biggie right is super processed foods and in in particular processed refined sugar right I mean it’s it’s horrible going in your mouth it’s even worse when it hits your gut I mean the stuff that it does to the rest of your body so fluoride in my opinion it is not the answer it’s not a Panacea we have some available because I mean you know some of our patients just believe like they it’s been drilled into
(38:11) them pardon the pun uh that you know oh I just have to have my fluoride right right it’s like and who’s to say right if they feel better about having it maybe just that emotional positivity is better for their health overall so be it um and if we’re only putting it on their teeth once every six months to 12 months it’s probably not going to kill you um thankfully in Portland we’re a non fluoridated community so we’re not getting it as frequently but of course with as much as people drink bottled
(38:40) beverages that are you know made in places where you know the water is floridated you’re still getting it so um it’s not a Panacea but we we we we again we want to respect people’s autonomy right right and not exactly and I mean that’s I’m so glad to be a part of and be seeing a an uprise in holistic medicine in people really going back and and looking and thinking about what they’re putting into their body and how they’re treating their body I think we’ve been uh really misplaced from our bodies for
(39:16) so long you know we’ve been separating ourselves from uh being in touch especially you know we could go into like the how the patriarch has to do with that and all this but um I think we’re really returning you know it’s going to take time but I’m glad to see that happening and so what I’m hearing here is that if you were to be a person who’s looking for a biological dentist in your area for instance you might be able to find out if they are supportive of the fact that root canals are not
(39:46) maybe the best process for um digging into a a tooth that has a deep cavity um there are other options which we’ll get into uh in order to to fix a problem like that they would be someone who is not pushing fluoride all the time and someone who also is using the smart protocol to remove Mercury um fillings and such so I love all that that’s a really good start I think that’s a really hard like when you type into Yelp you know holistic Dentistry everybody comes up with that or biological every dentist that I’ve been to and know that
(40:22) they are not you know doing those practices so it is a tricky thing I wish uh maybe and maybe there is but if there isn’t I would love it if someone listening to this if you Dr boget um have the ability to put together a list of people who are like you know certified in that area is that does that exist are you on that list I would share this with you I mean there’s a lot of different ways that that people could go about finding somebody that’s great um one of the services that and this kind of got stimulated by the fact that in in
(40:55) Oregon right now um like most dentists in the country you know we’re we’re not practicing right uh our governor has you know told us outside of emergencies you know you’re not seeing patients for at least right now three months right so but that doesn’t mean people don’t have dental issues it doesn’t mean they don’t have questions and they want to take advantage of this time to do some research so anyways one of the services that we offer if people go to our our website um loget dentalcare.com
(41:23) um they can ask us questions one of which you can click on a button and say please help me find a dentist um because what what we’re good at doing is sifting through the baloney you know um it’s one thing to say we don’t you know we don’t do Mercury we do smart protocol we don’t uh you know we don’t do root canals but how do you care for human beings right right and thankfully I’m fairly well connected and continue to develop um the the group of people with whom I’ve I’m connecting
(41:58) you know particular on a national level um so that we can make referrals because that is the that is the question I get more frequently than anything on social media is Dr bget do you know somebody in Boseman Montana do you know somebody in you know Columbus Ohio um and I’m working on that right so if people want our help we’re happy to provide that um any of the groups that I’m a part of like the IA T the iabm you can go to their websites and they have a hey which dentists are close to me right and so
(42:35) those are also good resources that that you can utilize um but I encourage people to uh you know dig deep because as you mentioned that I I so appreciate you mentioning that it is the term to jure right um with as fast as we’re popping up Whole Foods Markets and all that good stuff you know people are hopping on the band wag and of oh we’re holistic too well what the best question well not the best one of the one of my favorite questions I’ll put it that way that I have my front office team members ask is
(43:10) okay you know we love that you’re looking for a holistic dentist out of curiosity what does holistic mean to you because if we don’t understand that we’re simply making assumptions based on our own beliefs about what we think it means right so once we again it’s all about let’s let’s open this to conversation and get clarity right um and then we can have better Dynamics and communication beautiful yes I think that’s an excellent resource so thank you for providing that so let’s dig a little
(43:42) deeper into some stuff that I think people will be even less familiar with than what we’ve already discussed here I want to talk to you about what the meridians of the body are first of all just just the meridians of the body we’ll get to specifically how the ti of teeth sure sure uh and and you know for clarification I’m not an acupuncturist um I’ve never done acupuncture I’ve had it done on myself and if I might just share a brief story about of it and my appreciation for energy meridians um just about 10 months
(44:15) ago I had a total knee replacement on my right knee which you know there are more fun things to do I can assure you you know but 30 years of wear and tear finally took its toll I had this knee replace bement done very well but I was in constant significant pain for six months it was over six months finally at the advice of my one of my hygienists I went uh and saw an acupuncturist who focuses on um Orthopedic acupuncture and after the first treatment I’m I’m not it’s no joke to say at least 80% of my
(44:50) pain was gone and I was like wow I mean I know I believe in it you know I know it works but but this was like lifechanging wow um so like I’m trying to think of the name of oh there’s a book called and it was recommended to me by one of our patients who’s a licensed acupuncturist called the spark in the machine okay and if anybody who’s listening to this is interested in understanding the how and the why uh of acupuncture meridians where they come from why they work um the author who’s both a additionally
(45:27) trained MD from from England um then went on to get his Doctorate in acupuncture medicine um he does a beautiful job of explaining kind of from a western approach the how and the why that acupuncture meridians and energetic meridians throughout our body work um you know thinking along the planes of fascial tissues and how our bodies transmit energy um he does a great job of explaining all that as a very simplistic acupuncture student um I would look at the fact that you know our bodies are 99.9999 you know some crazy amount
(46:13) energy right we’re almost very little matter um so it makes sense if when we gain an appreciation for how we can influence the energy um how we can then re reshape or affect how that energy is distributed or uh we relieve blockages or what have you right um so they exist it’s not my area of expertise I am becoming more of a an afficianado of the dental meridians which we’ll probably talk about absolutely yeah and to give uh just a listeners a you know definition uh from the I don’t know Google dictionary we’ll
(46:59) call it Wikipedia of what meridians of the body are it’s listed as traditional Chinese medicine describes meridians of the body as a network of energy channels these channels are thought to connect to the surface of the body with the internal organs as long as chi chi energy can flow through these energy channels in the quote unquote goldilock zones not too little not too much disease can be averted so that’s what we’re talking about when we’re talking about acupuncture opening you know with
(47:26) these little needle points opening up or slowing down the flow of this Chi energy to the different organs to the different places like in your knee pain um so okay so now that we have that Foundation how does this all work with the teeth and and the Meridian tooth chart yeah so one of the things that I found interesting um as I started getting into this stuff was to appreciate that our teeth are derived from from the same embryological tissues as our central nervous system so when we think about that right I mean you’re
(48:05) your spinal cord all the nerves that come off of that it’s all connected to your teeth and where I started really gaining some appreciation for the connectedness of U or the influence shall we say of what we do to teeth and and areas of the mouth and how it affects us systemically were people through people’s stories right they would come in and say gosh you know I had this root canal or these two re root canals and I mean maybe it’s just me maybe I’m making it up but I have not had the same energy ever since you know
(48:45) um and I mean I still remember the first patient who called our practice and asked you know would we please remove these teeth I know that they are affecting my health and you know you can imagine this is probably five years ago my front office person at the time their eyes were like wide open like you just want to take out teeth right you know it wasn’t something which we were experienced with at the time but it’s what opened the door right so I’ll share if we look at a tooth energy Meridian chart let me just share
(49:15) something like um wisdom teeth okay let’s take wisdom teeth because it’s an issue where so many people end up having their wisdom teeth removed and I’ll probably talk later about the concept of cavitation lesions and how they develop which is trapped infection once you have had a tooth removed soft tissue closes over before the bone heals and you got Junk in there right so the wisdom teeth meridians are connected to the heart the dadum or dadum however you like to say it right the junction right
(49:52) at the end of your stomach as it starts turning into your small intestine the terminal iling so the far end of the small intestine um your shoulder your elbow your hand on the owner side so outside if you want to consider that the SI joint the Sacro ilal joint and your feet in your toes okay and what is interesting is I think that let’s say and and we depending on who you read some studies say that as many as 75% of wisdom tooth extraction sites develop cavitation Legion so chronic infection in your jaw bone and if we understand
(50:32) that that’s on your heart Meridian you know we would we would be wise to consider like well what what kind of systemic effect might that have on the heart right or joints something like that um another area that I that I find just incredible because of if you look at the the ridiculous rise in breast cancer over the last last 80 to 100 years yeah there are a total of 10 teeth in your mouth which are connected to the breast energy Meridian they’re your upper molers right upper second premolars and all four of the lower
(51:16) premolars um so imagine I mean if somebody has a root canal outside of trauma to the front of the mouth the vast majority of people that I see who have root canals they’re in posterior teeth right so your odds are pretty darn high if you’ve had a root canal of it being on your breast energy meridians and so here’s what I think is really um worth considering right let’s say God forbid you know a person you know notices lumps they go in to see their doctor oh yeah you know we do the mamogram sure enough you know they
(51:52) you’re diagnosed with breast cancer at what point in time are they ref refer to their dentist to assess whether they have root canals and or the health of the root canals which I’m here to tell you if you have a rot Canal it’s infected right that’s that’s been my own finding it’s been the finding of other people who’ve looked into this they’re all infected so if we know that there’s chronic inflammatory response on that energy Meridian of course we should expect that the tissues connected to it will also be
(52:22) affected but nobody makes that referral right right the dentists are almost not never but almost never um brought into the picture which is so unfortunate that brings two things to mind and firstly the you know insurance that I’m sure is not covering a lot of your practice um which wouldn’t direct someone with breast cancer to their dentist because then you know that creates a whole another issue in Insurance um I don’t know if you have any words on that but the other thing that brought us uh brought to mind was um this uprisal
(53:01) right now of xplant surgeries when it comes to breast implants and other uh maybe butt implants or whatever places people are getting implants anywhere that’s actually having a surgery that could potentially leave behind dead tissue right right absolutely yeah it’s um you know and uh I’m not a plastic surgeon one of the things I often say jokingly is like you know I think uh general surgeons and plastic surgeons they have you know in some ways their job is a little easier in terms of infection management than what we’re
(53:37) dealing with right um if you have an xplant surgery or you have a knee replacement or you have some other surgery you can pretty much control um sterilizing the area prior to surgery um you can pretty much control can bandage it you know you can protect it in the mouth people I mean unless you’re going to put them on an IV and give them dextrose and you know for two weeks uh and even then the mouth is you know it’s the op it’s the beginning of your GI track yeah teing with bacteria it’s impossible to sterilize it right I
(54:13) mean I know in the knee surgeries I’ve had I’m Co in that Betadine right so at least to some extent they can control more so than we can in the mouth but I think you make an excellent point because what look let’s assume let’s hope that everything you know in the breast explant surgery that things heal well um but you’re G to have scar formation right the scar formation is definitely going to influence energetic flow to the teeth and everything else on that energy Meridian right um so we have
(54:48) to think more broadly about the consequences of everything that occurs to us the choices we make that we you know inflict upon ourselves such as our diet um it all influences our energy right yeah I mean health is definitely a full body Endeavor it’s about taking into consideration the entire person and that’s mind body and spirit you know I think we’ve we’ve addressed a lot of that already um so you know diving deeper I want to talk about something I’m sure many people have seen the controversial documentary um root cause
(55:27) which features opinions from doctors and dentists from around the world on the health effects of the root canal procedure specifically they get into some other areas too but um I want to know from you what about that documentary do you think created the major backlash that ended up getting it removed from Netflix well gosh yeah this is absolutely such a great point and frankly it was a well done movie I’ve connected uh with the the guy in Australia who made it um it’s well written it’s a great documentation of
(55:58) his story and it’s frankly it’s very consistent with many people that I’ve you know been fortunate enough to care for um I think that let’s just take a look at a slightly different topic for just a second to to appreciate um the Dare we call it political influence of large groups such as the American Dental Association right so up until maybe 10 years ago the American Dental Association swore up and down you know Mercury is safe in your mouth it’s you know it lasts forever blah blah blah why
(56:35) are you will they were even taking people’s licenses away Dental licenses away for acknowledging the scientific fact that in fact people were being exposed to Mercury by having this in their mouths interestingly enough enough pressure in science was finally presented that they now acknowledge even you can you can find it on the Ada’s website that in fact oh yeah um it is known that you know constantly mercury vapor is being given off from Silver Mercury fillings right um it’s interesting how they’ve changed their
(57:11) tune they’ve also stated that like um but we don’t know that it’s unsafe for people unless you’re a pregnant woman or a child under six then you shouldn’t have it which is crazy absolutely crazy so you think about like in dental schools in America and other places in the world every Dental student comes out of there having done root canals you know we’re we’re being taught to just extend that drilling from the top of the tooth into the middle go ahead and clean the whole thing out
(57:43) um and they’re even Specialists right they’re they’re specialists in the practice of endodontist right doing root canals and you know no fault to them I mean they’ve been LED down this path I I certainly learned how to do them in dental school and you know learned to perfect them in continuing education and residency um and the problem is that the tooth itself right what we what we’re used to looking at when we talk with each other and we look at each other’s Smiles all we’re seeing is the
(58:17) enamel which is impervious to bacteria unless you get Decay right but let’s just take healthy enamel the root surface of the of the tooth on the other hand which is the vast majority of the tooth it’s all porous like a sponge right it’s called Dentin mostly made of collagen and these pores are you know somewhere on the order of five to 10 times wider in diameter than the bacteria that live under our gum line right so you know you go and you drill a tooth out and you remove the nerve and and now it’s empty inside it’s it’s void
(58:51) of everything and you you know put your little root canal filling cone in there it’s now sitting it’s housed in a in a sponge that will absorb the bacteria that live underneath the gum line as long as it’s in your mouth right and and Sciences some Studies have shown that it takes about 30 days for the tooth in its entirety to absorb anerobic bacteria and become infected which if you think about it forget the science if you just think about like what are people expecting when they go in to have the root canal
(59:25) done oh well I mean know my Pain’s going to go away it’s you know should never hurt again should be healthy I mean I’ve just spent you know two grand three grand on this tooth um surely it must be able to last me a lifetime now right um and unfortunately there’s so much that’s not being shared about what potentially could happen and what is likely to happen with their health because of it right um and I I’ve kind of argued this this fact with endodontist who have pinged me via Instagram and it’s interesting I mean
(1:00:02) there are so to answer your question sorry I got a little off track but to answer your question with respect to why so much backlash in America more than 15 million root canals are going to be done this year wow so that’s you know like 41,000 per day I mean a lot of money it’s a lot money and it’s also I mean I just think about because this is how my spirit works I think at what point do you acknowledge that we’re wrong right like oops you know our bad I mean I think about in the time I’ve been out of
(1:00:42) dental school that’s getting close to a half a billion root canals that have been done just in America right so I think about like what what are the long-term Health ramifications of that you know I mean we don’t know I mean for every individual it’s going to be different certainly but that’s a lot of dental care if you want to call it that um being done that if we suddenly acknowledge the risks like the the true risks that are associated with that um that’s a a lot of eating crow so to speak right and how do you address that
(1:01:25) with with patience I mean my belief system is that human beings deserve and expect that we as health care providers would constantly be not only learning and growing but also assessing the methodology of the past does it still hold true today if so why and should we continue doing it the same way or change it yeah and true science is very much I mean really what it’s all about is finding out where we’re m Aken like okay where did we put something into to science law and then now we need to look at it again because
(1:02:03) it’s we’ve come across new information that makes it Incorrect and I think the hardest thing humans do is come up against those dissonances and refa you know reassess reframe and move through it because change is painful we are averse to pain so true you’re asking people to do a very difficult thing but that’s why you know what you’re doing is so powerful and important and it’s it’s uh we’re glad you’re being a light in that regard um I wanted to ask you about how worried
(1:02:35) you know my fear my fear monitor is going up as I watch root cause and as we have this conversation I have a root canal in my mouth currently that I’ve had for years and years I you know my wisdom Thief have been removed years ago and I’m sure the majority of people listening could can also relate in that same way so how worried do we need to be about the work work that we have done in our you know we’ve had had done in our mouths with traditional Dentistry um root canals and wisom teeth and whatever
(1:03:04) else um Mercury feelings and such that could be potentially dangerous and toxic yeah so um if it’s all right with you I might shift the word worried to um concerned but that’s just personal preference I so I’ll share a couple of of stories that are very near and dear to me um so few years back when my brother moved to Texas um my my father had been seeing my brother uh at his practice that when he was here and so my dad ended up coming back to me and we did a a three-dimensional cone beam scan and my
(1:03:48) dad happened to have all four molers on his left side they were all root canal right and when we did the cone beam scan which uh thankfully it’s a technology that allows us to move through teeth and three dimensions so it’s it’s very detailed and allows us to see things that we cannot see two Dimension um we noticed that he was having you know severe bone loss around these dead teeth which looking back it’s like well of course they’re dead right I mean it’s the body’s normal response to having
(1:04:22) dead tissue um and when we talked with him about these teeth that were absolutely asymptomatic to him by the way he had no clue and when we talked about it you know of course his response was well how am I gonna eat if we take those teeth out right and I thought well you know it’s a that’s a good question um what I can tell you is it’s not good and my advice is we get them out and he says well let me think about it okay within the year that he was taking some time to think about it he was diagnosed with
(1:04:54) Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma of his left cervical chain of lymph nodes in his neck and those are the lymph nodes that drain that part of the mouth right so I’m thinking well where of course where else would that infection be going when it if if it doesn’t have a draining Port which kind of gross but it happens which he did not that’s where all that junk is going so and of course his oncologist you know he went to see them first he didn’t even mention it to me until he’d seen his physician his oncologist and he calls up
(1:05:27) and says he I got this problem in my neck I want to let you know and we have a treatment plan I said ‘w dad you understand your teeth are connected to that right so it really opened this opportunity to connect with his Physicians where we could all work as a team and get out the source that was causing that he’s now missing all four of those MERS so U and he’s chosen to go without them right I mean it’s possible to do that that’s a choice yeah I mean part of it is that he just doesn’t have
(1:05:54) a ton of bone remaining due to U his the perodontal issues he had prior to that but you know absolutely I mean I’d much rather be without a couple sets of teeth and not dying of cancer uh than focused on well I just got to keep those teeth so I can chew so I mean that was a real Awakening for me and it so when we think about like how worried should we be I don’t know if it’s worried I don’t know if it’s concerned I think what I would encourage people to become is informed yes aware informed do what they want
(1:06:28) that even better so I think yes thank you for that word because aware like you have to be aware before you can become informed right and that’s the beauty of what you’re offering here and what I’ve been trying to share uh via Instagram and other social media uh methods is letting people know this is all accurate scientific documented information you it’s just not it’s just not being shared with you um so I encourage you to connect with us connect with your dentist let’s just all be asking more
(1:07:02) questions and you know Finding answers yeah so yeah it’s it’s an opportunity for awareness creation how about that yes beautiful and I I gonna have to once we’re done with this pandemic thing uh get a flight over to you and maybe make a visit to your office if I can’t find a dentist I can trust over here to absolutely look at what I got going on yeah we it’s amazing I mean probably a third to a half of all of our new patients now fly to see us which is blessed um but it’s wonderful because
(1:07:34) they can go back to their communities and share like hey 100% this profession will not change until the people you know who are supported by it become aware and ask for better right absolutely yeah simple truth but their dollar yeah put their money where their mouth is literally yeah um so you brought up about how you know Metals ending up in our mouth you know affect us what would people experience if they did have mercury fillings or titanium in plants that negative yeah like a negative effect from them yeah
(1:08:14) absolutely well um so with Mercury and just Short History lesson here um it’s kind of appropriate timing because it’s been about just about 200 years since Mercury fillings came on the market so start with Mercury um the um I think it was called like the National Association of dentists or something it was the the Ada of the time which had a different different name um when these came out they knew that putting mercury in people’s mouths was horribly unsafe right and and in good conscience they said look if you are to remain a member
(1:08:55) in good standing with our group you won’t put this in people’s teeth you you’ll do something else and so the pr Mercury dentists founded the American Dental Association it’s what still exists today and it caused the demise of the other one right because it was just you couldn’t you could not compete because people are unaware and you know they were told it’s a silver filling right well you know silver I’ve got silver plat Silver Spoons or you know I mean taking collidal silver we
(1:09:29) think silver is harmless exactly right and silver has absolutely clinical benefits Mercury not so much okay you know I mean no neurotoxin um and it’s interesting when we look at a lot of the European Union Nations who have said look we’re you know back then yes you know it was what we had today we have better materials um well we know Mercury even just coming from the the food we eat you know the fish we consume and that type of thing is poisonous a certain degree absolutely well I mean one of my favorite examples
(1:10:01) is if one of the lights in my office like the the compact fluorescent lights were to fall on the ground right which has like 0.5% the amount of mercury as one filling let alone 10 right one filling well we’ve got to like you know air out the place you know you got to get out you know get your hazmat suit on and clean it all it’s like really and we’re putting this stuff I think the average the average single filling in a person’s mouth has approximately a half a gram of mercury wow a half a gram right I mean and and
(1:10:39) the CDC and the World Health Organization would you know if you read the websites they will say there’s no known safe level of mercury in the body and we’re putting a half a gram of filling like that’s insane now I will say most people or most dentists that I know don’t choose to place it anymore thankfully but statistically we know that still half of the dentists in America do and that’s I that’s a lot of fillings right that’s a lot of mercury and they’re so it’s a cheaper ver or
(1:11:10) cheaper option is that why there’s keeping it it’s two things it’s cheap as all get out and um it is relatively technique insensitive meaning um as long as you can cut a dovetailed shaped uh you know shape into a tooth meaning it has to be wider at the base than it is at the top because you know Mercury fillings don’t stick to teeth you have to lock them in you can imagine all the healthy tooth structure you have to cut away to do that right I mean when they pop out we’re just swallowing them
(1:11:45) and that’s a whole another drama well yeah I mean frankly that swallowing a whole chunk might be better because you’ll pass it in 24 right God willing usually you do uh it’s that constant day-to-day low-level exposure leing unsafe right and who doesn’t get up in the morning and have a a hot tea right or a you know even a hot piece pizza or you know bowl of noodles something you’re warming the or grinding your teeth um you know all these things that create friction Andor just uh environmental warming you’re elevating
(1:12:19) your mercury vapor exposure right so so that’s Mercury uh not good um and so we we talked about like it’s not good putting in your mouth we want to remove it safely so find a smart certified dentist the other thing is that if you’ve had these in your mouth and some people have for 10 years 20 years 50 [Music] years that’s an awful lot of exposure where your body especially you know when we breathe it in which we do frequently um you know that gets absorbed by mostly fat based tissue and you think about what’s your brain made
(1:12:58) out of right right mostly fat so there are ways to detox your body from it and and I I’ve certainly seen some approaches which are kind of like Run and Gun like let’s dump it all I mean that’s not the way your body absorbed it I would not suggest doing that approach because you’re gonna overwhelm your body um so we try to find for our patients who are in that position you you know a good naturopath or a good nutritional therapist or somebody who’s Savvy with lifetime detox approaches like dietary
(1:13:33) modifications that will help your body release it over time yeah and some people find it more preferentially than others right so is an interesting tale you know when I was in my uh Integrative Medical Dental training over the last couple years we did um a Mercury test test where it was hair which you know a little tough for me but um hair test um urine and blood and my test came back very low now if you think about the fact that I’m exposed to Mercury more so than your average individual and I don’t have it
(1:14:14) in my mouth um it it speaks to the fact that I’m likely binding it well which is why you don’t see it being expressed out some other people like uh one of hygienist Mara who was studying with me you know she was showing higher levels which in some ways is a it’s a good thing to find because it says well your body’s getting rid of it right so so that’s good um couple other metals I would share with you yeah let’s talk about dental crowns right because one of the comments or the the phrases that
(1:14:49) people often hear when you go to the dentist right let’s say you’ve had that mercury filling in your tooth forever oh you need a crown right cracks gotten big because they ground the heck out of the tooth you you need a crown which I would say nobody needs a crown you know people don’t need teeth but they’re nice to have so historically like when I was in dental school more than 20 years ago we did not have all porcelain crowns um they just really I mean they existed they just weren’t ready for market yet
(1:15:18) so all porcelain crowns that we placed back then had a metal substructure and and because of kind of the unsightliness of those we used to grind the tooth down below the gum line and when we glue it onto the tooth the edge of that Crown would be tucked underneath the gum now what’s interesting is that that metal substructure uh it’s not like solid gold that your body is gonna be like oh cool you know gold we like gold um you know there would be like Palladium Cobalt uh some other metals within the alloy that
(1:15:54) you may or may not be sensitive to right no very few dentists are testing to find out to these Metals before we stick them in your body right so that’s a concern which then brings me to I mean thinking about really putting in your body uh titanium implants yeah that’s what I was thinking now uh I want to say and acknowledge that you know titanium implants have been available for over 40 years and many people have been well served by them um and titanium can work very well for you if you’re not sensitive to the alloy right I mean and
(1:16:31) I’m kind of sensitive to the subject because like you know when I went to have a new knee put in they didn’t make porcelain knees right so sometimes it’s the best option that you have um but if you are sensitive to anything within that titanium alloy such as and I think the most common component would be nickel right so many people are especially women they would be aware that well I’m nickel sensitive because every time I put in these cheap earrings my swells up not as many men probably are as exposed
(1:17:05) generally speaking um but I have seen patients mostly women so far where when we put in an implant and this is before we had zirconia implants available um where the body didn’t reject the implant but we started seeing symptoms like rashes or hives or tentis in the ears I mean I’ve seen some interesting things from the disruption that we caused by putting in a metal to which they were sensitive and we just didn’t know um not to mention the way that metal plays in uh the energy flow on your body you know
(1:17:46) you talk about if we want to get into the woow woo World a bit when you talk about Aura readings and that type of thing when you have a magnet on or something metal on you see the the the Chunk in your aura you know see the the yeah place where the energy is not flowing properly it’s amazing it’s just amazing just all this stuff probably why I’m so passionate about it my mind is blown every day um I will share that um zirconia implants have been on the market for about 10 years now and again it’s not like again it’s not there’s
(1:18:17) nothing that’s a Panacea not oh this just solves all of our problems right forever yeah if you’ve got Decay no problem we just take your teeth out and give you zerone impant I mean it’s not like but but I will say um I have seen for most patients for whom we’ve used them very good results tissue loves it right it’s it’s um it’s a ceramic so it’s not metallurgically active um it doesn’t carry a current so and and it’s on top of all that it’s it’s white right so coming out of your
(1:18:49) gum tissue tends to look better than a a metal yeah post so that’s kind of a benefit so that is our best bet thus far as far as have keeping having a tooth in that place if you have something that needs to be removed I don’t generally say best I would I would say it is uh certainly the most biologically compatible but best is a very subjective term so let’s say let’s say um it was your very front tooth that had had a root canal we decided to take it out we would have to consider like how are we
(1:19:24) going to create the very best shape possible and sometimes the best shape possible is only attainable using technology currently available with a titanium implant just because of the nature of how it all works now that being said next year five years 10 years down the road I mean I expect we’re going to see improvements in the zirconia World hope so yeah the titanium implant world has just had so much more time to do R&D stuff so but it’s it’s all it’s all coming uh I’m just glad that we have options and I will say this
(1:19:57) like oh handful of months ago my wife had a root canal on her upper right canine which was feeling fine everything was well um however it was on the energy Meridian of her liver and her liver enzymes kept looking you know getting more and more out of whack based on her blood work with her naturopath so ultimately she decided I just don’t want to mess with it let’s take it out so before we put an implant in I had her go to see a health care provider to do some muscle testing and I had them do muscle testing for seven different implants
(1:20:36) four of which were titanium three of which were zirconia and interestingly enough she tested well for two zirconia and two titanium so we ended up choosing the actual the same titanium that she has on her other canine which went bad a decade ago um my poor wife right you know but uh you know it’s it’s nice to know that you can ask the body’s energy field how whether something is compatible or not and that’s not my area of expertise I do refer out for that currently um but it’s absolutely something I so highly value
(1:21:15) doing with our patients yeah and again you know as we’re talking about some of these um alternative medicine roots and talking about someone who’s able to muscle test and read that type of thing people I’m sure there’s lots of Skeptics I’m always a skeptic and I think we all should be to some degree um are going that doesn’t sound like real science but I just you know and if you’re listening and you’re feeling that way I’d invite you to do your own research see what you come up with because that’s really the
(1:21:43) only way you’re G to get to decide what is true for you absolutely so we have some magic mob questions um and you kind of already covered this first one but maybe you can uh go into specific so Cassandra on Instagram ask how does our diet and gut health affect our oral health health oh so good so good so think of like like 100% it’s it’s almost everything like when Mara and I started our training in integrative biological care we were given two books one which was called power versus Force which is a
(1:22:22) phenomenal book just kind of talking about the energy of the universe okay and and our need to to appreciate that if we want to help people the other was called gut by Dr Julia Enders who’s a German physician younger physician phenomenal book so good we actually bought a copy for every one of our teammates we all it together we all book reviewed it together um so one of the common sayings that we had in this integrative College was you gotta poop good to look good yes so true we call ourselves pist here on the show it’s
(1:22:59) poop and period activists all about having a good menstrual flow and good pooping habits it’s your body saying it’s working yeah right I mean it detox ability absolutely as I mean as much as it makes me chuckle it’s it’s it’s so true um so I when I think about that learning process how appropriate that we started with gut health right so in the mouth is underappreciated as it might be um it is the opening to the whole gut track right right so and often times depending on what a person’s eating or sucking on or
(1:23:40) whatever sometimes things will spend a lot of time in the mouth so um if there’s something overly processed or sweet or acidic or I mean all these things have a an external influence on the teeth themselves but then let’s think about you know we Chomp Chom Chomp Chomp Chomp hopefully we have good saliva we mix our food with our salivary enzymes it starts going down our GI tract ultimately we hope to absorb the nutrients which then get into our bloodstream and then impact our teeth internally right so we have little blood
(1:24:18) vessels and you know veins and nerves and lymphatic vessels and all that inside every tooth which is kind of magic but there’s always this positive pressure within each tooth I mean we know they’re alive right how many of us have bitten into cold ice cream or something you know I mean that’s just the teeth saying I’m alive in here there’s vital um living tissue that constantly has a positive pressure of outward flow and even more underappreciated is the quality of our saliva which is a distillate from our own blood
(1:24:55) so if we think about like if our blood Health isn’t great because we’re not eating well because our we have a nutrient deficient diet how on Earth are we ever going to have saliva that’s of good quality to help us digest our Foods properly so it’s it’s a loop absolutely and that really resonates with me I know that when I had a really shitty diet growing up um you know being in school eating whatever they’re feeding us in school and uh just not having any any education on how to eat and nutrition
(1:25:27) and that and my my family the family I come from didn’t either so of course I was putting whatever tasted good in my mouth well my not only did my digestive tract my ability to detox poop um suffer but also I had cavities every time I would go to the dentist and my saliva was I was brushing my teeth regularly my I was FL you know all the things you’re supposed to be doing but my saliva did not have what it needed in order to fight off you know Decay process so and it’s it’s it’s such a catch 22 right
(1:25:58) because the stuff you’re putting into the mouth is you know negatively influencing you and then when it comes back around through the saliva and the blood flow it’s also not helping you I mean it’s yeah it’s it’s so of course you were probably hearing I’m imagining when you’d go to the dentist like well you know you need to brush and floss more no they were saying well because they could tell my gum health was on par as far as like I wasn’t you know bleeding during my hygienist
(1:26:28) appointments and stuff like that but it was well you just have soft teeth and you’re always I mean I remember a dentist telling me probably in the next 10 years you’ll have all your teeth will be root canals because you just haveth I remember like being like God I just said my genes are terrible you know thinking that it was that and as soon as I changed my diet and started focusing on nutrition yep not have a cavity sense what does because I’ve never even heard the term soft teeth yeah yeah it is a
(1:26:56) term that is used and it’s absolute baloney and I will I will say this I mean there are yes there are some very infrequent genetic abnormalities where um the the cells that are supposed to do the job of of you know manufacturing en anel as your teeth develop just don’t work properly and that’s but that’s like the total oneoff you know um I can’t tell you how many people I’ve met say well like they come in believing yeah which which presents a whole different level of energetic influence right our
(1:27:29) belief systems that well I’ve just got bad genetics and my teeth are soft it’s like tell me about your diet what and my favorite conversation is when was the last time you recall having a cavity right and if they say well gez you know I mean it’s probably been 25 years I say well about how long has it been since you know you’ve been on a relatively healthful diet it’s been about 25 years you I was like H okay you know maybe it wasn’t soft teeth after all right so yeah and I do remember you know this is slightly
(1:28:04) off topic but I remember when I was younger being told I have deep grooves in my teeth like my the insides of my MERS have deep grooves and that I would need to fill all of them just as a precautionary measure yeah luckily I didn’t but um I mean that would mean they would shave down my teeth fill something in there and create a a different slope which would change my jaw set and everything else I just incredible the things that are getting sold to us and literally that’s the word is sold this is about making
(1:28:35) money a lot of the time yeah sadly especially as and I mean I think that Jade was bringing up the issue earlier about insurance um connectivity and you know sadly we are seeing more and more dentists coming out of dental school and going into corporate Dental environments where the idea is Turn and Burn Dentistry you know no time is it’s the same thing it’s moving in the same model as Healthcare you know like right five minutes or eight minutes a patient and you cannot facilitate Optimal Health Care in that environment but that’s the
(1:29:13) direction that things are moving which is horrifying to me as somebody who’s come out and work my butt off to create an environment where all we do is facilitate Health right but it’s something we have to be aware of because again and I think Mercedes you were mentioning something about we choose with our dollars right when our employers are purchasing uh health care plans we have a say right that’s the point at which if they’re going to provide benefits that you know stand up make your voice heard say I would much
(1:29:45) rather have that thousand dollars a year in my own pocket to spend how I would prefer to do it rather than you directing me to some Clinic where nobody cares about my health yeah yeah yeah absolutely that’s such a hard that’s you know it’s a hard Bill to swallow I think for so many people because we’re being sold Insurance on every corner and being told that that’s what we need and we’re not safe without it you know that’s what we think and it’s just it’s just not true no so what are what diets do you
(1:30:16) see the best results with in your patients when it comes to overall oral health yeah so so I’ll share a few generalities these and then um maybe mention a a book that I think would be perfect for every listener um so it kind of boils down to like a diet that that is more Whole Foods based um and staying away from processed junk I mean that’s that’s kind of the the simplistic version um the book I’m thinking of there’s a book called The Dental diet written by a guy named Dr Steven Lynn who is an
(1:30:56) Australian um dentist and he reviews the the research and work done by a guy named Dr Weston Price and for those people who are like nutrition Savvy and you know they would probably know who Dr Weston Price was um but Dr Price did a lot of uh research throughout the world looking at cultures where in the native culture like people just didn’t develop tooth decay and they they also coincidentally had these beautifully broad arches plenty of space for their teeth to fall in line and and it didn’t matter if they
(1:31:32) were you know from um Alaska or the Andes or whatever if they were eating a nonprocessed native diet they would develop these healthy arches and teeth that didn’t Decay um interestingly enough you also notice that those in the same communities who were exposed to the processed Western diet this is like back in the 1910s 1920s things would all start start falling apart the teeth would Decay uh The Arches within a generation would be you know shrunken and there wouldn’t be enough room for teeth and part of that’s nutritional
(1:32:10) part of that is also functional like how we use our Jaws our tongue like you know to chew food um so anyway Dr Lynn does a phenomenal job reviewing Dr Price’s work and makes a lot of practical recommendations particular for those people who are wanting to make that shift out of processed food-based diet into more um whether you’re buying it at Whole Foods or making it at home and the uh probably the latter third or quarter of his book is all recipes right so it’s kind the Whole Food’s diet it’s hard to
(1:32:46) go wrong um you also have to use common sense I mean I’ve met a lot of folks who you know they come in and they share the oh you know I’m a green smoothie junkie and you know y yada and we find out like well you’re they’re still showing signs of risk right maybe U part of what we do is we actually swab clean teeth and look at the bacteria that are living on them and those sorts of things and if we find that their acidic risk is still high we have to dig deeper these folks are like well I mean I’ve been sipping on lemon
(1:33:18) water all day for the last three years and you’re like I have right and I mean so we think about like is your is your saliva able to constantly neutralize the a the acids to which we’re exposing our mouth right so if you’re a um a lemon juice and you know apple cider vinegar type of person and you just you know put it down quickly very little uh length of time that you’re exposing your mouth you’re probably not going to have problems right but if you constantly sip on it and there’s just more acid more
(1:33:54) acid more acid ultimately your teeth will lose that battle if that makes sense um or it could be kombucha or you know what what have you there’s a lot of different sources but anything acidic or sweet if it’s done over time consistently like a lot of frequency that usually adds up to um high risk for tooth breakdown right so we I mean I tell people even if they’re like a Diet Coke drinker God forbid like if you’re not ready to give up the diet coke okay like is it possible to shrink that down
(1:34:32) to 15 minutes instead of three hours so it’s not just what we eat but how we eat it that makes a huge difference yeah and I think such a big piece of that and I’m sure it speaks to to it in that book you’re mentioning uh because I think this is something what Dr Weston Price speaks to in his other work is focusing on our microbiome you know focusing on the the variety of colonies of bacteria that we have in our gut because that’s going to relate to what’s in our saliva and you know the ability for us to break
(1:35:07) down food properly so that we don’t have the acid from our stomach coming up into our you know all kinds of things that are related there so focusing on the um feeding a variety of different bacteria gut bugs what I call them is a huge part of that practice and so I think that means that every diet is going to be different person to person because your bacteria set is different personto person so so true and and I think you just brought up a point which I mean I just have to touch on it because it’s so
(1:35:40) significant you know in this crazy Western Medical model that we are exposed to you know when the first uh solution to you know acid reflux is well let’s turn off your acid how on Earth will you ever digest your proteins right if you don’t have acid in your stomach which then throws off the microbiome which you know you see it like snowballs rolling down the hill and I mean proton pump inhibitors an H2 blockers and an acids and such are like it’s ridiculous the level at which those things are being used on a daily
(1:36:19) basis it’s frightening that people go to their doctor and I was one of them so you know don’t feel shame for this if you’re listening and feel this way but go to their doctor usually their Western doctor and get you know prescribed whatever it is for their uh heartburn for instance or indigestion or ulcers or whatever they got going on in there and go home and take it and they don’t they don’t look into it they don’t figure out why this what are the side effects here what is act what is
(1:36:50) this actually doing how does this medicine actually work on my body and yeah if we did just a little bit of research we would find out that these are not all what they’re cracked up to be maybe they’ll get you through the day but long term you’re actually usually doing more damage in a lot of these cases than good um I think that’s a huge one though I’m glad you you know you stayed on it a little bit because uh figuring out the amount of acid we have in our stomach in order to digest our
(1:37:19) food which needs to be extremely acidic is so freaking important and it’s the number one thing people are uh not just neglecting but com but doing the opposite they’re putting an ant acid in there and creating a bigger problem yeah it’s amazing whoever’s listening I’d invite you to look deeper into that you could listen to our episode with Dr Rob which we get into that deeper so one more magic mob question Keith from Instagram asks when it comes to toothpaste what are the ingredients we should make sure are excluded or
(1:37:52) included uh well I’m going to provide a resource because there’s there’s just too many options um uh and I came to this you guys probably know the are familiar with the environmental working group um they have an app called I think it’s the app is called healthy living and I love this app right you load up the app you go to your you know natural store or you know CVS or whatever right and you pull up the toothpaste you scan the barcode and it gives you a relative toxicity number one through 10 one one
(1:38:30) would be safe right and as you can imagine there aren’t a lot of you know ewg certified Safe products out there um but you know certainly like you’re the things you if you see it marketed on television like you know Listerine scope Crest blah blah whatever you know whitening anti whatever probably not safe right the amount of chemicals uh especially like like the trick sand that was out in the Colgate stuff 20 years ago I mean we find that these things that are uh bacterially inhibitory it’s not like it’s limited well it’s just
(1:39:10) going to treat the bacteria on your gums right I mean it treats the bacteria everywhere in your mouth and some of those bacteria you know we need right for sure we’re creating a disruption or creating a disbiosis our mouth you can be guaranteed that’s going to go Downstream um so anyway I I just offer that up you know to use the app I mean I would share personally uh I use the Json Brand Power uh what is it Power white or power smile peppermint for two reasons one it’s super low on the ewg’s app so the risk
(1:39:50) factor is low uh and it tastes great um you know I mean like if it tastes like garbage and believe me I’ve tried a lot of stuff you know bent night clay this and that you know it’s like you know sea salt um you know seems like you rub it on a steak or something you know not for your teeth but it’s got to taste good in order for people most people to use it um and I also think about like what’s the significance of toothpaste when we’re we’re exposed to it for less than five minutes a day yeah
(1:40:23) right so so really it’s like I encourage people to think about what’s the quality of my saliva and how do I create it through a great diet how do I make sure that I’m absorbing well you know through through chewing effectively through not messing with my acidic you know levels in my stomach all these things right um and some for some of us and I work with a clinical nutritionist myself I find it to be hugely valuable um in terms of like how to tweak my supplementation so that I’m optimizing my health um you
(1:40:57) know I would encourage people to to do that because you know why not right why not optimize it if we can what about um what are your thoughts on like charcoal toothpaste or um remineralizing toothpaste um are either of those something you recommend well so it goes along the same lines of like if you’re only exposed to it for five minutes a day um well let’s use this because this is a common a common scenario that I’m exposed to you know uh someone comes in sipping a a a water bottle with lemons in it so I know that there’s acidic
(1:41:36) exposure constantly like you know I’ve been using this remineralizing toothpaste and I asked them jokingly because why not have some fun with it like are you using the toothpaste more frequently than you’re you sipping on your water like no I mean use it once and twice a day it’s like okay so we have to think of the whole picture so it’s like you’re stripping every time you’re sipping you’re stripping and you’re sipping and stripping and you’re only remaning twice a day but the whole
(1:42:03) rest of the day you’re stripping off layers and layers yeah I mean that’s but if you’re gonna use a toothpaste might as well use one that’s beneficial well certainly and I don’t think that you know exposing yourself to chemicals that we know have toxic effects like no sense in that which is like I don’t need to be an expert in toothpaste I just know what app to use because the environmental working group has way more scientists that are a lot smarter at that stuff than me so I just kind of use that and you can use it for
(1:42:29) bar soap you can use it for hair shampoo and conditioner all this I mean again as a bald guy I don’t need that but my needs are simple you know toothpaste uh so yeah it’s a great app okay and uh before we move on to our staple questions I did want to kind of circle back on um something you mentioned which was the 3D cone uh beam Imaging x-ray which is what you guys use to just first diagnose what’s going on in our mouths right can you go into how we go about uh detecting stealth infections and what’s going on with our
(1:43:06) teeth in an office like yours absolutely so I would make some general statements which I believe I could I can certainly support them scientifically as well as my own experience one is that if you have had whole cut into your teeth or uh you know the entire tooth cut down in a crown put on your tooth or root canals in your teeth like anything that’s modified the natural structure of the tooth you now have a union between something that is not you and you right so let’s take a crown for instance when that gets glued onto the tooth again you
(1:43:53) take the super hard crown and glue it onto a substructure which is 70% collagen and then you compress it over time um you will always be experiencing slight leakage under that Crown it’s it’s not um I mean all dentists know that uh we observe it when we cut the old Crown off and we see like ew you know people will say like oh it’s stinks right I mean that’s so gross but it just is what it is um so if you’ve had any of these things right or even uh implants that have not been wellmaintained
(1:44:28) these environments will house bacteria oftentimes pathogenic types um and you have to you have to go looking for them but if you don’t understand like let’s say like like imagine me 15 20 years ago uh you know if I didn’t understand it at that time which I didn’t that root canals could negatively influence your health that you know know chronic mild infection around implants it’s going to negatively affect your health I would just be patting you on the back and telling you oh you know everything looks
(1:45:01) good so the ability to determine where you do have stealth infection has a lot to do with the experience and open-mindedness of the provider right and there’s PL I mean there’s lots of dentists out there that um are on this wavelength or are coherent with the the what I’m sharing today um but it does take a little effort to find them because you know it’s going against the grain right it’s not this isn’t the traditional stuff yeah and I I I was just going to say regarding wisdom teeth you brought up a
(1:45:35) bunch about wisdom teeth but do you recommend people don’t remove them at all or what do you recommend the processes there yeah that’s a good question I mean I would say that um if you have the opportunity to develop room for them which starts when the day you’re born right like the significance of breastfeeding cannot be understated for so many reasons but from a like a dental health standpoint and uh like a skeletal development standpoint that pushing up of the tongue which helps broaden out your arches is partly what helps you
(1:46:10) create space for these teeth you know 20 years later wow so if we just you know go out you know this wasn’t working or you know nursing was hard or we go with a bottle and and that’s all they’re exposed to do um it absolutely will modify the shape of their Dental arches so just to clarify on that because I have never heard about that before is it the suction that the kid has to create in order to get the milk to come from the mother that’s not happening when they’re having a bottle that’s creating
(1:46:41) what you’re talking about here right so I mean um you know I’m not a breastfeeding expert but I have two daughters you know my my wife had two children at one you know one point in time so you know if we look at the dynamic functioning of what a newborn or a young baby has to do to latch onto a breast how they use all the muscles of the mouth and how the tongue has to you know work to latch on and create the rhythmic motion to express the milk from the breast like that’s a very complicated um system right but we’re also designed to
(1:47:21) do it for many reasons yeah so if you think about uh how the Dynamics of a bottle works it’s very different um it’s generally speaking a lot more passive yeah which means the child tends to like suck around that fake nipple and the milk will come in way more passively so if the tongue never has to push up and push out on that upper arch of the jaw it will end up you know you’ve seen the look like when kids kind of suck on a thumb or a finger and the arch takes the form literally of the fingers that have
(1:47:58) been in there over time wow right form follows function so if the function is I’m latched on to you know a breast that’s Eng gorged which is large and all this like you have to fit a lot in your mouth and you have to do work to make that happen I uh I don’t have any mullers I mean wisdom teeth I don’t have any wisdom teeth and they didn’t show up in the X-ray as being in in my gums either so um congratulations yeah what about something a little more simpler though like people who have chronic bad breath
(1:48:30) what is that a typically stem from wait hold on wait before we go there we didn’t finish the wisdom tee piece just about what do we do with the wisdom teeth Jade will we ask that again when we do that so that we can edit that back I just want to make sure we get that piece in oh absolutely um no I think that so yes if you can keep them there there are a lot of good reason reasons to keep your wisdom teeth um I absolutely see people every day where you know like we see a number of new patients a day where you can tell those
(1:49:04) those wisdom teeth are either never coming in because they’re sideways or sometimes we don’t even worry about it right like yeah you know it’s just not a it’s not a concern if I don’t anticipate them needing to or coming out on their own in a weird angle and just leave it be right but sometimes they will present and this can be quite frequently honestly they present in weird angles where maybe a little part of the tooth sticks through and and and because the gums that are around the head of that
(1:49:36) tooth make kind of like a hoodie for lack of a better term uh if you get food that gets trapped down there and that creates an infection you know now we’ve got a big burning fire to put out and that’s not good so sometimes we we may you know cons like now in this case it’s going to make more sense to take them out the trick is if they don’t heal effectively which as I mentioned earlier I mean some studies show that as many as 75% of those extraction sites will trap infection inside the bone which is not a
(1:50:12) good deal um you know that may be affecting your health for let’s say have them taken out and you’re 18 and you’re 78 and you can’t understand why you’ve had you know hypertension for 40 years but you’ve been treating it with medicine which is also affecting your health otherwise like we’re just never thinking about what was the cost right so it’s there are ways to prevent it absolutely okay thank you for that absolutely I’m just gonna move my previous question to here so uh so what
(1:50:43) about chronic um bad breath yeah so um as you can imagine you know there are a lot of potential sources for bad breath um I would say the most common that I see are um periodontal neglect and what I mean by that is let’s say you know person feels like I’m young I’m healthy you know I’m busy in my life I’m doing stuff like you know I don’t notice my gums bleed that often when I brush you know I don’t even floss because you know when I do floss it tends to bleed too much so they just go
(1:51:21) on about their life for three years five years 10 years all this time they’re building up tartter and the analogy i t typically use is let’s imagine you owned a boat we went and we put it in the river down here and we left it for 10 years right we never took it out of the water we never cleaned it off what do you imagine would be growing under the surface right go oh yeah probably some Barnacles and what have you well that’s what happens in the mouth right I mean it’s the plaque that builds up when we
(1:51:50) don’t have professional cleaning and and let’s be honest some people um are better served by cleanings than others some people don’t build up much Tarter right and some it’s just not in budget for them and yeah you know we don’t have free health care so right yeah absolutely um you know but if it builds up it it is like a snowball rolling down a hill right so given more and more time it becomes more pathogenic um it tends to stink more um and usually if you’re noticing somebody that has some funky breath you
(1:52:28) know I mean I like to use technical terms like funky breath you know you go you know what do their gums look like when they laugh and smile and usually you can spot it from a mile away they tend to be red and inflamed another source which is um fairly common would be like tonsil stones so you know think about uh if somebody is chronically mildly inflamed maybe maybe it’s dietary L based right uh they’re exposed to stuff that they’re sensitive to and they’re just not aware of it so their body is in this kind of
(1:52:59) chronically hyperinflate and those uh tonsils are always a little bit bulbous those CPS in there can build up uh like very dense bacterially Laden it’s almost like tartar but in your in your tonsils right and they can stink so I mean it could be that um trick is like just going to see a dentist to take a look and figure out why can you clean that type of thing out or what do you guys do in that case with the tongue yeah absolutely I mean there with with the teeth there there are a lot of different methods traditionally
(1:53:37) what a dentist would say and some of these phrases by the way are just horrible but you know you go to a Trad traditional office you got tartar built up and you haven’t been in a few years they’ll tell you you need scaling and root planing which doesn’t sound good to anybody wow so usually you run right right you know yeah you well you know let me think on that you know let me talk to my husband and I’ll get back to you then you never come back um so the the ways that we go about addressing that in our practice
(1:54:06) typically would be um to use some type of oxidative process first so we might uh use uh like some customized tray systems the ones we use are called pero protect trays and imag imagine being able to put trays over your teeth that housed uh like a a hydrogen peroxide gel which start to break down the tartar chemically right um or we might use uh some rinses that have like oxidized saline something that will oxidize that tarar structure so that it becomes much easier for us to remove with ultrasonic instruments additionally a huge part of
(1:54:49) our practice is the utilization of Dental Laser Technology so that was probably the first technology I got into back in 2002 was Dental Lasers and simply because it targets the stuff we don’t want and it respects the health of the stuff we want to keep right so it’s like well might as well use that so whenever we’re doing gum therapy we’re going to utilize lasers because it’s less invasive and more effective so there are absolutely techniques uh that help make it comfortable I mean gosh for
(1:55:20) almost anybody we can come up with a solution that’ll fit the budget um so there there are ways it’s a matter of just you know seeking it out and as we know I mean gum health is Paramount to good cardiovascular health right we have inflammation here we have inflammation here yeah and again it just sounds like so much of it starts with the gut and with what we’re eating what we’re putting in our mouth whether that’s even cigarettes and abely yeah okay we got we got work to do fam all right so there’s a few short
(1:55:51) questions we like to ask everyone who comes on the show first off if you could hug your younger self right now what would you say um so there’s probably a lot of things I could think to say the um the thing that resonates with my heart is I would probably tell my younger self quite just very simply that I love you yeah how old I mean we all need to hear that probably every day but how old were you envisioning when that question came to you I’m Pro I’m seeing like my high school and college self okay if you could have the whole world
(1:56:34) read one book which would it be you’ve given us already a lot a lot this is so good so um okay so you’ll find like when I find a good book like I tend to talk about it a lot um and I tend to bring it back to my team yeah so um you know I work with with uh 11 other human beings who are phenomenal human beings I mean I’m so blessed taking me 20 years to build this team but it’s amazing like what the work we get to do and so I like to bring them along with me and they’ll learn my Learning Journey
(1:57:09) yeah so interestingly uh my lead hygienist and I when we were studying with the a IMD we were in the New Jersey airport waiting to fly home and like I was kind of looking for a book to read and she says hey check out this book um I read it a while ago it’s called the for agreement so I look it up on Amazon or whatever have you read that book Yeah we actually had on Don Miguel Ruiz Jr on the show and he’s and and also Heather asamara who’s both their work is all based in the the four agree that totech
(1:57:40) wisdom so you know more than I do you’ve interviewed him but that I mean honestly those Four Agreements which of course you know soon as I got off the plane and went home I had to tell my wife and daughters about this like how amazing it was but again kind of as a student of psychology as my first professional Endeavor I appreciated what he shared so much um and it’s become part of our ethos and our communication style here in the practice um I think if everybody were to read The Four Agreements like
(1:58:12) what a magical world of communication we would start to embody yeah if we could really were able to apply it yeah apply it we read a lot of things what but no it is a it’s such a beautiful foundational just piece of wisdom those Four Agreements are really the core of what we need to to uh move from as humans in communicating with other humans and that’s what we are we’re social beings well I’ve I’ve started to find myself even U like if I’m if I’m having kind of that you know that
(1:58:48) energetic disturbance you start to have in your core yeah I’m not you know I’m not feeling my good vibe right now I’ve been working on training myself to ask like all right which are the agreements am I not you know in touch with right now and it might be that I’m assuming something and as soon as I can objectify that’s like oh I can let it go yeah which is just it’s so powerful that’s really powerful I needed to hear that today so thank you for that reminder absolutely um if you could whisper one
(1:59:21) phrase to everyone on the planet it what would it be I would whisper if I wow that what a concept right if I could whisper one thing to every person on the planet it would be that God loves you and that you were designed for a purpose um and and I’m not here to Define what you know God or the you know power of the universe means for any other person it’s just to know that you are loved if we all felt that in our hearts every morning when we woke up uh I think I think how we approach life and how we approach other peoples and the ways in
(2:00:05) which we desire to be connected with other human beings would be so different um maybe would we wouldn’t have to have our way be the only way I think there would be some power in that yeah yeah absolutely it’s beautiful before we let go where can people find you online Okay um thank you for allowing me the opportunity to share that um so my website is my you know blogit dentalcare.
(2:00:36) com um there’s a lot of good information there we uh just launched our ask BDC uh platform so you know want to ask us questions that’s a good good place to find us um if I could ask everybody who is going to listen listen to this podcast to please follow me on Instagram my handle is blet Dental Care um you put out some really great information there too I enjoy following you thank you so much um that’s how we found you thank you it seriously it has become a I mean this was the fluki thing that I never
(2:01:13) would have imagined but it I I spend so much time you know putting together people’s stories of Health transformation and also sharing information that is just it’s all out there but we as dentists don’t go looking in journals of Toxicology and all this stuff for information right so the other thing I would ask people to do is once you’re following us please share our handle with everybody you know because we talked about earlier until the general public becomes aware of the fact that what has been
(2:01:51) done in their mouth for many people is negatively impacting their health they would never know to ask for something different so and then the same thing is true on Facebook it’s you know just look under blet dental care on Facebook um yeah beautiful awesome thank you so much we really appreciate the work you’re doing in bringing light to a subject that again is not easy for people to look at because we’ve been taught a whole different direction for the years of Our Lives most of us anyway um so I’m just so glad to have been able
(2:02:28) to talk to someone today who is doing that work it’s got to be tough um but it is definitely brought a light to Jaden My Life um and we’re just really proud to know you so thank you yeah thank you so much absolutely should should you ever want to you know chew the fat of of oral health care and systemic connection again please reach out um this this has been a a true pleasure and I’m just so grateful for the work that you’re doing thank you thank you we will I’m going to set up an appointment as soon as we get
(2:03:01) out of this pandemic to come so we’ll figure that out y thank you all right so we will um send you of course you know let you know exactly when this is going to air and we’ll send you the promos that we make from this video and maybe if we do get to make it into the full YouTube video we’ll send you that link as well all that good stuff thank you so much got the great work you’re doing you two are awesome thank you we appreciate it abut we’ll talk to you soon all right bye bye by all right that was a a lot of
(2:03:35) information on oral health I know that was extensive but hey you know what that’s what we’re doing here on the show is trying to get informed on stuff that we just aren’t thinking about that could potentially be the most positive influence on our health and we both have magic tricks on oral health it’s related to it so um what’s yours so mine is to it’s pretty simple get a water pick so you guys may have seen a water what a water pick is it’s just this little tiny uh like I want to call like a dental
(2:04:10) instrument but it’s hooked up to a water source you can get one that goes on your uh counter with in your bathroom and you put some water in and it pumps it out in a high uh velocity so it’s kind of like you’re pressure washing your your gums with it and what it does is it it uh pushes all the gunk that’s in your gum line that’s really hard to get to with a toothbrush or flossing it pushes that all out of underneath your gums and the little perk there too is if you get one that is um for your shower so I have one
(2:04:44) that actually hooks into my shower uh and you have to you know you’ll have to follow directions I think I bought mine on Amazon for like 40 bucks something like that yeah but you basically connect it to your shower head and there’ll be a little um KN valve that you turn on and off so that it pushes the water through the line for the pick that way when you’re spraying all those gunk out of your gums it doesn’t matter where where it goes it doesn’t go all over the mirror or anything it goes in your
(2:05:13) shower so it’s not a big deal and for me it has been a huge um piece of my oral hygiene and B big increase for me there I know JD were talking about um you know worrying about chronic bad breath and things like that when people are dealing with that issue I think this is a critical piece of that because like Dr blet was saying we get stuff stuck in our gums we get this tart to buildup so I think a water pick is a really good tool does not replace a dentist by any means it does not replace a biological dentist but it does um give you some
(2:05:44) assistance in cleaning out the bacterias that might be hiding where you don’t want yeah I had never heard of one so I’m excited to um purchase one uh my magic trick is um it’s slightly related I I um because coffee stains our teeth and then we you know feel the need to whiten our yeah and then we feel the need to whiten our teeth because we’ve stained it and you know that chemicals yeah yeah so um so something that I I do is I use a reusable metal straw for my coffee so that my coffee is not staining
(2:06:18) my teeth or whatever tea I’m going to drink and because that’s a hot beverage and it makes your um straw really hot um that was something I learned the hard way uh what I decided to do is to just stick it in the freezer and then that way when you stick it in your hot beverage it not only makes your beverage to the temperature of um being able to drink it right away but it also U makes the straw warm to the touch and not cold so that’s my little freezer yeah and use a metal straw okay I like that so that’s
(2:06:50) my little diver yeah I think that helps get it past your uh you know ripping all the enamel off your teeth when you’re drinking something acidic especially yeah by the way coffee is acidic guys just FYI I know we have a million coffee drinkers out there yeah all right magic mbers thank you so much for tuning in and taking this journey with us if this episode held some magic for you please share it with your friends and family this would mean so much to us and don’t forget to join us on our Instagram page
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