(00:01) [Music] jade’s trying her hardest that looks great did you get the mic picture out yeah does it i just i just hooked it in yeah that sounds better i think so does this does that sound way better did you click the the little arrow and just make sure that it’s selected yeah so i just it’s i just hit blue snowball and then it connected perfect that’s all and then does it sound way better say that again does it sound better yeah your lighting is hard to see you kind of but are you getting like well if you i don’t know what you’re
(00:45) sitting at but if the light can be in front of you instead of behind you it’s best yeah i’m in a high rise so there you go that’s way better that side is that better yeah you looked like an angel before just like just the i always look like an angel now you look like even more of an angel wait do i need to put sunglasses on no but this is pretty awesome you must admit you kind of do i don’t know if we’re gonna rock this the whole interview i don’t know what happened to jade let’s see she fell off
(01:13) this call what happened oh there she is i don’t know why it does not it really scares me i know does it just blank out sometimes completely okay um dingo can you you can hear jade jade you can hear everybody we’re all good i think on that end hopefully uh yeah okay jade i’m sorry about last week oh that’s okay um okay let me turn off this thing all right um i’m hitting record on audacity okay you want to test it real quick i
(02:16) already did whenever i see your face pop up by my screen it’s too much it’s funnier when i’m serious yeah no just stay serious i’m waiting for this ac to turn off why is it taking so long remember when we used to have our guests turn their ac off i still should but we just don’t know the only thing testing one two [Music]
(03:28) man i just got the i just went through my dms and like i got like this like this girl i know some some i i it must be a fake account was like this girl i know his boyfriend killed my friend please help what the [ __ ] [ __ ] weird right do you have a lot of weird stuff like that like sometimes i can’t take you serious right now oh we were supposed to already be wearing this when you signed on how this has to be a surprise jade looks like she’s dj’ing it like what’s that guy on my weekend at bernie’s
(04:13) i am weekend at bernie’s no the guy on um mad tv or no saturday night live when he used to do those skits where he would sing he’d do a music video i can’t remember his name but that’s bingo seems to know the answer anyway i don’t know the answer i don’t know the answer this is our dingo look it’s a little warm so we might have to take it off pretty soon here it’s also uncomfortable under the headphones well yeah because the sunglasses hit the headphones yeah it gets really uncomfortable maybe it’s not it’s not
(04:44) that’s what i really look like it’s a good look right you’re pulling it off um so that you could take it seriously because some of these questions are too serious yeah and these make you tired i’m taking it all we just needed that for a clip we’re gonna probably use at some point to promote this all right we should get you with your glasses on though for one snap just like a full panel oh he’s getting up okay put yours back on jade just kidding [ __ ] i need the bucket hat yeah they’re over my headphones is funnier oh
(05:32) that’s that looks even better oh i’m sweating in here i came from a run straight up straight from this straight to this all right let’s see oh it’s perfect look at us look at us look at us i can’t even put my headphones on all right we are the trio right now we’re the goddess or the dingo band we’re not sure but it’s for the dingo band we’re all of the above jade with the hat over your headphones it’s looking real good okay um yeah listening audience hopefully you get a piece of this but
(06:27) hopefully you get to see it on instagram or something we are all wearing the dingo look right now yeah i like that you guys showed up yeah in solidarity right yeah and then i showed up looking like a homeless man all right don’t it a homeless man that’s been a burning man for like like two hours long i’ve actually been told that before today i have amazing okay i’m taking this off though because it’s too hot you guys did good let’s get going on the actual podcast guys like can we get serious for a
(07:08) minute it’s bright okay just got real bright all right all right you want to start yeah that’s what you look like jay sadly so kidding oh my goodness okay so what we’re going to do is i’m going to read an intro for you and then we’ll get into the questions and all that mercedes i’ll be right back one second okay just kidding jade has two toddlers so we struggle once in a while with that i like that that’s why she has to be in bed at 9 30.
(07:48) literally she has to be up before seven in austin so that’s 5 a.m our time that’s crazy yeah no okay are you gonna do kids i don’t have any do i i don’t have any kids but do you are you do you want to do i want kids yeah i want kids well i kind of illegitimately picked up three kids this year so oh yeah you’re yeah foster daddy from afar essentially pretty much [Laughter] who are they my brother’s kids oh what’s going on well my brother passed away in january so there were three kids left so there was a nine-year-old a five-year-old a
(08:21) three-year-old wow and so what’s your role right now in their lives i mean i like rodroni bro he was my only brother and um i know just kind of been supportive and been there for again no worries wow well we’ll get into that more when we get going here because i definitely want to ask you about that that’s interesting um okay our guest today is a man of many talents entering the world of professional snowboarding in his early teens when he immigrated from australia to america on his own since age 15 he spent much of
(09:00) his time couch hopping and struggling to quote unquote make it in his early years in the snow sports industry his story unravels though through a series of highs lows and reinventions that say as much about his resilience as it does about the land of opportunity his story plays out in he’s had his hand in it all from helping build the very popular snowboarding glove and apparel company grenade from the ground up to his transition from snowboard personality to tv personality where he’s known globally for his tv
(09:30) series the adventures of danny and the dingo as well as his extensive tv hosting resume including hosting the mtv music awards to being largely recognized as one of the faces of monster energy now at only 33 years old he’s a bit of a living legend and in this new chapter of his life he’s highly involved with mentoring kids of all ages by sharing his own story of battling depression and thoughts of suicide in this episode we plan to explore all of what brought this man from a limited mind state of it’s all about me to his
(10:02) new more expansive mantra how can i serve others please welcome luke trembeth aka the dingo to the magic hour [Laughter] how are you doing i’m my voice is already hoarse because i’ve been cracking up laughing because of our outfits for this [ __ ] wait so did you guys have those outfits ready when we first started the entire time and we were crying like with laughter i mean for the listening audience we um were going to interview dingo last week and we were wearing our dingo outfits our hat and glasses and everything
(10:43) in full effect and then he had something go on at the office and couldn’t make it so just jane and i staring at each other and then we had to rehearse something else and i think we kept them on that’s great we didn’t know if you’re going to pop in or not yeah well i tried i’m here now though i’m here now yeah and by the way does anyone call you luke or everybody calls you dingo at this point it’s like uh it’s like a mix you know like with with with find your grind and it being so educational and like so left field of
(11:20) the industry that i was like raised in i’d say essentially um i have an email essentially that has my real name in it and and and when i meet people um and when we’re on conference calls and whatnot we use the word luke um just so it’s not confusing or we don’t have to explain why there’s a dingo in like an education meeting about you know um all sorts of things but it’s it listen it gets confusing but yeah no like you know my mom calls me dingo and i think a lot of my friends do and um i i respond to both but like early on
(11:57) it was just yeah the dingo i think for a long time pretty like social media and pre those days like when they were just magazines and tv it was it was like one of those things where people really didn’t know my name um now i’m pretty loose about it i think i actually just i added it to my instagram because it’s easier if people if they want to search or do whatever they got to do it’s just just google my real name it’s simple and i think everything you need to find out about pops up it’s not
(12:22) like i’m trying to be this mysterious like character anymore and i think i think it was a name that i used so how i first got it it was the first full page spread in stormwater magazine when i was like 14 years of age and it said the dingo um and like previously that year it was like i’d first moved to america and my friends were calling me like dingo wallaby kangaroo all these like weird australian names and then the dingo kind of stuck but the first full-page ma print of me that came out in snowboarder
(12:51) magazine just said the dingo and from like 14 years of age it was the dingo cool well we’re gonna definitely dive into some some deeper topics here um but i wanted to mention to our listeners for anyone who doesn’t know you or know what you look like or your style you basically started the classic what i’m going to call the classic snowboarder look and he’s got the long hair i usually rock sunglasses and a hat and it’s very specific look so when did that iconic dingo look become official i think
(13:22) i don’t know it’s kind of weird like there was a period where i think there was just a few of us that looked like that and the next thing you know like everything i think it was around like 2006 i think that’s when it kind of like was adapted um and and it’s funny now because like as i’m older i’ll like go to x games or go to these events and the kids today still like they all dress the same it’s like they dressed like we dressed back then so it’s it’s pretty funny and the long
(13:51) hair thing kind of like stuck out but i’d say like 2006 and it’s it’s weird to me to like look at that you know because and even back in the day like the face mask thing started because i didn’t want to get sunburned yeah so then i started putting a bandana and then er ended this t-shirt and then like sean white like stole the sleeve idea from me and then started wearing the sleeve over his face but that all started from like just not trying to have a goggle tan yeah because i was in the snow so much i had like a
(14:19) permanent goggle tan so i was just trying to not get a goggle tan and then it turned into this whole other thing but it’s just trend setting it’s kind of weird yeah it’s kind of cool yeah it’s fun it’s definitely cool it’s cool because like there were some kids that have like done interviews like like big ones after like the olympics and stuff and they’ve all like they still note me for it so it’s like like sage cuts broken those people so it’s it’s like an honor you know it’s like it’s
(14:45) it’s such a part of the industry now it’s cool yeah yeah so bring us back before being the dingo was even on the horizon what are some of the highs and lows that stick out to you as you’ve made your way from your childhood self to today you know like i i really think that we can i came from like a regular like working class family in australia and and like the things that stick out to me are like not not not positives you know like my father left me and my older brother and my mom when we were pretty
(15:15) young i was nine at the time my brother was 14 and i think that was really tough you know and and and to have to deal with a separation at a young age and the way that it it kind of happened you know like dad had left to get a better job and listen like my dad when he was at his peak was the one that would take us camping got me into skiing snowboarding um i started skiing at like three because of my dad and and and sort of my brother and i got into snowboarding because of my dad and all these things but you know he would take his camping
(15:45) and he would rip it out rivers out of school to put us on the boat and and go fishing and and then all of a sudden he was kind of gone and i think that was like my first like real heartache um that i dealt with at like a really young age so like it’s weird when i look back on my memories of how i got to america and how it all kind of happened it was definitely a little bit of pain you know and but without that i don’t think it i don’t think it would have happened because you know a lot of people don’t
(16:09) know that my mom i i was junior national champion when i was really young i think i was like 11 or 12. um so i started traveling internationally on our summer break which is america’s winter break so it was like vice versa but it kind of got to the point where like the us team wanted me to come in and and and start training in america and um you know my dad had been gone like four years or whatnot and my brother like had had his own issues and he had just turned to 18 to move out of the house and i had this like kind of
(16:40) you know weird opportunity to to come to american train but my mom sold the house and like sold everything and had to come with me in the beginning to do it and and she did and and it was all it was it was like looking back on it’s all kind of it all happened so quickly but you know my brother was like yeah like take the opportunity and my mom really like gave up her life to like pursue my dream and and we were all kind of like going through this kind of struggle at a time i remember like being in the ho we were still in a hotel
(17:09) in in steamboat springs colorado and mum just like what the [ __ ] am i doing and i was just like oh i don’t know but we were over we we’d made it to america and you know like it was it was it all yeah it all happened it all happened pretty pretty quick and i look back on it now and so mom cleaned houses for a year why i trained in steamboat springs colorado um with the us national team and then she didn’t have a legal visa so she had to move back home um and and then i moved that was kind of like the mecca of snowboarding had moved
(17:40) to mammoth so i’d moved to mammoth and was like sleeping on couches for like two years while going to homeschool whilst trying to still become a pro snowboarder it was all it like i i look at like 14 year olds and 15 year olds now and i’m like holy [ __ ] like how can they like how can they survive on their own and here i was like on the other side of the world like you know just just trying to just trying to make it happen but i i think like it was all kind of for the bigger picture but i had to go through that
(18:10) heartache and and and and our family kind of you know my brother had you know been involved in drugs and whatnot from like an early age and it was kind of like get out or go down the same path you know on it all just at all you know and and and like you know like our father wasn’t necessarily in our life so it was all kind of a weird time it’s unfortunate but like that’s kind of like the earlier memory i have you know before that it was you know i think just regular australia kids like um you know we all grew up kind of by the
(18:41) water so we surf and we write bmxes and and and and you kind of just do that until you think that you’re going to have to get an apprenticeship and get a job or become a carpenter and i was just at that right age to where i kind of got out of there and once i got here i was like i’m not going back yeah yeah how did that play out into your adulthood um not good because i ended up in like a severe depression when i was like 22 and i’d been successful for i think you know nearly like a better part of like seven eight years
(19:16) um you know from like a teenager like a late like a late teenage success to early 20s and grenade had started and and my snowboard career had like even then like started to like switch everybody was getting so much better and and for me i like had started like working in media and and we’d started grenade and at that time like i you know then picked up a microphone so i was still snowboarding while doing media which was also kind of like one of the first to do it especially from extreme sports you know we’d always had
(19:55) these like announcers and hosts and people that like maybe weren’t from like the trenches of the sport so i was able to like give this like unique angle on it because i was a snowboarder and i had like you know essentially come through the trenches um but then we lived this like crazy life you know and and we became really successful at a really young age um you know with danny like danny’s first olympic medal who was my partner in grenade his first olympic medal he was 19 and that was 2002 um and he got silva at the olympics in
(20:29) parks in park city ross powell’s got first jj thomas got third it was like the first american sweeping 52 years um and and and then come from that like 2002 leading into like 2006 snowboarding all of a sudden was like you know on a mainstream level these corporate companies were throwing like crazy amount of money crazy amount of money in us in that same time we’d created grenade gloves which was like this really core brand for snowboarders by snowboarders but also it got really big um and we were running a gigantic
(21:01) business as teenagers so like what comes with that is like you know we didn’t pay taxes on certain things and and and and had 35 of our friends working for us and like maybe you know three of them could have told you what they did um you know we had warehouses that were full of pinball machines that should be full of product and we weren’t shipping on time and but people were still buying our stuff i i think by like 2006 we were like the number one winter apparel gear in zoomies um and we were like competing against
(21:33) you know the quicksilvers and the dc’s and all these people in that same time that’s when me and danny had launched the tv show adventures of danny and dingo um that came out on fuel tv which we did 49 episodes over like i think it was like six or seven years um but in the middle of that was when i fell into my huge depression it was like 2008 and again like it goes back to like my childhood and then the life i lived as a teenager into my young into my young 20s nobody had prepared me for any of it mentally so like just because you’re
(22:08) succeeding doesn’t mean that you’re met you’re you’re like mentally stable um and these are all things that i’m learning still learning now um and and and and and spend time in therapy and trauma therapy and all these things to like deal with and understand like what i was going through and and and what i had hit i’d hit a wall and i was embarrassed to tell my family that i was like mentally not well i was embarrassed to like tell my friends or employees or people that work for us because people looked up to me
(22:38) and people looked up to us and people needed us and my family was you know it was just and what i should have done was like the first time i was like wow i like don’t feel right and the first time you know the first day i wish that i thought about suicide which i thought about for like over a year and a half every single day in the peak of like what i was going through and it was 2008 so it was right when the economy crashed um we had had our own issues of what we were doing with us dealing with as not on our professional
(23:08) side but on our business side of trying to run a company we had all these companies giving us lots of money and then it was all going back into grenade and making grenades stay afloat but we didn’t know what we were doing on a business front there we were kids essentially running a business having stuff made in china taiwan getting it shipped over getting all the shipping getting that done then having it shipped out dealing with like the 36 countries that we were dealing with um and when the financial crisis hit like we had to
(23:33) like really like our doors almost had to close and we had to like get rid of a bunch of real estate and close down and you know like the one thing that we never dealt with was like because of debt with danny and everything that we had going on we never had to borrow money from the banks so like it was all on us um and when that kind of imploded and we had to fire all of our friends which was like the hardest thing i ever had to do um and then all of a sudden these people that you like know and love uh don’t
(23:59) care about you anymore and you’re thinking they’re your best friends so then it’s like you and your you know your other best friend and you know we had to hire like you know a ceo to come in and like run it as a business and then all of a sudden everything just changed you know and and and and for me it all imploded on the fact of like mentally i wasn’t built to deal with any of that stuff i was still i was i was i think i was about i think i was like 21 when i first like kind of like fell into
(24:26) a depression and i and it was like maybe i think i was uh 22 and a half like you’re nearly 23 when i i tried to commit suicide and and and i ended up in the hospital but i’ve been sick for like a year and a half thinking about suicide like every single day the first thing you think about you wake up the last thing you think about when you go to bed and and and that in itself is like that’s an illness yeah and and i never addressed it uh and i just just got up every day went and filmed this show oversaw this thing had
(24:57) to be at the trade shows had to be the face of this had to be the face of that um but wasn’t taking care of myself and uh and and yeah and it goes back to even you know when i was a kid it was i feel you know i got to live this like super privilege privileged life um but then again too like nobody no nobody was there like guiding us through like what we were like dealing with mentally um and you know we all kind of ended up having our own uh essentially i don’t know like depressions or blowouts in in completely
(25:32) different ways though too you know but both myself and danny like really went through it and went through it on our own you know and and and where we’re at in today’s society like i got to a point to where i was like you know it all happened really quick i i like came over to america to you know ride a snowboard and that was all i really thought about and then that happened then some and it all happened really quick and i never like was able to like stand back and be like what do you want to do yeah like how can i like
(26:03) you know i want to look at the next phase of my life and i want to do what i want to do and helping people was like you know something i wanted to do and and and being able to like talk about what i had gone through and i still didn’t know how that process was gonna happen um it wasn’t until i met my one of my partners now mike smith but you know i i lived like that up until i don’t know like 2013.
(26:29) yeah and growing up you know with an absent father is is not nourishing so that i’m sure had a lot of the trauma you know a lot of that was rooted there hugely like i remember when i was like seriously like sleeping on a couch and like didn’t really have a father figure of a type i always had a close relationship with my mom but i was on the other side of the world and i just like wanted this person to love me yeah and they’re not there you know i used to cry about i used to look myself in a closet i used to cry about it
(26:57) so during those times those dark times and also later on in in your early 20s when you were in the midst of that darkness what was it that did help you see the light at the end of the tunnel or or from losing all hope um listen like waking up waking up in the hospital and like having to like look at a doctor and you know then go through the process of telling your family and like that process is like that’s almost worse than the process itself of like committing because once you commit you commit and then once you uh once you wake up you’ve
(27:34) failed and then you’ve got to tell your whole family and loved ones of like and you would think you would still wake up from that part but it’s still like i still like faked it um for a long time i don’t think i i don’t think it was till i like wanted to like accept it and then acknowledge it and then want to fix myself and i don’t think i tried to fix myself until you know i definitely band-aided situations but i like never really tried to fix it until i think like 2013.
(28:04) um and it really wasn’t until i started like speaking to young kids about what i’d gone through and like hearing their stories and me telling my story especially your calling yeah you know like it was like better than therapy for me and i was able to like have like real one-on-one conversations with kids that had like gone through the same process i’d gone through and all they ever want or anyone it’s like you want to be heard and and and and and a lot of these kids feel like they don’t have a voice and for whatever
(28:32) reason i did too you know and yeah it’s it doesn’t matter who you are or what you’ve been through we all have issues in life and things we need are overcome but things that we’re going to need to overcome and it’s about how you deal with those situations and how you get to the next step is that is is how you’re you know able to like come out of it and for me it was looking the same kids that had had because and two it’s like one of those things that people don’t realize that unless you’ve gone through it or or
(28:59) had those feelings it’s hard to like justify or look and be like oh wow how did that how are they not okay or how are they not this or that but until you step into somebody else’s like shoes and try and understand um and that’s all i was trying to do and when i like realized that that’s all these kids needed um that like really that’s when my like life definitely changed in like my philosophy of of it always would be me me me and i’d always i think society builds people up to like get a bigger house get a
(29:28) bigger car do more for you do more for you it’s how it’s what’s kind of like thrown into us every day um especially when you’re like a kid going into school and then you’re getting a job and like it’s always get the bigger job get this get that um uh you know i i i just you know strongly think that it it’s not about it’s it’s not about what can you do for you it’s about what can you do for them what can you do for others and and in return what you get out of that yourself is much more than
(30:01) doing anything for yourself it’s it’s kind of insane actually i think that depression is really um it’s it’s simply a lack of hope for the future and a lot of young kids whether they’ve been told it by their parents or or somebody else a lot of them just feel like they’re not going to amount to anything and they just need someone to tell them that they can and that they will um i think also what i’m hearing from your story dingo is that your life was so busy and you had so much coming at you from every angle you
(30:34) didn’t have a moment of stillness to really reassess okay what direction do i actually want to go who am i right now like that’s a huge question that i think if we can get everyone to ask that daily you know who am i right now and who do i want to be and just assessing that from a place of knowing that you’re it’s okay to ask that question and it’s okay to have an answer that doesn’t fit into a certain box you know anyone else might be putting out there and saying you should fit into um
(31:03) but yeah it sounds like stillness was a was something that wasn’t really a part of your life you were just like sleeping on this person’s couch then going you know interviewing these guys and then you’re with grenade and you’re doing all these things a million miles per minute how could you have a chance to even really think about the [ __ ] that’s bugging you deep down behind that you’re not able to look at yeah um so i’d say especially for uh especially as young people but sometimes
(31:32) also much later into our lives um we really don’t know how to respond to the chemical imbalances that we experience in our minds and bodies and we don’t always have the tools to respond appropriately appropriately to whatever comes with those imbalances like panic attacks um anxiety depression these are all ways that that expresses through our bodies and the fact is that when we’re experiencing these things it can feel hopeless like jade said in the moment and it it’s something that unfortunately can
(32:06) end in suicide so i want to ask you what would you tell someone facing that type of darkness in themselves right now um you know like i think for me i always try and um have you got to look at the positive right we all have positive and negatives and i think in suicide when you’re having deep suicidal thoughts or your your mental wellness is as has gone that low that you generally think that you can’t get out of it and that that day’s gonna be there’s never gonna you’re never gonna come out of it right you feel like you
(32:44) feel like you’re stuck and that the only way out of it is to commit suicide um to relieve yourself or free yourself but like that that’s that’s that’s so wrong like because you can come out of it and you can work through it and you’ve just got to be able to like look at the positives in your life or look at whatever you can that is not negative and strive towards that because no matter how like how bad it is or the level of like where you’re at in your head but like when you but it’s but it but then
(33:16) there’s a catch 22 like when you’re in that moment you don’t feel like and there’s really no one that can like rip you out of it you’ve got to rip yourself out of it like that’s the one thing i always say that if you want to like fix yourself you have to want to fix yourself because like you can you can get into that dark hole but if you if you don’t want to come out of it it’s hard to uh it’s it’s hard to it’s it’s hard to uh it’s hard to do that you know like i um
(33:42) i’ve had to deal with that on so many different levels i’ve i’ve over the last you know like five five five five years you know i’ve had friends like that have like you know taken their lives and all the way up to like my brother my brother took his life earlier this year and it was it was one of those things that we like have both have chemical imbalances and he just had like you know he’d had demons on his side since he was a young kid and he’d fallen into drugs at a young age and he
(34:12) battled that and tried to fix that but it in in in itself it eventually it took his life and there was a period that where you know i know that he tried to help himself he’s come to america he’s going to facilities we’ve like worked on it and and and you know the the last time i was with him he was like it wasn’t the kids i wouldn’t be here and we always kind of had those conversations but like eventually it won and it it beat him and he took his life and it’s like it’s like having to like understand like
(34:40) where people come from and where they’re at and those things and he he i you know i just genuinely think that he felt that it was going to be easier for for for one’s around him to be gone than not to be gone and it’s such [ __ ] [ __ ] you know it’s like it’s like there were people that love and care for him and and a wife and kids and a loving family but like he was so far on the dark side that was he was never going to come back out of it and it was you know as sad yeah i’ve i’ve had a couple of friends
(35:11) in the last couple months commit suicide and and the um all of them had either um a child under one or a pregnant wife and that was so con that was so hard for me to grasp like um i’ve struggled with depression before and i’ve i’ve tried to commit suicide and ended up in the hospital as well before but um it was hard for me to grasp like you know when there’s an infant or a child on the way um and that part was so that whole week i mean it’s it was just hard for me to shake off like the thought for the child you know
(35:51) it’s so i’m so sorry that you you had to go through that and that there’s and this is so evolved still such a fresh wound for you luke um and you’ve taken on essentially you’ve you’ve stepped into the father figure role it sounds like for his three young children yeah three young kids yep um so what has that shed light on for you i mean his death and the way that he decided to to take his life um and then taking on these children i mean obviously it’s tragic traumatic and terrible as it is that that those things
(36:29) happened yeah we try to bring a conversation here on this podcast to to those places because it’s hard to talk about but it’s stuff that we do need to talk about otherwise we don’t get to move it through our bodies which is what we’re right right to release so when it comes to all those things that accumulated and happen and it’s a part of your life because it’s your brother and now these kids are very much a part of your life what is what do you feel like is like you know the universe speaking through that story
(36:57) and that that happening what’s what’s it telling you what do you know like for me like the first thing that i just felt was those kids and you know like i like you know like instantly without even thinking about it i’m like you know you’ve like got to be there for those kids and and and help them understand and and and and and you know you can never like fill those shoes or whatnot but it’s in that moment you’ve got to look at the wife and the kids and you’ve got to be there for them you know
(37:31) and that was without an instinct for me like i spent you know like i’ve done like 200 000 miles this year i’ve spent half the year if i’m not if i’m not working i’m like you know have been in australia and just been dealing with getting the kids moved into the new place getting them out of where they were getting them into school getting their surroundings set up making sure they’re all good making sure there’s a support community there and that’s all you can do you know and i think there
(37:55) are some people that like would say they would do that and but it’s in that situation it’s like you know for me it was as soon as they as soon as they announced my brother’s death it was you know at the hospital it was my instinct just went to the kids and i was like all right go take care of the kids like no no no even not even thinking about it so it was just for me it came naturally just to be there you know and as somebody that had struggled like with my own family issues and my own father issues like
(38:23) i you know i will not let those kids grow up and be alone and that’s just you know that’s just that’s i could i didn’t even think about it it was just you know just be there and do what you got to do you know how is it changing your life um you know it’s it’s just it’s just one of those things you know like i like have dealt with friends that have been in the same situation i have um you know with people dying that have had kids and you know you’re looking from afar and you’re just
(38:56) like [ __ ] like you know you just you don’t you don’t think it’s gonna happen to you and it it is it’s happening to everyone how’s it changed my life i don’t know again it’s just like i was already on this path of trying to like help people yeah um you know talk about mental like their mental health and trying to make it more of um something that is like talked about more broadly in our community and and not so hidden and shared um all right so again i i’ve unfortunately i’ve kind of was a little
(39:29) bit conditioned for it because i had been you know dealing with it not personally but because of what i’ve been through um and and and and i i think now it’s just given me more of um you know a fire to like make sure that i continue to like spread that message and continue to like help out and i think like i think that like especially within like suicide or or mental illness you know like none of us are going to like change the world the world the world the world is going to do what the world’s going to do but i think if we can all
(40:02) like pick you know one thing to like spend our lives on trying to help other people or trying to fix something then the world would be a better place and unfortunately i got stuck in the club of suicide and mental illness what do you do now when to to keep your thoughts from going there to um especially like losing someone you love that hasn’t done anything for me personally on on you know like going to the dark side but in saying that i don’t take medication and i i never did i i had had issues in the
(40:40) past with substance so like for me like just to get shoved down a bunch of medication was like never an issue so like do i still deal with depression i still deal with depression and i still go into dark halls where i don’t want to be around people and and that time suck those times suck but i still do go through those times when i’m life’s hard but like i still wake up and you know put my pants on and walk outside and just deal with i got to deal with but do i still deal with depression hugely you
(41:09) know and sometimes sometimes it’s not there and sometimes it’s like roaring down and just when it when it comes to me i know to speak about it i know to speak to the therapist about it i know how i kind of deal with it but like is it gone it’s not gone yeah and i think such a huge part of that is asking for help but but knowing uh in that hopeless state of mind when you’re in this dark hole that this is chemicals in our body and they need in order to move them through our bodies we sometimes need to literally move our
(41:42) bodies we need to you know visit with a psychiatrist and and get somebody to help us do that sometimes but there are tools out there it isn’t hopeless because there’s about a zillion ways endless amounts of ways to help yourself out of that so i’m just i guess speaking to anyone listening to this that might be struggling in that way i wanted to ask you about your work with uh the well the students that you’re you’re currently speaking to often and if you’d experienced i guess what your experiences are like
(42:18) when you go into those classrooms and speak to those kids because i feel like right now in our current climate with social media with video games with the mass shootings in schools family dramas bullying all the things that kids are dealing with there’s got to be a lot of darkness that these kids are trying to sift through with very little tools it’s the hardest time for any teenagers everywhere especially america especially in public schools like can you imagine like going to school and now it’s like a
(42:46) regular thing for them to a like have signs around to do like what to do when a shooter’s active like those signs are in schools like i go into those schools um you know social media influences again to like just be like have stuff shove down you that to have this this that or this person’s prettier or you know like that that aspect um you know and it’s like it’s it’s no different than like you know a social circle in your school is no different than a social circle outside now it’s like there’s the
(43:18) popular kids that have you know the more followings in the schools and have their clicks and then there’s the kid that has the instagram or whatnot that has five followers like those kids still get emotionally picked on and beat up or however it goes down you know and um you know for us or for me um with find your grind and and where where where where what we’re trying to essentially do is is is is showing the light that there’s a light out there and you know like you know for us it’s like we’re really going
(43:50) into the career side of things it’s like we look at lifestyles and we just try and have people um you know identify with their lifestyles more and and and show that there’s a lot more opportunity out there than just the regular box you know and and again it’s like it’s just such a tough time for like these kids to even transition from like high school into college because these kids now are like going and getting these degrees that their degrees are going to put them in debt and they’re never going to use
(44:16) that degree and they’re deferring to get another degree so they can just get a job and you know i don’t know we’re just trying to really shine a light that there’s a lot more out there than just what has been the normal standard and there really is like more opportunity to grow and work and do these things that we just need to figure out a way to like have these kids get access to to these worlds of you know where they can go into a work but you know like i’ve had some really like awful like experiences with you know
(44:48) young teenagers like deaths and suicides that like you know and again i don’t have an answer for these things of like you know young like girls there was a school in boston that we got called into and seven girls in the one grade in the same year all committed suicide oh my god i suppose i was reading that like 12 through 14 years old is the most common age for suicide now yeah you know and it’s it’s um we spoke at a school here in southern california where we spoke at and then two weeks later the teacher had um hung
(45:20) herself in the classroom and the kids had walked in the next day that january to open the door and then because the teacher was there and the kids opened the door and walked into it and we got called back into this school to speak to these kids and it’s just a dark time for for everybody and i think the one thing we’ve got to do and like with find your grind that we are working towards i think there’s a few states now new york’s one of them maybe washington where they’ve made it compulsory to teach about mental health
(45:49) and i think that like we need to like create a like a compulsory curriculum that is taught from kindergarten into middle school into high school these kids need to be taught it like they’re taught math like they’re taught english like the tort science because these tools that these kids need to be taught and the difference is is teachers haven’t been taught to teach about mental health and we need to create an actual curriculum that is compulsory for all states all around the world that kids are learning about mental health
(46:23) from a young age so they can see the signs not just for themselves they can see the signs if it’s a family member if it’s a friend so if they see the signs they understand what’s going on and they understand it keeping you in the shadows and and and and going down the roads we’re going down of of of of of losing loved ones and and and the way that it’s happening in such mass numbers now i don’t think it’s going to get any better until we start educating these young kids and they grow up with it and they
(46:52) understand like the signs of mental health and and and you know because like like depression comes in all different forms and sizes and and i think that we uh really need to you know start creating some um some products for for kids to start learning at a young age we really need to change what we’re teaching in schools um not only mental health but um you know things like love languages even you know relationships yeah different styles of communication um non-violent communication you know like all of those things are are so
(47:28) important and we don’t teach any of them and taking away the taboo from those things being something we you know we don’t want to learn about especially especially the the male population we talk about the word you know we say toxic masculinity a lot on this show but that idea of well i don’t need help i don’t need anybody to you know give me any tools in this my brain’s just fine my body’s just fine and all those ways that we reject the learning the education the tools that we actually need in order to to
(47:58) survive and be sustainable in our brains and bodies yeah it’s crazy though right because you think about that and it is it’s like that macho man and it’s like they they they they’re good they’re this to that and it’s like it’s that it’s that male between like 30 and 45 that is struggling the most right now 100 it’s the one it’s the person who’s rejecting the help the most that’s usually struggling the most right yeah yeah so we definitely there’s some um pivoting that needs to happen like some
(48:33) some way we need to change the the paradigm there because it is but like we were saying in another episode it’s almost um like everything going on in our country and everything that women or women are changing what they’re attracted to and being vocal about that it is causing a shift yes to happen thankfully yeah yeah exactly and and that’s it everyone just needs to keep acknowledging it and and that and that and that shift will happen but it’s almost just like keep talking yeah but it’s like how many people do we
(49:04) have to lose until people exactly yeah and that’s the thing we need to soften to it and the way we do that is through empathy and it’s unfortunate that we have to lose people in order for us to be shaken awake to that you know like in order to go dude i need to actually think about this stuff in myself and for my own children and you know whatever it is that that shaking causes us to look at more deeply all right so so pivoting slightly to a little bit of a lighter topic here um i’ve heard you have a wienerschnitzel
(49:34) tattoo and uh fun fact the the president actu the president of the i think he’s the whole wiener sizzle conglomerate j.r gillardy he actually officiated my wedding so it’s really did not yes he did yeah so um yeah though yeah you know that guy how’d you end up with that tattoo um i don’t know we did a bus tour where we were helping out homeless people we were feeding homeless people venus needles um hot dogs hot dogs for homeless for like three months and i think we said if we’d reached i don’t know a hundred thousand dollars
(50:18) or something that we would all get weiner snitzel tattoos and then we did that and some i think so then like i think was ryan scheckler’s board graphic guy like graphic guy i had sent this logo over i think sheckler got it first and then all of a sudden we’ve all got him so yeah i have a wiener schnitzel tattoo skateboarding luckily enough hot dog on the side of my leg yeah but the witness snitzel logo is like right there what’s the wienerschnitzel um mascot name i think i don’t know tdo the what is it what the hot dog what’s their
(51:02) um saying though venus schnitzel the world’s greatest wiener but i can’t remember why it’s what his name is but there’s some correlation there anyway is it really yeah yeah i don’t know like an acronym for something at least the corporate logo i have tattooed my body i know the owner it’d be weird if i didn’t you know that’s true that’s true i don’t have a monster one yet though right no no no no no no um so let’s see what else we want to pick your brain on here um why did you decide to start public
(51:39) speaking specifically i kind of got thrown into it it was like this weird like i was it was 2013 and i had met my now partner mike smith and um he is a public speaker to young kids but also does like corporate whatever like ypo and all these kind of like bigger things and um he’d kind of like push me into it and that was like the original time when i started like kind of like voicing out about my depression and all of a sudden i found it easier to like talk about it than to like yeah so then i started he helped me started like
(52:18) curating like my like speech as essentially essentially and um you know like my whole thing was kind of carved out through like you know athlete depression and then just kind of opening up about it uh so it just kind of came naturally it was i had you know um you know through through meeting mike and um you know kind of trying to understand what he did the first time i ever like saw him speak uh he stood in an auditorium and made it was 11 or 12 creators and he made the cool kids uncool and the uncool kids cool and i was like super like
(52:57) i was really didn’t understand how he did that just with these words you know and like 11 12th graders are so impressionable and at that time i was still kind of searching for like me you know the new me and uh i got on a plane flew to nebraska lincoln nebraska a place i’d never heard of and next thing you know like i’m spending a lot of time there and now i now spend you know a good amount of time out there and and and uh i was you know kind of going school to school learning how to like perfect my
(53:29) like speech and people are like what are you doing in middle america speaking of high school kids and for me i didn’t really know it was just made me feel good and it felt right and i kept doing it and i couldn’t really explain to people um why i was um why i was doing it you know um and and it you know i had a couple different ideas and i even took an idea to like rob dyrdick and we’d like we shot and pitched this like you know kind of like crazy tv show about the inner workings of like high schools and how high
(54:01) schools work and and and what we’ve done is we’ve taken essentially like the four leaders of a school we took like the lead football kid the lead drama kid um the lead um slam poetry and then the lead cheerleader and we made these kids live with each other and basically essentially switch lives and and these kids that have essentially had gone to the same school but never really spoken all like made fun of each other in this case that was the case and then and then you know we had the lead football kid in drama class
(54:37) and and and and the vice versa the the the the the the football but but by the end of it what we called it was it was only like a week of shooting we called it like the united nations of of of of high schools and these four kids essentially could bring the whole school together but nobody had ever done that um so these are these different ideas that we were trying to essentially it was like extreme makeover kind of style but like in high schools and unfortunately for us it was like it was done really well it was shot really
(55:06) well um but it was probably like 10 years too late for it to be like a major success we pitched fox and abc and all these big networks who were all super interested in it but like the people that were buying these shows like the one guy pulled togletti um n is nbc nbc’s america’s got talent this guy’s like yeah i think it’s nbc this guy’s like thinking that’s good this is a great idea this could be like one episode and it’s like dear dank and mike and we’re all like sitting around
(55:34) there and and this guy had created a celebrity apprentice and he’s got these big posters there and he’s like well the show needs like what we need is like an island and we need like spinning chairs and he just started naming like the amazing race and like america’s got talents on many shows and for me at that time it was like [ __ ] like it’s a setback for us and it was a setback i think we needed to get to where we were today because if we had just gone and sold a tv show to nbc like you know seven years
(56:03) ago or whatnot it really would have got lost and confused but it really like this guy this guy was like literally i could fix education in one episode and i was like who the [ __ ] does this guy think he is um and after having all those big meetings and like exactly like even lauren dodge from mtv she’s like guys this is great my number one show is about pregnant teenagers like this is not for us and it was just we just missed the boat on that show if it had been 10 years earlier it would have been like a prime time show with
(56:32) you know extreme home makeover but because it didn’t happen we kept kept pursuing and you know we we had then come to the idea of all right we’re able to do live events live events are great but we want to be able to leave something in the education system so then we started hiring educators and principals and teachers and and people that had written curriculums and we started writing our own curriculum so we started creating a product that we could leave in schools that could be in schools from our background and that’s when the
(56:59) find your grind thing kind of started to you know evolve and and and explode pretty quickly because the live events we were able to um we just kind of like carved out a niche space and and and and and had you know gone from doing like you know like small schools to like you know like we i think we filled up michigan state basketball arena and they bust in like 60 something schools wow so it came from this like smaller idea um into a much larger idea and then when we reached that peak i remember like you know we were
(57:33) uh uh it was like 2 000 i don’t know it was probably like two years ago or like two and a half years ago and that’s when we started just hiring these people to write these curriculums and put these things into play and you know it’s it’s it’s we’re like barking up a huge tree that’s going to take a long time to get there you know we’re fighting education and we’re we’re trying to make some noise but like it’s um we’ve come we’ve come a really long way and and and and and now
(58:02) to be able to have partners like amazon and tick tock and all these other brands in like that space is is is pretty cool you know so it’s like bigger companies are now starting to turn to us microsoft turned to us and we create content for them now for schools it’s like these bigger companies are looking at what we’re doing in a space that we know you know we know entertainment we know music we know sports we know gaming we know these things and that’s what we’re showing people we’re showing people how
(58:24) our lifestyle and all the industry the industries but then all the jobs that come within it and then being able to showcase these mentors and super mentors and really highlight this like reel on education that had kind of never been done before um it’s amazing so that’s half the time i’m like i we have no idea what we’re doing but we just keep moving forward well because you’re at the forefront which is amazing and i think most people feel that way yeah it’s it’s a little scary but maybe
(58:50) i like to change the scary to adventurous now yeah that way but that’s actually my dream job um and i don’t know if you’ve heard of kind campaign but they do yeah that’s if if i could do anything with my time besides you know be a stay-at-home mom which i am um single mom of my two toddlers but the that would be what i would fill my time with yeah we’re doing it through this podcast though so like that i like that you’re getting it done from home um but i was gonna say about your your tv
(59:23) show that you guys shot i feel like that can live on social media now at this point with igtv or youtube or whatever and i would definitely do that it doesn’t have to be gold to one of these big conglomerates because honestly a lot of them aren’t going to be they have to be it could just be a youtube yeah and it’s tough because social media is really a huge game right now i mean it’s we you know you and i dingo we are kind of um we’ve been in the same shoes as far as it goes being under the conglomerates with
(59:59) viacom i work for viacom currently with bellator and you’ve been with mtv and all that so i mean these are huge companies with tons of money but at the same time they’re aware they need to make these changes they’re buying less shows because they know they have to make these changes towards you know people aren’t necessarily all subscribing to cable anymore yeah did that netflix yeah that was another option so yeah not that okay no i was just going to say like you searched right though it was like viacom
(1:00:27) is you know it’s like oh not vikon but mtv you look at mtv for example like they haven’t been able to gain a new audience member in however long right they missed they missed like gen z and then rather than like trying to like attach themselves to young kids again they’ve just gone back and they’re regurgitating shows that work 10 12 years ago because they know they can get somewhat of an audience like the hills is a perfect reference to like bringing that back or jersey shore of these shows
(1:00:52) that like all right we haven’t been able to get a new audience remember let’s just go and attack these people we had 10 years ago because we know half of them may watch it and you can’t build a network off that and if you look at i think viacom and cbs just made their acquisition or it’s about to happen right they’re merging right and like they’re basically these falling media garments that are losing out to the youtubes and the facebooks and and all these people so you’re right the big
(1:01:16) media beast has you know apart from disney to worry about if you’re not a part of disney you know you’re you’re trying to like have people watch your news you’re in [ __ ] trouble you know and it’s these young you know the the that you’re right the social media platforms and all these and all these things so yeah no we’ll get there and we we just we just have to be very um we just have to be very picky on like where we put our finances and what we put into um but yeah like my goal is to get to the
(1:01:44) point to where like we have the all those types of shows that we give away for free that you can just watch it’s just it’s just where do you pull the money from to do that and we’re figuring that stuff out you know and and i think um yeah that’s where we’d love to get to is showcasing is being able to showcase those types of shows that again like it goes back to like um doing good and unfortunately the big media beast fell to like oh people want to see when people are struggling or failing or this
(1:02:13) or that or like it’s a disruptive stuff that took over you know it’s like it’s like how long ago have you seen like a show like extreme home makeover like do what it do what it did like you used to watch those types of shows and like some you’d cry you know very very rarely now do you watch a show that people put money into where you’re like oh you know it’s people are watching the bachelor of the bachelorette and they’ve got 20 different spin-offs of it because people just want to watch dumb tv because
(1:02:38) the world right now is so much chaos that when people want to numb themselves that’s it that’s what tv producers always just say they’re just here to numb people yeah it sounds like that it seems like people are waking up so yeah well that’s the whole thing social media gives you a platform to do whatever you want so yeah that’s what it’s there that’s what it’s there to do and you know you kind of gain your own following or audience or if you can use it to empower yourself instead of tear
(1:03:04) yourself down i think that’s a big struggle especially like we’re talking about you know these kids that are using social media to compare themselves to others and then end up really hurting because of it so yeah um think about instagram right now like think about instagram instagram knows that they’ve done that and instagram in like canada and australia have like been testing out these things where you can’t see the likes yeah and all these things which then like destroys influence and all these people instagram instagram knows
(1:03:30) that they’re [ __ ] up so bad because the world has lent this way that they’re like because i was speaking to some influencers that were saying that their instagram feeds now want to get shown to like half their people or this or that like instagram knows they [ __ ] up really bad yeah and i would say it’s not instagram it’s not just instagram [ __ ] up you know yeah not even a [ __ ] up i’d like to re phrase the idea in our heads we have about blaming things outside of our bodies and find a way to take responsibility for
(1:04:02) like how we decide to follow other people or mute other people or unfollow or block or whatever we need to do in order to create a safe space for ourselves and teach that to our kids you know because at the end of the [ __ ] day instagram if instagram’s not there it’s going to be something else that’s going to be you’re comparing yourself to it’s going to be something else that’s bothering you it’s going to be the click you don’t fit into and you know the tribe you want to be a part of
(1:04:25) but for whatever reason you’re not um the money you know the amount of money you’re not making it’s going to be something that you’re using to tell yourself that you’re not good enough and the the actuality is if we can figure out a better way to teach you know ourselves and then our children how to understand and then know that we are enough and we are all those things that we’re seeking outside of our bodies and like look within and figure out the ways to do that we heal ourselves it’s not
(1:04:52) about whatever yeah you mentioned rob dyrdek we’re going to have um big cat on the show we just need to come up with a topic for us to discuss awkwardness awkwardness that’s actually what we bond over so that’s what you guys should talk about that’s not bad we’ll figure it out that’s actually why we’re good friends because we’re both you about the awkward [Laughter] um we have a question from our magic mob brennan asks you’ve been really open about your struggles with mental health and your
(1:05:25) eating habits in relation to it could you explain a bit about how those things are correlated for you and how or if you’ve overcome the issues you had around eating no like me like my eating is like a form of like depression i like eat my um if i’m sad i eat right and that’s always been a thing since i was a kid so i still haven’t overcome that i like still if i go through like a dark period i will like eat my way through it um yeah i don’t know i don’t again it’s like i don’t know it’s like you know
(1:05:58) well you recognized it in yourself so i mean that’s definitely a start right yeah right it’s like i don’t know i just whatever floor i ever had i’ve just been in the last three years or four years i’ve just started telling people about it and you know little do you know a bunch of other people have the same issues isn’t that crazy and i was going to ask you about that you know you you are now creating a new another career around speaking about things that have been your hurdles in life your struggles in
(1:06:29) life and i wanted to know how much or if you can express how that’s helped you get through a lot of these things because you kind of are speaking about them as you’re going through them which a lot of people wouldn’t do they would wait till they’ve already figured it out and then they’d come back and say oh yeah well this is how i did it let me help you you know which is we need that too but at the same time like you’re being so brave and vulnerable in saying hey i’m [ __ ] dealing with this
(1:06:55) [ __ ] right now and i haven’t figured it all the way out but here’s the things that have helped me so far so how has that been uh a tool for you i think like i think knowing that i used to like bottle all these things up when i as a kid and i think like bottling everything up and it ended in my real life into my like real uh when i was like trying to commit suicide and that was all lead up to like bottling things up and like not being open and honest um so i think like inside of me instinct is like don’t ever
(1:07:29) go down that road again so how do you not go down that road again anything you’re going through i just kind of blot it out and like by blurring it out that means that it’s off my chest and that’s out in the open so that pushes me through and it helps me through and gets me through that next day and i think that’s just without even like setting out to do anything i think this natural instinct is like all right if you just bottle all your problems up you’re gonna end up into a bad hole again so not
(1:07:53) getting into that hole or like taking that hole for yourself is when it happens or when you go through it be honest about it and and and and when you are able to talk about something or get it off your chest that’s like half the battle itself so i think that has without again like setting out to do it it’s just kind of naturally been it’s not naturally kind of happened that way and it seems to be working out you know like i i even think like just dealing with a lot of the stuff that i had to deal with my brother
(1:08:20) i was i would i rather than not you know talking about it i’d i’d rather just talk about it because it’s happened and it’s like i like i i i you still have to live with that and by like being open about it am i angry at him yeah i’m angry at him but do i love him i love the [ __ ] out of him and you know like i will always like remember the good but you know talking about what i’ve what i’ve been through again it just helps me so i don’t end up in a dark hole and you know end up in
(1:08:49) the same situation wow um so i feel like to sum it all up maybe it’s saying it out loud causes you to show up it kind of forces you to because now now other people are witness to this this is some [ __ ] you have to actually like show up for in yourself and out in public to some degree yeah and it also reminded me of something we talked about on the show a lot which is this four-step mantra uh that comes from from michael brody wait and it’s practice rigorous authenticity surrender the outcome do the uncomfortable work
(1:09:24) and then i added integrate with gratitude and i think that’s what you’re doing you’re basically like all right here’s the true [ __ ] i’m gonna say it out loud and surrender the outcome like you might think i’m crazy you might think that you know i’m [ __ ] up for saying it you might think something of me negative but i need to say it out loud because that’s the uncomfortable work that’s going to help me get to healing yeah that’s huge but that’s the whole thing like you know
(1:09:49) like everybody will like everybody like to think they’re perfect but no one’s perfect right and like i think like being honest about your flaws is is is not such a bad thing where it’s it’s it’s kind of been look looked down on but i i just you know i think that we all have issues and it’s like you know people look at will yeah like look at a family and be like that family’s perfect or this and it’s like the ones that you would think are perfect are usually the ones that are the most [ __ ] up totally
(1:10:20) yeah we’re always we’re always projecting some other illusion out there onto others and it’s not true at all it’s like people are always looking for the grasses greener the grass has never been greener gotta figure out you gotta make it green within man yeah all right so let’s see we’re gonna lighten it up again here um we have a pick your poison from randy on facebook he asks you would you rather be able to detect any lie you hear or get away with any lie you tell say that again because i’m gonna process
(1:10:55) it would you rather be able to detect any lie you hear or get away with any lie you tell the kid where’s any lie you tell just get out of anything i wonder what lies you would tell i know not anymore but everybody’s had everybody said everybody said a couple of white lies that’s a thing i feel like people do white lies all the time but if you were to be able to detect a lie you would go crazy because you just feel like everyone is a liar yeah but everyone is a liar to some degree i mean but you kind of know too like if you
(1:11:35) just use your intuition and read micro expressions you know you could study when yeah but then at the same time when you struggle with anxiety a little bit or like everything seems like a red flag because of the people that you’ve yeah been around in the past it could actually ease your mind because you’re like oh thank god i’m normal telling the truth i’m just what they’re telling the truth but that’s the whole thing that used to be one of direct’s old companies was called rogue status
(1:12:00) and their motto was don’t trust anyone dta so i always took that model don’t trust anyone so everyone can lie to me because i don’t trust you anyway that’s a slippery slope though i feel like it makes you resentful or something everybody right and then that leads to sad stuff so um god i don’t know jade what would you choose that’s the thing um it really is a poison because neither i would feel like um [Music] i would go crazy because i feel like everyone is a liar from all the white lies or i would be like oh thank god
(1:12:36) here’s a truth teller i found one yeah well yeah my anxiety is gone they ever lie to you you’re alone forever or something right it could turn into i mean if it’s like yeah i like your cooking and i you know like something like that it wouldn’t like we all lie within the first second of meeting each other it’s like hey how are you fine no you’re [ __ ] not yeah right that’s not a real answer but we all do that just because we don’t have effort to put more behind it or we don’t want to go but i
(1:13:05) yeah but i do suck at lying i do don’t they say that about like a lot of uh relationships just beginning lies well honeymoon stage not on purpose i think i think people don’t realize that they’re putting their best foot forward because they’re just they’re in love and they’re showing all their good cards and then you know it’s like when the honeymoon or the infatuation stage which is until like six months i think dies down that’s when you’re like i’m in a bad mood i say two years is the honeymoon stage
(1:13:42) but i’m super i feel like mercedes um would agree maybe um i’m super like i’m pretty raw and i like i’m pretty open with who i am and if i’m feeling like i’m a mess then i tell you i’m feeling like i’m a mess i’m not in a great mood whatever and so um i don’t know i think it’s i think dating me is yeah i don’t know i’ve never dated you myself but i have that um but yeah i mean i’m sure we all we all tell lies all day long to the world around us but uh i think
(1:14:19) so i don’t know what my answer is to that whatever yeah i guess i’d rather be able to detect any liar here even though that sounds like a lonely ass life all right question right there’s a few short questions like to ask everyone who comes on the show um first off if you could hug your younger self right now what would you say [Music] it’s gonna be okay um how old were you hugging uh probably like 9 10 11 yeah that’s right when your dad decided to yeah depart we all need to hear that man often i think i could hear it today yeah um if
(1:15:04) you if you could have the whole world read one book which would it be are you a book reader no no i just started so like i like listened to this podcast recently that like um told me to uh that we’re super addicted to not just social media but we’re addicted to our phones or addicted to emails like we have dopamine that like we go to our phone for that new text message or that social media or that email it’s like we’re just so [ __ ] by the phone right so he was like you need to like cleanse
(1:15:34) your brain of if people could do it they won’t if people could do it they should do like seven to ten days so like on fourth of july i went to um i went to thailand and i turned my phone off for seven days and um and i read books i read richard branson’s book which is that the [ __ ] up one like becoming well coming becoming a virgin oh never mind sorry what do you mean it’s not [ __ ] up it’s just that’s just no no i thought i thought i’m thinking of richard manson or whatever his name is no no no you know i’m not reading
(1:16:09) charles manson books no i thought you were talking about um everything is [ __ ] up i thought you were yeah oh you wrote that also sorry richard branson did i think so i don’t know we might have to edit this party but anyway that’s not the book i would tell everyone to read but i went and that’s the last book i read i’m still reading it but um uh it’s big um the the first and only book i read for a long time was called the power one and and i don’t know why but it was um it was it was a very good book and it stuck in
(1:16:49) my mind okay power one i haven’t read that i’m we’re gonna put that on the show notes so the power of one i’m writing it down now i like what you said in the beginning though um i was reading on my phone the other day that the average person checks their phone over 150 times a day 150 times crazy right completely believable oh yeah for sure yeah that you know goes to what we were talking about earlier if we can understand our just ourselves you know at whatever age you are listening to this but
(1:17:20) also our younger generation if we can help them to understand that we are these walking bags of chemicals and it’s just a matter of how we allow our chemicals to be manipulated throughout the day through the way we’re perceiving life that’s happening for us not to us so just the science behind that i obviously am fascinated by and and not just the the fact you brought up about how much we check our phones but i mean the way that it affects our chemicals in our body you know and we can all become imbalanced and we do all become
(1:17:51) imbalanced as far as our chemicals go energy often yeah it’s energy and we’re like either like think about all the energy you’re taking in from your phone and from media and stuff like that but it’s everything though it’s text messages it’s it’s it’s everything that comes into your phone it’s not just social media social media if you get the dopamine quicker and faster but it’s everything we’re just we’re just we’re just now needed validation addiction to stress
(1:18:20) um you know uh needing to feel busy yeah so yeah so much goes like that that’s what i’ve done a couple times this year i did like one like seven day where i wasn’t on social media for seven days yeah um that was a weird thing but then once you’re back into it you just kind of live in life again and what i try and do now is is like on weekends i try and not um i don’t really go on social media like i don’t post or i try and like stay away as much as i can obviously there’s other times you just you can’t
(1:18:50) but i’ve like you know tried to like get my weekends back by like just doing small things like that and like putting that into your life and knowing that like it’s not everything you know like being abducted into everybody else’s world is is not what we were meant to be here for yeah that was one of my goals this year i earlier in the year did mushrooms on a saturday and um like the whole saturday i felt like i experienced 70 years of like and at the end of the day i was like look at all i accomplished on a saturday
(1:19:20) without my phone because even though i was on mushrooms i was like all of this was from being off my phone actually it wasn’t the drugs it was from being off my phone and so i said okay from now on phone free saturdays because look at all you accomplish when you’re not on your phone yeah and i’m sad to say that i did not do that but um you did not stick to that but every week i say that i will so i really i really just need the discipline and it’s all work-related stuff but i really need the discipline and um that i’m
(1:19:51) i am going to do it i just need to find a way to this is a good reminder yeah all right if you could whisper one phrase to everyone on the planet what would it be oh wow that’s a weird one [Laughter] you don’t have to whisper you could uh what’s the difference between whispering and just saying it well whisper is like you gotta get in real close and be intimate with them you know you could just say it like god if you want wow i don’t know the future belongs to the misfits that’s just that because
(1:20:24) it’s my tagline everybody should [ __ ] know it but it’s true too i mean in a sense it’s been your tagline and at the same time it’s kind of what you’re embodying in a sense like you know you you say make the cool kids not cool and the uncool kids cool it’s kind of the same thing you know yeah the misfits yeah we’re all misfits we’re all weirdos even the cool so it’s true all kinds of drama and shitty stuff going on it’s so true so luke before we let you go where can people find you online
(1:20:57) um find your grind for like the platform for everything we kind of talked today about today says find your grind the website the apps find your grind instagrams find your grind and then me i am the bingo and snow for everything that is ever out there okay amazing so i just want to say before we let you go that i am where’s this light it’s it’s look angelic now you’ve got the angel light on again i’m a huge fan of all you’re doing dingo with your platform and i i think your efforts and the work
(1:21:31) you’re doing is really changing people’s lives and not just the kids you speak to but also the adults who are watching you make major moves towards um finding a way to be of service during your time spent on this planet so it’s really incredible stuff and i know i’m deeply inspired by it so thank you for being with your life thank you i i when i briefly dated austin carlisle and met you through him um [Music] like really late at night i don’t think anybody was sober um but then after and then never again after that and then now
(1:22:08) preparing for this episode i was like man i wish i had actually gotten to know the guy back then such a light so oh thank you so much girls that means the world yeah i’m just here just doing my pot yay thanks luke cool okay so that’s it all you have to do is end your call and we will get your audio and um but don’t end until i say bye no i’m not going to end it until you say bye but what do i do i just hit stop video um oh wait he’s recording no no i’m not recording i see a recording up on the left so i don’t have to do
(1:22:44) anything oh no on the yeah you just hang up audio so i got confused we get his audio i’m saying i hope you do yeah i’m recording it okay so you’re good to go thank you so much girls thank you we’ll let you know when this is coming out we’ll send you uh we make little promo videos and stuff for it so we’ll send you all that good stuff in there cool and then we’ll do vice versa i want to get you guys on the find your grind ones oh that’d be amazing we can share yeah me too thank you thank you soon bye
(1:23:27) it’s always so awkward trying to get the old field zoom hanging so we’re like looking with smiles like waiting oh god okay so fatal flaw well not fatal but oh [ __ ] i didn’t hit record on audacity until this i’d already asked one question so i have to say my pieces at some point or i think he can take it from zoom so i’m gonna see he’s taking his from zoom but i don’t know how he does that if he separates the audio or not because the well the video because it comes separate too so i think he can just take mine
(1:24:01) from that but just in case i can always record it it might be easier for him whatever’s easiest for john yeah all right ah i really like dingo i don’t know it still feels weird calling him dingo i don’t know if you say luke or dingo but i love luke dingo what is a dingo it’s a i think it’s like a type of dog but it’s an australian a dingo my baby you’ve never heard that say no oh it’s i don’t know what it’s from some old movie someone’s gonna comment about this episode with exactly
(1:24:36) what it is and be it will be a shame that we we’ve forgotten don’t know because i did yes but apparently that was an important information for my brain to hold on to all right what’s your magic trick today jade um so mine is it’s pretty simple and i’m sure it’s not the first time you’ve heard it but it’s worded differently um to ask yourself what were you worried about three problems ago a lot of times people say like three years ago or whatever but what were you worried about three problems ago
(1:25:10) um can you remember you don’t have to say what it was but um i can’t remember anything usually i can’t remember this morning yeah we tend to and i’m sober i just have two toddlers yeah i tend to think that our problems are so urgent though and and need all of our attention right now but that anxiety and urgency is never what ends up solving the problem and you’re actually putting yourself through it twice by worrying so much about it so whether the problem you had three problems ago solved itself or
(1:25:40) it blew up you’re still here and um even reading this which by the way this um this question what were you worried about three problems ago was something my favorite writer elizabeth gilbert um posted but even after reading that quote and formulating this magic trick i still today thought my problems needed all my attention and i barely breathed all day i can’t remember the morning and i can guarantee you that three problems from now the ones from today will be completely solved and most likely forgotten so my invitation for you is
(1:26:11) not only to ask yourself that question but to also just allow that the fact that you don’t remember it most likely allow that to make us feel how small everything really is and know it’s all a part of the path to get us to where we’re going and we’re learning with each problem solved or unsolved i like that it reminds me of um when you’re in a real pickle or you feel like i just this is overwhelming and i can’t deal to think of what will you think about this situation in five years from now
(1:26:49) you know kind of putting yourself in that same perspective of this might seem huge and overwhelming this problem might seem big right now but the perspective is all that matters and so if you can realign that and your success rate for getting through bad days and getting through problems is a hundred percent so we’re all doing pretty good what’s your magic trick all right my magic trick is when saving people’s contacts in your phone name them with the title that highlights their largest career and personal goals
(1:27:18) so for instance jade you’re saved in my phone as world renowned space healer top-ranked podcast pope world-renowned sacred space holder why can’t i not [ __ ] say this today i don’t know i’ll listen to it a couple times [Laughter] okay um for instance jade you’re saved in my phone as world renowned sacred space holder top ranked podcast host cherished mother and prolific healer okay okay again we might need sacred space holder that’s nice you need me to say that one more time top ranked podcast host i when i was on a dating
(1:28:04) app there were a couple of guys i guess would look me up and they’d be like so you host a five-star podcast and i was like hey i like hearing that i like when you put it that way when you put it that way yes cherished mother and prolific healer thank you yes i accept i accept i feel like i mean i’m not i mean i’m saying it it can be a compliment to you i hope it is but it’s also the things that i know you want most yeah that’s and especially into my life though so every time you call to i see that pop up so it’s like
(1:28:40) you know a way to make it resonate more i don’t know to do that to my phone um mercedes you just have a crystal ball and two dancing women next to yours i mean i kind of need that too though that’s good that’s like calling in my geminin femininity it used to be a fork and knife because we like we’re always obsessed with like where’s the food we’re in survival mode when are we going to my god i love it oh well i like about that that’s a great idea i am going to put that into practice cool it’s a simple tip yeah
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(1:29:40) listen to some of our past episodes in our podcast library we will meet you there until then be a lie [Music] big thank you to at rayton royal for our intro jam and to john aaron garza from real inmotion protection productions for producing the show stay magical friends um your phone wherever it is has been super loud the whole really yeah so i don’t know if that’s going to be an issue i didn’t hear it much when you were talking on this last thing but if you want to see that last piece again you could just so
(1:30:12) my co-workers just started um trying to decide what we’re wearing on thursday so it’s been stopped well i don’t know why but it’s really loud wherever it’s sitting this time that’s so weird because i don’t hear it at all and it’s on a cushion that is weird but you can put it on silent by just swiping down in the little you know but if your phone is open it still vibrates even if it’s on silent or even even if it’s on the nighttime mode it still vibrates but why are you
(1:30:36) looking at it we’re podcasting no because i’m using my notes as my thing oh you didn’t print it no it got messed up when during the move okay um do you want to say that last piece just by ritter in the middle of that one big thank you to at rayton royal for our intro jam and to john aaron garza from real in motion productions for producing the show same magical friends i hope the dog that was barking in the first half of this interview wasn’t super loud could you hear it on my end no there were kids outside my window but
(1:31:08) i heard those a couple times but there’s a damn dog literally barking every three seconds somewhere in my neighborhood um so john this last note is for you i didn’t uh record on audacity until jade uh got into her question her second question which was the one that says what the hell does it say page two of this thing um she says during the time in your life uh is that the right one yeah i think it’s during the time in your life um when you’re really struggling through your own darkness what’s helped you see the light at the
(1:31:57) end of the tunnel when you thought all that was hopeless something like that um i started recording then so you might have to use my audio from zoom or i can go back and record uh have your feedback to him it’s all on zoom that’s what i’m saying yeah so i guess it doesn’t matter to redo it on audacity yeah i don’t think it matters and um i think the intro was a good read too even if it’s not we have two from the recording well we didn’t record we didn’t record the full intro remember we just
(1:32:33) recorded the bio oh today yeah but you recorded the bio on the intros the other time yeah i think this one was a good one but the problem is it’s on zoom it’s not on audacity because i didn’t record it oh yeah but anyway uh john that might be really confusing feel free to give me a call if you are confused on that because it’s kind of a lot to explain we’re not recording we’re not airing this for another over at least over a month okay i’m stopping audacity got a little boring here and there but
(1:33:06) i know i told you that’s how you know kind of rambly but it’s still i mean if we if we trim it down which isn’t fun but if we trim it down it it can be really good um i think because of who he is and like people well it’s the hero’s journey so that’s what makes it good but the whole like um yeah this network and the network and then mtv said this and then abc said that it was like no i know plus i don’t want any really of that on just generally yeah hey like yeah that’s not interesting but
(1:33:40) yeah okay but it has potential um i really am excited for tomorrow i’m really tired i need to get some really good sleep tonight all right you ready to go do we have anything else we need to do right now um i wanted to let you know on that um did you get the calendar invite um for september 11th uh where that’s when we’re gonna do sylvie you put a new one today yeah oh my god my hand is getting older i just came from intense wrinkles [Music] random where was sylvie’s i thought she already was scheduled for something
(1:34:26) because she had an emergency with a client remember it was oh and then she just booked it right now yeah you’re available the 11th right you said you didn’t have anything that week besides our event yeah okay so we’ll do that and then um are you going to book your flights or yeah i got to do that i’m going to put on my little right now i’ve been trying to figure out when i’m if chris is going to come what day should i come in then i’m thinking well let’s recreate it yeah let’s let’s um
(1:34:55) let’s run a studio on saturday our events on sunday um i’m supposed to go to eric godsey too you know did you book that no right uh he records his um on the weekends this is the only time he can use the studio so that that works out perfectly what time are we going to record i added i haven’t i haven’t even i’ve been only focused on the event um but we’re not recording anything on the first weekend of the month i mean the first week of the month because that’s gonna all