(00:00) through if it still did that yeah yeah i mean it did with um with chris if you yeah oh yeah yeah so you should be good to let me take this underwear on my doorknob i bet you’re gonna stay off off me even admirable okay okay so everything go with the recording we’re good to go i’m going to mute the live recording again so i just started a new one hopefully it’ll pick up all three of our picture system and jimmy everything was like easy to understand for you nothing seemed confusing i’m okay no for audacity we need to know for

(00:42) other people because they’re much more [ __ ] than you are so yeah everything worked out like one guest told me it was too technological like he was like no there’s there’s one button you have to press that’s red and it starts recording i think it’s like downloading it all i don’t know it makes me feel so much better thank you jimmy okay guys well i’ll leave you i’ll i’ll leave you to it i’ll meet the mic if you need me just text me thanks okay okay say cheese okay um i think i crossed one eye and closed

(01:17) one which was really weird for me okay um jimmy just obviously i’m sure you know because you’ve been on plenty of podcasts but um please share as not like an edit if you change your mind yeah please share as deeply and intimately as you feel like you would if we were not hanging out together yeah as if we were at the buffet at the casino but i have clothes on it i know it’s different um if later you change your mind we can just take it out and um yeah we will give you the last call basically on the episode as far as wanting anything

(01:56) edited out that you didn’t want said um but still because jimmy’s got a lot of echo is this going to be any issue i can change rooms if it’s i hear an echo but it um i just know we’ve had so many issues with that i can change rooms it’s just better here yeah so that’s what i want just adam can listen to all of us at the same time so i want him to i just text him um what’s the problem sorry just say a few things for us real quick you hear that you hear that echo in his room is that echo gonna be a problem

(02:46) i mean i don’t think we’re gonna get the guest recording absolutely perfect um so i think it’d be fine i think it look let me put my earphones on can’t jimmy you have is that a door that you can close behind you will it help i know it’s closed right now oh [Laughter] um jimmy do you have a pick your poison um idea oh where it was north south after the guy with or like would you rather get kicked in your liver or your nuts nuts i mean i don’t know it could be silly or it can be like something super random

(03:21) that doesn’t have to do with mma also but anything yeah totally i mean you have anything that would be like things that would be really [ __ ] hard for you to choose from like our last one was like would you want to be straight it was a dating episode it was like would you want to be stranded on a desert island with your ex like the one you’re in minimum security jail for a year and then we had would you rather go on a date with someone who slid up in your dick in your dm with a dick pic or lick a toilet seat public toilet seat

(03:50) well very questions that don’t apply to me at all um yeah no we want it to apply to you that’s why we had trouble coming up with it yeah no i’m a pretty hearty resilient person um i know i’m like what would jimmy not want to do i mean probably north south choke was someone who ate a bunch of cheese or is like super gassy isn’t fun for anybody but i don’t think you have a good sense of smell right oh i thought before you told me that you don’t have like a really strong sense of stress okay i mean i’m

(04:23) not sensitive nothing really like random facts you know about someone maybe being on the road too long yeah it’s true oh yeah no i just don’t um nothing like freaks me out like you know like yeah like bugs or something yeah i know i don’t have any phobias nothing really like but what what would be funny for your life there’s nothing short for me yeah that’s why we’re thinking like what’s something just funny then like like people that like are a fan of yours um you know what we could do jade that

(04:56) we lost on that episode we did was um 10 inches tall or 100 feet tall for a day 10 inches taller would you rather be 10 inches tall or a hundred feet tall for you for a day yeah that’s a good one go big or go home i would be gigantic for a day let’s just do that one okay we’ll just do that inconvenient but fine yeah okay let’s do that remind me of it if we if i can’t remember gonna remember it at the time okay this is gonna be interesting because we already have a hard enough time not talking over each other jade as it is

(05:35) now we have jimmy and when we’re with jimmy i know how we’re always like so the chicken coop i mean jimmy throwing out food okay adam what do you think of the echo is it okay that’s fine ace it’s fine yeah i don’t have a problem with it to be honest it appears that i’ll absorb some of them you closer to the microphone definitely seemed to help as well where’s next to his face yeah i know but when he moved forward we got it through your computer so that’s interesting why is that it should just be through the mic yeah

(06:13) yeah go close to your computer just real quick test the test to test these no maybe it’s just for the reflection the reverberation off your computer okay um jimmy you love us that’s why you do this [ __ ] i do love you it doesn’t matter like can you come on my show okay just [ __ ] let us have fun jimmy it’s like playing tea time i love you both it’s like tea time jimmy would come to a tea party if we invented this dress it looks good with your eyes all right i would do whatever i had to do all right jade um intro

(06:53) or bring me in with that last sentence before the intro okay everyone hit record i’m i’m solid let me just check my ecam that it’s still running because we’re gonna have a really long one to download later yeah jimmy you’re good on audacity yes it’s still recording okay um okay let me make this full screen so not to touch anything else okay um he really is like a brother to us and has seen us through so much oh that’s not that’s my whole life yes he has we have both been truly lucky

(07:36) to have him in our lives so without further ado let me introduce to you today’s guest who not only holds the world’s record for most hours spent listening to two ring girls [ __ ] and moan about their love lives but who’s also a bona fide historian a world-renowned mma expert a black belt in jiu jitsu it’s quite impressive big deal yeah probably the most esteemed quoter of the movie anchorman ever to have exactly also a big deal yes exactly a pitbull rescuer restorer of awesome old cars likely the most calm confident man on

(08:18) the planet a self-proclaimed human garbage disposal whom jade and i can both um we can vouch for that we’ve had a lot of dinners with the guy a rockabilly fan and the best damn color commentator in the business hands down please welcome today’s guest jimmy smith that is the biggest introduction i’ve ever received in my entire life well we love you jimmy i love you guys too and i miss both of you and it’s awesome seeing you ian’s just on the screen we’re so stoked you’re here and by the

(08:55) way you’re our first guest and first male guest which was important to you i know first guest ever huge deal for me i would have been devastated if you had gone with somebody else right the worst guest ever so jimmy for those of you who are listening and don’t know what your job as a color commentator is um could you break down what that all entails for us you know what’s crazy is is the number of people that just have no idea the difference between like play-by-play and color they just have no idea i one

(09:27) one thing i get all the time uh is whatever somebody doesn’t like sean grander i don’t like goldie there’s only anakin i’ll be like can’t you guys do it without them i’m like that’s like saying can’t the stewardess fly the airplane or no they have totally different jobs we can’t do that so my job basically as a color commentator is the play-by-play guy does all the setup he does everything you can kind of see with your own eyes meaning uh good leg kick and arm kick and good

(09:54) combination and he’s doing this and he’s moving anything a regular person could kind of see with their own eyes that’s what he does um also they do all the ins and outs from commercials welcome back to round two it’s so it’s over so that’s all play-by-play uh color the best way to describe it is the play by play is the who and the what who’s fighting what they’re doing and i’m the why and the how why they’re doing what they’re doing and how they’re doing it so the technical stuff that

(10:17) most people wouldn’t know that’s my job but everything else is play that place so basically what every mma fan thinks is their dream job but could probably never pull off because oh yeah how much work broadcast has it you know everybody thinks they can do it it’s a really complicated job and everybody thinks they can do it and it’s not easy at all ain’t that easy oh my god it’s not so that’s the funny part of the job again that’s still a dream job though i think for sure um especially because of the travel um

(10:49) and you’ve traveled a lot you know not only because of the job but just you’re you’re an avid traveler which is awesome me too um also mercedes all three of us um i met mercedes uh we’re in amsterdam hanging out yeah busting groceries oh jealous um awesome well tell us your favorite travel story yeah ooh favorite channel story oh my god i’m gonna guess i built in thailand but yeah i don’t know i’ve heard so many though that are just gnarly i i want to see what you bring up right now

(11:19) wow i know the one with mom’s mom’s has gotta be good too amsterdam and mom’s i mean i was there okay okay so i’ll do that one um i heard that from your mom by the way yeah yeah um so mercedes you were there we weren’t hanging out yeah yeah right not the day of the most eventful happenings of that right exactly so i’m in what happened was we were doing a show in england somewhere and a few bellator people went hey man let’s let’s hang out in amsterdam on the way there and you know spend a few days hanging out and

(11:50) partying whatever and i said yeah sure so we set up the trip and then i’m having dinner with my mother and i told her yeah i go in amsterdam whatever month it was she goes i want to go and i said okay but if you go with us and you’re not in bed at nine o’clock no way you’re hanging out with us you’re rolling how we roll and my mom who everybody knows is totally down with that she’s like hey great no problem and so she went to amsterdam with us and she made everybody hanging out with feel

(12:17) like [ __ ] because mom was just smoking them under the table she was just out drinking everybody she uh she so i did mushrooms in the park with my mother and she had never done them before ever oh my god just curled up a little ball to park a laugh in her house oh my god my 70 year old mom and she just had a blast man just went toe-to-toe with everybody and hung out and did everything so we spent a day wandering around amsterdam on mushrooms and mom just like i said out smoking everybody drinking everybody we’re all

(12:50) done we get back to her place she’s staying in this nice kind of like hotel hostel thing hotel like airbnb thing and we’re in the living room and mom goes who wants gin and pulls out this big trip and they were like oh mom i can’t keep up with your mom like it’s crazy so that was that’s an awesome story where i i went out and got do you feel like any part of like the fact that you went and tripped with your mom did it affect your trip at all in a in any direction oh that was awesome we had a great time it was a lot

(13:22) of fun now i love y’all’s chemistry together oh yeah dynamic it’s pretty awesome we traveled there before and she’s just great so it’s not like yeah it was weird i mean like we’ve traveled time so so she’s she’s she’s uh adventurous is the best way to pronounce it she’s 70 years old she’s in great shape 71 now she swims 40 laps a day in the pool and that doesn’t you know she’s just she’s just a little firecracker so uh and recently retired math teacher

(13:47) right yeah so awesome like 35 years or something so she recently retired so she’s like now whenever i go somewhere it’s like if i know they’re with me oh my god no problem she’s cool she was in israel with us yeah yeah yeah i tried to get her to go to jordan to petra she really wanted to go but it didn’t work out i was so bad yeah well she went to masada to the mud pits with everyone in bellator yeah i did the fight interview so she just left me at home and everything belter loves my mom so much

(14:16) and she was like yeah she’s so lovable and she just went and left me you know who she reminds me of um and i mean this in the best way possible because i wish that this was my aunt she reminds me of aunt jackie from roseanne a little bit no yeah i can see like the the little i mean that is possible because she is she’s the reason why i watched the show you know so but i don’t know if i would want to do mushrooms with my mom but i definitely want to do ayahuasca with my mom for sure my mom if okay like

(14:49) i don’t think have either of you met my mom nope susan susan is like everyone who has met my mom is like your mom is just a genuine hippie she says she’s a flower child she doesn’t like to give herself really i wouldn’t have expected that strange but i mean she still you know getting wild all the time she’s way more wild than me like way more wild so i don’t think i could keep up with her for a hot second at all um i was gonna ask the just sideline so your mom was a math teacher you became a math teacher for a little hot

(15:29) minute of your life there was why like did that have any connection to your mom yeah i mean it did partly because what i was i worked for long beach school district and i i fought that’s that when i was fighting that’s what i did because you’re done at 3 30 you’re down at three o’clock you can go train at night whatever so the reason i ended up teaching math longer than any other subject was i would work for the district testing kids and then when they needed a teacher i would go in there and

(15:54) teach for however long they needed well my mother’s teaching partner she taught sixth grade the seventh grade math teacher was out for some reason and she goes jimmy please give me gum teach and i was like wow all right fine i’ll do it is the worst so the reason i taught that grade and i thought as long as i did all stuff was it was because it was out for my mom’s school and she needed help and uh so anyway so when i didn’t when i was teaching something the kids didn’t get it um my mom’s not as good at math as i am

(16:22) which is kind of funny so the but what makes her a good teacher because she doesn’t always get it so she asks for all these tricks to get stuff i don’t and so whenever i the kids want to understand something i would call my mother on the phone who was like three doors down and go how do you teach this she goes well watch my class and i’ll come over and teach them how to do that i went okay and we would switch and she would teach them some trick to do it and then i would come back and ask so yeah were you often showing up with like

(16:50) you know bruised eyes and broken nose and that type of stuff yeah sometimes yeah the kids knew okay yeah the kids knew it wasn’t like it wasn’t illegal or anything so yeah yeah you know mr jimmy played you know so yeah it was just the schedule let me let me fight you know because i was over it was over three o’clock in the afternoon so yeah that’s what i did when i was doing my fight group crazy and history too right like a little bit yeah my degrees i taught everything i taught history i thought math i thought i taught

(17:25) chemistry in summer school for high school kids for three months that’s why you still fly with the ladies right i mean it’s crazy chemistry yeah yeah so i i just taught a lot of different subjects so it’s kind of funny cool well you you show it uh i don’t know i don’t know in which ways exactly but you you’re a smart ass for sure in most ways so i was going to bring up though that something very interesting about you that most people don’t know and maybe even when they’re hanging out with you they don’t

(17:58) even notice is that you don’t drink alcohol you’ve actually never had a sip of alcohol ever which is also interesting because your mom when y’all are together she drinks so um yeah tell us the reason behind that though yeah you just told you [Laughter] my dad was an alcoholic on a level that’s hard to even like other alcoholics you know hear stories my so my dad was really really bad like he was on on you know his own scale basically and then um but my whole family’s bad like they’re all bad

(18:41) but my dad was really bad and so it’s on both sides of my family i just saw all the time when i was a kid i just oh i always had to deal with it um my mom tells me the story when i was a toddler where he was driving or something and for some reason he hadn’t had a drink in the morning and um we’re in the car and he was driving he started convulsing he started shaking and uh yeah and so he started shaking he couldn’t drive and he pulled the car over and starts like convulsing and [ __ ] and the uh a cop

(19:12) saw it and came over and thought he was having a seizure and my mom had to explain no he’s fine and he was like twitching and like shaking and [ __ ] apparently they got him a drink and he was fine but you know wow so it was a withdrawal yeah oh no i saw that i’d go through dt’s uh in a coma tied to a bed oh wow yeah so yeah it’s all before the age of like when you would decide to drink or not no the dt thing was after i was an adult then um but yeah just the first i remember i don’t remember

(19:43) deciding really um there wasn’t like a moment when you were like i don’t want to be like this yeah the earliest thing i remember is i my dad my my parents got divorced i was about eight or nine years old and so this is before that so i may be six or seven and i’m at home with my dad and he’s he’s um he’s drinking a wine cooler those were popular in the 80s for people and so anyways and you know as a six-year-old that looks like it looks like kool-aid you don’t really know them and i i must have said something i was staring

(20:17) at it and i said what is that and he goes oh it’s a it’s a wine clue and it’s the thing with wine and he turns and he goes do you want some and i went no and he goes it’s not that i was not that strong you know and i went and that’s the first time i remember going i don’t like that stuff whatever that stuff is i don’t like it so that’s the first time i remember being kind of like kind of freaked out like freaked out by this now i don’t i hadn’t decided it’s sick because i wouldn’t

(20:43) drink yeah but was it because you you like linked it to the behaviors that you didn’t like in him or yeah that and i mean i had a grandmother who um on my mom’s side she would drink and her her bedroom was down this hallway and there were pictures on either side of the hallway and i would walk behind her like this to get her to bed and she would knock all the pictures off the wall oh wow kind of this one yeah and i sit her down and whatever she’s and you know that was just all the time i mean you know it was always somewhere i mean like

(21:22) you know but it’s on both sides of my family so yeah i was always seeing it or dealing with her like you know it’s so interesting that you chose to broke the break the cycle though when like it just seemed to be a generational curse almost oh yeah no it’s bad um yeah um it’s also just a unique thing about my personality socially that yeah dead but you’re so free with psychedelics and stuff and that doesn’t necessarily make you feel in control necessarily so slow deaths bother me and drinking’s a

(21:59) slow death my dad did yesterday you can’t do mushrooms every [ __ ] day and functions that’s a really good point yeah yeah so what scared me most about alcohol was it didn’t seem to bug anybody that dad could wake up and have a bloody mary you know like i asked my mom one time when did you realize dad had a problem and she went um about the time your sister was born well my sister’s three years older than me this is 1974.

(22:26) they were together another 10 years or 12 years and i said what if well what you know why didn’t you realize how bad it was and she turned him she goes jimmy i’m drinking too yeah so i’m having two he’s having five right so you didn’t really my whole family drank so the fact that smitty was his name his nickname nobody called him his roommate um drank more than everybody else it took a while to realize he can’t stop or so they were like functioning alcoholics they just didn’t they didn’t feel like

(22:56) it was alcoholism because everyone was doing it was normal normalized yeah right so what gets me about drug use is that the idea that you can wake up and do something you know when people tell me i’m on adderall to wake up and this to go to bed it’s like every day they it’s just they can do that and nobody says you know you should probably i know if i walk around blasted on mushrooms i can’t somebody would say what the [ __ ] is wrong with jimmy my dad could drink every single [ __ ] day and nobody ever

(23:30) went you better cut that out you know like so what bothers me about alcoholism and the reason i stay away from this it had this insidious ability to you could do it pretty consistently for years and nobody thought anything up until you did something horrible and so drugs don’t work that way i can’t you know yeah they don’t scare me as much is because i do mushrooms every day i mean the last time i was with my mother in amsterdam okay so there’s there’s a certain um automatic control system in my head where where

(24:03) i’m not gonna go crazy every day on my head work so um drugs you can do every day freaking out i don’t do any medication i i don’t wanna i don’t i don’t wanna because that scares me the idea that you can take a pill sorry go ahead i was just gonna say that um i don’t know if this is similar to you but for me it’s like having something that i need in order to survive essentially or to socialize yeah it takes my ability to have control of things away which i don’t like like i feel i need to

(24:40) be in control but you jimmy are okay with experimenting with psychedelics and things that definitely take your control away in a lot of ways but temporarily and add growth instead of lower lower vibration and frequency it raises your vibration and frequency my dad was a chainsmoker i he didn’t not change or i mean but let me know whatever um did you enjoy smoking reflex at a certain point so it to me the idea of doing something harmful which drugs are reflexively like oh light of cigarette you’re not enjoying it necessarily

(25:19) you know what i mean a drug you can do a drug you can do every day sorry no you’re fine a drug you can do every day what the [ __ ] sorry it’s okay a drug you can do every day um scares me much more than a drug that you kind of lose your [ __ ] every six months yeah that doesn’t really scare me as much at all as much doing something every day that preaching what do you think he would have done if one of y’all in the family asked him told him that what he was doing was not okay and asked him to stop it

(26:03) at least every day good question let me tell you something i’m from a family of addicts as well so i’ve asked family members to stop give me one second yes what’s up babe i’m doing the interview what’s going on what’s up okay hold on while we’re breaking i need to call you guys here can you hear me yeah hold on hey are you listening to something downstairs yeah i’m turning it down it’s super i didn’t hear anything loud so can you please turn it all the way down i didn’t hear anything just so you

(26:53) know all right thank you but for chris he’s trying to do yoga i’m like turn that [ __ ] [ __ ] off get in here mess up his whole vibe so so start over with a question and i can um yeah so jd you’re gonna say about your family uh having addicts in your family yeah so coming from a family of addicts as well and a lot of alcoholism and drug addicts i and just prescription meds um i’m curious what would have happened had you or someone else in your family asked him to stop drinking or at least told him that drinking every day is not okay

(27:30) because i have tried that in my family and i’m curious what what you feel would have happened or did anyone try that let me tell you a story one time my brother was talking to my dad about smoking and he goes it’s really bad for you i don’t know why you do that and my dad looked at him he goes have you ever seen one of those pictures of smokers along next to a non-smoker’s line and my brother yeah i was disgusting and my dad goes what killed the other guy you know my dad was really really smart basically

(28:02) i’m gonna die either way yeah i mean my dad was very very smart so so um smart but still not but he’s not taken he’s not taking was not taking the suggestion of a six-year-old that’s not the way my dad thought no he wouldn’t have by the time the short answer to your question would have made any difference he would not have secondly um my dad started drinking uh moonshine it ten and then regular alcoholic twelve and uh he’s from kentucky by the way so anyway um so they made their own [ __ ] yeah so that stuff can start a car i

(28:42) mean literally um so yeah so number one he wouldn’t stop b the level of alcohol he was would have required like medication and treatment and you know i mean it can kill you at that point so it isn’t a normal like he could have stopped like you know it’s so no he wouldn’t first off secondly the level of care it would have taken to even safely get him off would have been tough um but yeah he didn’t give [ __ ] that wasn’t gonna that wasn’t gonna make any difference [Music] did um do you feel like it turned him off kind

(29:14) of emotionally towards your family the alcohol because i know that it’s like it it i feel like um it just it lowers your frequency and like causes you not to feel things and be as warm my dad was never warm so i don’t the the the question i’ve been asked before that that is hard is what was your dad i was some announcement what’s your dad like when he wasn’t drinking i don’t know he was an idol when i was born remember when i was he was 36 when i was born which is old and when i was born to

(29:51) have a kid he had been drinking um you know almost 30 years so i don’t know what he was like when he was you know i don’t know what it did to him it was he was like that when i was born so um he wasn’t emotional period now did alcoholism contribute to that of course it did but he wasn’t an emotional guy period he was never what so i i don’t know didn’t make him worse i guess it helped you know in a way to make him worse but i don’t i don’t really know he wasn’t an emotional guy anyway the level

(30:27) of of detachment my father was capable of is um frightening i mean really really incredible um does it do it is frightening are you afraid that that like lives in you and that could be a part of your life if you decided to go that route you know no yeah no no no i mean um all right all right so i told him his sister that when his sister died his sister died when she was like in her early 50s late 40s so young you know with no warning at all all right and they weren’t estranged or anything like he lived with her for a

(31:05) while and um i called him and i said um your sister died last night and he literally went oh how and i went it’s a stroke she had a shenanigans and died um no warning or anything he goes ah that’s weird doing that old and i went yeah and he goes and i went so um i have my uncle’s number if you want to call him they went why would i want to do that i’m like [ __ ] dad i i don’t know i don’t know i pretend you give a [ __ ] your sister died for five minutes right it was like i read it out of a newspaper

(31:45) it was someone he never heard of he went like if i told you um some historical figure died today yeah you go oh yeah that’s strange casual yeah that’s interesting you know like i was like you know so that’s when my dad reacted to stuff it was just like you know so i you know i yeah years of oculus i’m sure helped but he was just never an emotional guy ever so yeah so this is my last question alcohol related because it’s something i struggle with coming from a similar background do you um when you’re around other alcoholics that

(32:24) you’re not emotionally um involved with or emotionally attached to do you find yourself kind of like judging them or even someone you do care about a friend do you find yourself judging them or even feeling a little bit of anger towards them that they’re like choosing that lifestyle or i don’t hang out with anybody like that i mean i just don’t i mean you guys know me socially you guys have hung out with me i don’t have a lot of friends i just don’t hang out with very many people so well we’re lucky

(32:48) yeah you guys are lucky i do hang out with you but i don’t have like i don’t have a big social circle so um don’t you think too that when you when you’re building your friend group or as it evolves as you get older and your lifestyle and habits change um and especially since you’ve never been a drinker people who are heavy on drinking aren’t trying to hang out with people who aren’t drinking it’s just not it makes them uncomfortable yeah it’s a not comfortable situation for them so that’s a good question i’m

(33:16) stuck in a certain like zone because most people who don’t drink get on my nerves jimmy i’ve been around you at times when i thought you were drunk and then i was like oh yeah he doesn’t drink because you’re still such your energy is so like entertaining and good and like you can be at a bar at a blues bar in new orleans with the team and we can be everyone’s blues dancing and you you’re having a great time you don’t need it you know you need that liquid confidence it’s okay yeah all right

(33:43) that’s a very broad statement but but the first thing is like i said most people who don’t drink are recovering addicts or they’re religious or their health fanatics they’re people i don’t generally like hanging out with anyway so or they get really sanctimonious or like you know i’ve had people find out i don’t drink and start hitting me with all these rehab stories and i go no i never drink i don’t know like i don’t so oh you’re one of us i’m like no i where’s your coin for how many years i’m

(34:11) like i don’t do any of that [ __ ] like i don’t so it’s it’s really hard because alcoholics themselves aren’t generally fun to hang out with although i know a couple um but people who don’t drink at all are usually like you know [ __ ] man like no i’m not health obsessed yeah i’m not any of those things so their logic and their reasons are usually and i’m not gonna sit there and swap childhood stories about how [ __ ] up it is and why we don’t drink so so yeah it’s hard to find a middle ground

(34:40) because people on the extremes of either side kind of get on my nerves i don’t like them um and just been people who are drinking it’s mostly small talk and that gets on my nerves when it’s just yeah oh it’s just a small talk yeah it’s i’ve lived my whole life um without that so socially i’m just a little weird anyway you know it’s just like i’m just all three of us are though yeah we are but you know it’s just i i’ve never had it but it’s also um my experiences with people are way

(35:12) different than everybody else’s because i never drank so so are there electrons i just don’t have because i never did that do you think getting into fighting at a young age and being a part of that whole scene helped you turn around that early childhood stuff that was not all sunshine and rainbows and turn it into something something better for you yeah yeah it certainly did um like having an external thing to go to and do instead of drinking that took the place yeah um yeah it certainly did um a lot of people had a lot worse off than

(35:47) i did um so it’s it’s um it helped a lot i’ve always been a physical risk taker my whole life it’s just you know hey cool i can do that man no problem physical risk doesn’t really scare me very much so um it was a lot of fun and it it gave me a little bit of an outlet and and you know it’s it’s it was a good thing to fall back on i really enjoyed it it was a good outlet and and uh i love it man i always had yeah yeah is it so do you think that’s maybe where because you’re so good at it maybe like

(36:20) because a lot of people who grew up with a father like that would not be very confident and they would have a lower self image but you are one of the most confident men that we know and so like it’s interesting that you were able to you know still bring that up in in yourself is that from maybe being so good at fighting and you you know that in that way too yeah it’s it’s kind of funny um you guys and it’s really interesting because i and i get this a lot um wow wow you’re so confident you’ve only

(36:54) seen me do stuff i’m confident at right i i don’t i do the point when i host a television show people go man you look so confident yeah i’ve been doing that for like a dozen years now and i you guys know me you’ve seen me studying prep and all that stuff i i know everybody i’m talking about i um i never walk in unprepared i do all my homework i do all the fighter meetings i’m always on time and so so really it’s competence over confidence yeah it’s i mean i’m confident there’s a reason for it i mean

(37:19) i do a lot you don’t see me do things i’m not confident at especially in public so what are those we see around women what we see you around women though what does that have to do with it yeah like if you’re confident around women though like no i’m not i don’t really really so yeah i was going to ask you what are the things you’re you’d say you’re not confident in um have you ever seen me sing in public sing no i don’t [ __ ] sing i don’t have a good question i don’t do it um

(37:51) you know i don’t sing you do dance but i had to take dance lessons before i would dance in public oh okay so i don’t just yeah like i have because i’m not i’m not my dad didn’t dance at his own [ __ ] wedding okay so we didn’t grow up dancing when i was a kid and so um yeah so the the hardest thing was socially part of it was i was horrible with women because i don’t drink first off um yeah it’s tough and you buy girls drinks even though you don’t drink i never i’ve is that awkward i never have you like

(38:28) this yeah so the hard part is it’s like um all my my my social experiences are really weird they’re they’re kind of like i i i didn’t drink in college i never went to any parties in college i didn’t so the normal like apparatus people had to like get along and and i i just that that wasn’t me i didn’t know what to do i was always by myself so um i was alone a lot and my dad was a total loner so you know i i wasn’t socialized like everybody else when i was a kid so um i didn’t have any anything to to kind of

(39:08) get me over the hump and and and just to tie these two things together in a really weird way when my dad said no that was it that was the end of the [ __ ] conversation no can i have a cookie no that means you can’t look at it you can’t touch it you can’t have it until he says so so i got used to when i was a kid um i didn’t ask for anything twice ever so if i can’t have something i can’t have it so it made me horrible with women because do you want to go out i don’t think so that meant no that meant no you can’t

(39:44) have that and so okay i had it’s so funny i was kind of like designed for like the me too movement i was raped because as soon as i hear no i’m out like okay you’re designed to not be a part of it essentially there’s a me too jimmy’s story no cause as soon as i hear know i’m out like you know so when i was a young man and i heard all the time later well you’re not persistent enough you don’t you said no that’s it because the girls want the chase but then i mean i have a whole spiel on this that we’ll do in

(40:13) some other later podcast but yeah but that’s kind of given us the impression that you just don’t give a [ __ ] you know but it’s i guess it’s because you’re just like but jimmy is let me just interject real quick i think jimmy is you know whether that happened because of his upbringing or whatever but that idea of no means no is really the proper way to go about it because otherwise guys end up you know not knowing where the line is actually to be drawn if you girls yeah and then girls just play

(40:40) games like they oh well you learned your lesson you missed out because you said no you know instead of them just continuing to play games and also i was always i was always even when i was younger um i don’t know how to put this intimidating looking i don’t i’m not like the nice guy that like oh he’s harmless or whatever like i i don’t come off as harmless and so i i it also made me not pushy or aggressive because i would scare people right you know or like i’m sitting there reading you guys have seen it you i sit

(41:10) there and read and people come up to me and go are you all right and i’m like yeah and they’re like you look really mad i’m just thinking i’m just when i read yeah mercy is loud because you’ve seen it a million times yeah i’m sitting cage side reading and i’m like oh yeah it really is and people are like circle to get a [ __ ] away from yeah so so there’s that i went i went through europe when i was 23 years old i landed in london and i went down to greece spent three weeks with my family in my home’s greek and um

(41:38) went back up to london so i spent three months in europe at age 23. so right in my physical prime i was staying in all these hostels and stuff around a bunch of people my own age we were telling stories somewhere in southern italy and at this hostel around this fire and i was the only person in a group of 35 who hadn’t gotten laid and hadn’t gotten robbed wow because you don’t come up to me and think you’re gonna [ __ ] mug me and i won’t kill you you could just tell yeah you just don’t but that also when i was

(42:06) hanging out in a museum by myself nobody talked to me you know it’s just that’s like that’s that’s been the yin-yang of my personality my whole life is you know um people don’t [ __ ] with me ever but i also don’t give off like hey come approach me by it right you know yeah so it’s just those two things and i don’t drink to get over any of that stuff whatever i’ve never so i think about everything i’m doing before i do it which is the worst and you know it’s it’s i know you don’t want

(42:38) to you’re going to have a different podcast about it but but the hard thing growing up um like this personally is if you make a list in your head of the top five worst guys that you knew growing up and you made a list and then you also said a list of who got laid the most they line up pretty good um the guys i knew pushiest who went way beyond what i considered comfortable right they scored they they got laid all the time like they and i was like i would never do that and they got rewarded over and over and over

(43:09) again for their behavior and it was hard as a guy who didn’t do that to watch that stuff yeah this is the most peculiar part of it for me you know you know me i’m always into studying hormones and the endocrine system and that especially of late when you talk about someone who a man who is been a player and always got the girl and always was the aggressor and really found his ways in with women and found that easy [ __ ] [ __ ] maybe douchebags [ __ ] whatever you want to call them a lot of toads um they’re

(43:41) often heavier on testosterone you certainly see that you’re heavy on testosterone just i mean obviously from your background in fighting and just in general the type of person you are your jawline like there’s a lot of things i could call out that spell that out but somehow you were able to not let that hormone and you know encompass your brain your actual tendencies so there’s some thinking process that you really put into place you know maybe you just spelled it out yeah you over thought things almost i

(44:13) had a doctor tell me i had the highest natural testosterone levels you’d ever seen wow i don’t do i mean i’ve never done hgh i’ve never done any peds i’ve never done anything like that i’m not getting on moral high horse without it important thing to explain is back in my day when i was fighting i made 200 bucks a fight if i turn around and do pds i’d be a thousand bucks in the hole like i never made enough money or competed at a high enough level to do any [ __ ] felt like it and um back then in my day they didn’t have

(44:45) the designer steroids there were juice heads and they were just these big roided up monsters who gassed in like two minutes they hadn’t quite figured out you know how to do it for mma so it was something a lot of people did but they didn’t do it well like they were all like you know you can see those guys and they were done so i’ve never done anything like that and the doctor couldn’t believe he was dude like what do you want wow yeah yeah and i want nothing i don’t you know he goes wow he goes you’re in the natural range

(45:11) right but right at the top you’re pretty much you know so but you know guys you know i grew up my first nine years on an orange grove in the san joaquin valley in a little town called the rossi california which if you blank you missed it and you wouldn’t believe anybody live there okay that’s where i grew up and my nearest neighbor was like a mile and a half away um the school bus picked us up one at a time i was the first one picked up and the last one dropped off so um bus ride was like an hour um

(45:39) i was alone all the time so you learn to kind of like be a thinker because you’re always by yourself and so um i have a you know a brother we get along great um but it was pretty much us you know and so you just learned and i had somebody tell me like you’re one of the most self-reflective people i’ve ever met and i go well i agree i didn’t have anything to do but i think right yeah i think think about it yeah and think about stuff so it kind of made me a thinker so i never let that i never let any of my instincts

(46:12) get away from me because i always think about it i mean i it sounds stupid but i think about everything i do and so um yeah i never went ah [ __ ] it in in a social context i do that physically yeah i went i went cliff diving with my nephew i never cliffed out before in my life and i jumped off a 40-foot cliff and he was like when we’re done we’re flipping off you know and all this stuff he’s a parkour kid i love him and we’re doing all stuff and and he goes how many times have you done this i got never

(46:39) done before and he goes are you [ __ ] kidding me and i went no i’ve never this is i looked down i was like oh [ __ ] it and i jumped 40 feet and i’m used to just taking crazy physical risk that doesn’t mean anything to me the idea that i would walk up to somebody in a crowded bar and hit on them and they would shoot me down in front of everybody is like that is not happening like that i do jump off no problem but like so it it it um the way i was forced to think all the time about everything i i always think

(47:11) about things five or six moves ahead and so um yeah it made interacting with women awful because they don’t communicate the way my dad communicated where yes was yes and no no i’m saying this in a you know like a me too way i’m not saying women don’t know it but the vague signals i would get didn’t make just didn’t compute in my head i didn’t know what that meant and playing games in that way like chasing wanting a man to chase you as a woman is just not going to fly yeah no i don’t even

(47:41) understand that at all yeah so um i don’t either though yeah it’s a scary game it’s obviously we’re seeing it with the me too movement you can it’s a slippery slope let’s call it that yeah and so you know which is good for me because i’m not in that you know like there’s no hashtag me too about me because you know i always made sure somebody wanted to do something before i did it yeah and so um it you know it’s just it is what it is it’s just like but i had girls women i’m sorry say

(48:12) no and i would stop and they’d look at me like i was crazy like why why’d you stop yeah you just said no so for the loner out there or for the you know overthinking guy or whatever it is that someone who is in a similar circumstance than you might have been growing up um or who you are to this day really thinking about things like and not not wanting to cross that scary line especially in today’s age where guys don’t know what to do like it’s a slippery slope situation like we’re saying what is your advice on how to

(48:49) i guess bring the right type of attention from women to you or you know make an impression quickly with since that’s a vulnerable spot from you but you’ve had a lot of success in it anyway so you must have found oh no i mean ways tricks i i don’t have any i really don’t know what i think he just lets the women i come to him i i think it has like if i was to say what is it about jimmy i’d say it’s your charisma you know like you’re you’re a very charismatic person whether whoever you’re speaking to man

(49:20) woman whatever and it’s disarming you’re also willing to be vulnerable and that’s brings people to you whether they’re gonna you know try to get you to play a game or not yeah but i don’t know what that means i like you guys have hung out with me and a lot of like you guys are uniquely qualified to talk about because you you’re one of the few people hung out in a lot of situations you i’ve hung out with you guys i don’t know how many times people generally like me people generally get along with me i’m

(49:46) generally open and talkative and you know whatever you’re very adaptable yeah i feel but how that translates into anything beyond that is beyond me people don’t dislike me but i i you know the issue i had growing up um was i didn’t know how that translated into getting laid when i was younger like i i don’t i didn’t know because most people and everybody i talked to in college for example said oh yeah i don’t know unless i’m drinking like right yeah let’s just kind of take this huge leap that i at that time i

(50:27) didn’t know how to take i don’t know how to do that you know so um it was um yeah it was uh it was it was tough uh at that point in my life um but i don’t know you have to just it’s almost like fighting in a sense where where getting beat up is just part of it and you just have to you get a little closer every time i guess yeah i guess i don’t really know um [Music] i think you honestly it’s just like you’re vibrating at you’re kind of doing your own thing being jimmy and people having a good time the people that want

(51:09) to be around that are going to come you know yeah they’re going to have a good time either way yeah it’s just it’s it’s it’s a very um it’s a very um yeah it’s it’s a weird place to be because um you don’t have to have an answer yeah i mean like it doesn’t have to be a specific answer i think that that’s a lot of your draw is that you aren’t trying you know like you literally are just being you doing your thing being in your own little world and then of course for

(51:40) your living you happen to have to be charismatic and have these these qualities to be on uh you know on air have your voice on air which carry through to the rest of your life you’ve practiced them a lot you’re very skilled and competent in that and i think that personality and that confidence that you’ve built through your career shines through in so many other places of your life and and collects you know people i’m not just kidding your house but husband love you in any case thank you for being super duper vulnerable

(52:07) with all your answers with us yeah and we mercedes and i try to stay vulnerable as well so um yeah so here’s a question to keep us in that mode um what is something that you think you know about each of us that we don’t know about ourselves oh wow um you you probably know this i’ll throw it out there anyway um you’re the most vulnerable person i’ve ever met really by a lot by a lot by a significant amount um sounds dangerous yeah no no it is you tell them i’m like how are you alive jade you have told me stories and i’m

(52:54) not going to repeat marriage i don’t know if you want them repeated but like it’s fine i was like are you i was walking to a volcano in indonesia at three in the morning and the sky for me arrived and i was i’m like alone just like is that vulnerability though how yes by absolute definition that is vulnerability so not only that so you mean vulnerability in a dangerous way not in like an emotional way in every way oh every possible way you could say the word vulnerable you are the most vulnerable person i’ve ever known where you are

(53:24) just you are unbelievably positive and open all the time and physical risk you put yourself in alone is mind-boggling so um i’m amazed you i’m laughing i’m just i’m giggling because i didn’t know that about myself i tend to agree and i think jada kind of said you you know your vulnerability wears off on people around you too like it’s a beautiful amazing thing but i know jimmy is very you know he acted out almost as our security guard half the time all right all at bellator together so he was

(53:55) conscious of your vulnerability in the scary situations you know like worried about when you go back to your hotel room is someone going to come knock on door you’re going to let them in because they say you know who are all these letters from under my door right exactly 100 percent like that 100 000 yeah 100 000 and your vulnerability seemed to attract some real strange characters like a lot it’s interesting because i strive to be vulnerable like i want to because i feel like that’s where you really experience

(54:25) life and you really grow and like feel things but i didn’t think about it as dangerous well yeah i mean of course there’s two sides of anything and i think don’t you know don’t stop being vulnerable just remember to be street smarter you know remember to like be a little bit uh on edge when it comes to stranger danger yeah i think i have now become a mom i’m yeah blaring at all way hopefully that helps because i’ve had to save your ass i don’t know how many times walking through casinos like dude don’t

(54:57) touch her yeah that’s true that’s true both of you guys the worst was in do you remember um first season this is actually before first season i was there before jade was around um on bourbon street you and me and monica and i was literally slapping dudes like i mean i was like playing whack-a-mole do you remember that like people just grabbing you yeah literally just i had to be like get the [ __ ] off or i’m gonna hurt you yeah like you know they i had to like literally like smack people off mercedes new orleans yeah

(55:27) i mean somewhere when you’re in a situation where people are so hammered and it was during i think the opening of the saints uh first first game of the season yeah so everyone was just crazy hammered there we happen to have a bellator show that that same day it was a bad idea um this was way back in the day when we first were just starting out um but yeah i do i do remember that you were you were a little stressed out of the situation i feel like i’m not as i was pregnant punch anybody i yeah i didn’t deck anybody but i was i

(56:01) was grabbing there’s been times when i’ve seen you like protecting us and your your fist will clinch oh yeah i’ve seen that oh i’ll drill a [ __ ] yeah if i i don’t have any problem at all doing that yeah i mean i’ll elbow somebody i feel like jade would be like please don’t touch me no not anymore yeah well yeah back then you would have and i would have had to drill them and that would have been it you don’t look like a girl jade that that when you know no one’s like that girl

(56:27) might cut me you know nobody worries about a knife being in whatever clothing you’re wearing don’t go to prison because you’re gonna be in trouble in there all right you’re scrubbing no i think now that i’m so aware of like the sex trafficking in texas and i’ve become a mom now i’m like really on guard with that stuff and if someone has a bad vibe i’m very i make sure they know that i know that i’m feeling that vibe and that they better not give me crazy eyes yeah no i do that i

(56:57) know i’m very pretty oh you guys know i’m like crazy protected but there was a guy looking at me and jaya at the store a couple months ago and it was the day after an ayahuasca ceremony so i may have been a little bit more uh like wide-eyed than usual just staring at us i looked at him and i said what are you looking at oh because he wouldn’t stop staring at us so that is it i’m like that oh yeah no if [ __ ] your problem i’m yeah yeah i don’t i don’t though i was like what are you looking

(57:28) at like don’t look at you know so that’s your little girl like that’s yeah all right jimmy what you got for me i’m a little nervous oh sh shut up um what do i have for mercedes wow um it’s i wouldn’t say it’s the the it’s not the opposite because you’re vulnerable certainly with me and with certain people but you’re one of the most professional people i’ve ever known and and in saying that i mean there’s a there’s a you are so incredibly aware of what you are doing and what it takes

(58:09) to do what you’re doing and what you are putting out and it is very much the the the what i have told people about you who have asked for descriptions of you what’s mercedes like one of the things i almost always say is nobody gets the wrong idea about mercedes that’s true you know exactly what you’re putting out there and this is it and this is it and that’s it and so many people who who who are in a business where they have to be beautiful or they have to be present themselves and be out there like

(58:41) you guys are there’s a blur in that line of what what’s me and what’s out there and i know mercedes and i know what mercedes is out there and they are i know exactly what that line is 100 000 and it’s it’s almost funny to me because i know mercedes yeah you know i also know when mercedes is being the mercedes that’s out there and and i’ve never known anybody that had such a firm unbelievably strong line between i know what i’m putting out there and i know who i am city strong that’s uh i appreciate you

(59:15) bringing that up i don’t know that it i the the funny thing is that you think i i’d feel complimented or something and i am to a degree like i for sure consider myself a professional you know i i attempt to do the things that you’re expressing that i do however it’s also strangely the almost um one of the hardest parts of who i am that i deal with because it comes from this place like i was talking about earlier of needing a sense of control of um needing a sense of feeling competent in something before jumping in and that is

(59:52) a lack of being able or willing to be vulnerable and willing to even try new things and be in a spontaneous situation and that type of spontaneity is i think really valuable to human life to experiencing human life and that’s why i tell jade a lot that you know her influence on me has allowed me to see that lack that i’ve bred in myself through that’s all kinds of you know my upbringing and in my background of of not wanting to take like i’ve seen my dad in a lot of situations be stuck like he’s used the word stuck a lot of times

(1:00:26) and i always don’t want to be that but i end up stuck in this professional non-fluid scenario of um whatever it is like i if i say i’m going to show up i’m going to [ __ ] show up you know and that’s to a to a flaw like there is actually a bad side of it that i’m finding these days yeah well how there’s like mine it can be a flaw in yours can be a flaw um i feel like that’s how we say we’re like the yen to each other’s yang because like we really balance each other out and so we made a

(1:00:59) really great team you know working together and um i remember one night we went out to eat at some italian restaurant and we everyone at the table this was really fun we gave each other a word like we would be like okay mr d’s turn and then everyone would decide a word for her and i remember for me they chose dreamy and for mercedes it was something to do with being logical and being responsible and like we all met dreamy as in like my head’s on the clouds you know so it’s like it is that was what

(1:01:25) seven years ago and the answer’s still so similar you know we don’t change quick we don’t yeah um yeah well thank you i think that was a good tidbit like you know us probably better than most people i mean we’ve spent literally so much time with you you’re our brother a lot so moving on um there’s a few questions we like to ask everyone who will be coming on the show since you’re the first um and i’m kind of surprised that we haven’t asked you this already but we may have and i just don’t recall so

(1:02:02) you’ll remind me no problem so first off first question what advice would you give to your 25 year old self wow um man me at 25 um to kind of enjoy the process a little more would be my because you know i didn’t know i was going to be able to do anything with my life when i was 25 so um the idea that i just enjoy what you’re doing while you’re doing it more than worrying about where this is going to lead you and where it’s going to take you and how you’re going to be and are you going to

(1:02:30) be all right you know having alcohol dad who was often on homeless from time i was nine years old you just you wonder if the floor is gonna drop out from you all the time so um that feeling of like oh man is everything gonna be all right just enjoy what you’re doing right now just are you fighting and training and liking it yeah okay well then do that and it’ll take you somewhere um i didn’t have that when i was 20.

(1:02:54) so um that would have been what i would say enjoy what you’re doing that makes sense that’s really good that’s something that i um that was similar to what i would tell myself if i was uh you know to be able to give myself advice at the age of 25. um well if you could have the whole world read one book and i’m really interested in your answers since you’re such a bookworm uh which book would it be uh a short history of nearly everything by bill bryson um good book um i’m not a like four agreements or whatever it is like this will change

(1:03:28) your life i’m that’s just not me like i don’t read a lot of like i’ve read a lot of philosophy books but i’ve never been like oh my god they’ve changed my life i’m now a buddhist yeah it’s just i’ve read a lot of it i’ve read a lot of stuff but i but i’m a knowledge guy and a short history of nearly everything by bill bryson is a a great book because it’s a short history of nearly everything so yeah it’s a just great overview and i think the world could do with a little more uh

(1:03:51) science foundation and that’s what that book’s all about so yeah i’m gonna get that on audible yeah me too good um do you i mean i know the answer to this but for our listening audience sure do you subscribe to any religion per se or any philosophy of life per se yeah i know i also because you have tattoos that are of a hindu background you know it makes it something you want to ask you when you see you especially which i mean don’t know how many times you’ve seen me shirtless it’s just it never the first

(1:04:28) question that comes to mind is i seem religious yeah up here mercedes up here okay okay so so i’m not just abs mercedes i’m not just abs and ripping muscles mercedes i’m just checking out your tats man no i’m not religious at all um wasn’t raised with any religion been an atheist my whole life um i got into hindu art when i was in college and um i took some eastern history classes and stuff like that and and so i have three hindu tattoos and they kind of go all the way around my body um but yeah i’ve never been

(1:04:59) religious that’s never been a thing of mine um my mom’s a recovering catholic my dad was an atheist for for years and years and years um forever um he saw horrible things with religion you know he grew up in the hills of kentucky and snake handling uh pentecostal people under a tent speaking in tongues and weird weird stuff so he hated that stuff did your parents relay that to you as a child oh yeah my dad yeah yeah he was like you know he he saw horrible things i mean like you know he saw you know burning crosses and stuff

(1:05:32) so he saw religion is really negative and terrible and all that stuff and then my mom grew up catholic but had like some really bad experiences uh growing up in catholic school and stuff so um we weren’t raised with any religion um how do you see religion now like it since you’ve gone you know through so much life not using it and you’ve seen it i’m sure a lot of people in your life do use it because that’s just how the world works i’ve never seen a good religious make a good person bad and a bad person good

(1:06:00) i’ve never seen any you’ll see what you want to see i’ve never seen anybody man he’s a terrible person and found god and became great it’s it’s he’s a bad person he’ll pick the clan and martin luther king read the same bible they just saw a different [ __ ] in there so um i’ve never seen anybody you know if you’re a [ __ ] person and you become religious you’re gonna be a [ __ ] religious person like it’s not i’ve never seen uh it change anybody you know what what

(1:06:28) you are is kind of in here and and and so um some people are great they’re religious and they’re great some people are atheists and they’re great um it’s are you a great person great that that’ll shine through through everything so that’s kind of been my philosophy with it yeah that’s how you decide to apply a philosophy to your life yeah no i mean i’ve seen you know i’ve seen i’ve seen every stripe of every philosophy i’ve seen people of that philosophy horrible i’ve seen

(1:06:53) people that philosophy who are great it’s what’s inside you that makes a difference so this is the last of our in-depth questions and thank you so much for diving deep with us on these if you could whisper one phrase to everyone on the planet what would it be oh jesus whisper one phrase to every other planet yeah i feel like because when you whisper you really have to listen closely [Music] the one i would say don’t be an [ __ ] would be my number one i guess don’t be an [ __ ] don’t be an [ __ ] and then

(1:07:30) because everybody understands that yeah everybody gets that it’s simple you can whisper it and then it seems like it has more gravitas when you whisper it totally tell people that so that would be my number one um of all the phrases i could think of that would be it that’s very me i heard from god and he told me to stop being an [ __ ] yeah or from an alien yeah exactly i feel like that’s essentially the same as jade’s is to be kind first and foremost right i mean that’s it jimmy so many of our answers are these

(1:07:57) are this trio it’s almost like we’re connected how we spend a lot of time together no i told you laura cinco too the commentator for invicta she was like y’all soul see merged and he doesn’t seem to let people in often so how’d you crack his shell that’s so funny i love laura by the way and i was like oh god i love her so much um i love her so much i stay at her house instead of at the hotels because i just i believe that we have so much fun together i don’t it was so interesting you told me she

(1:08:27) said that you know you texted me oh my gosh he said man his shell is really hard to crack i i know what you gotta do you gotta beat him at air hockey that’s what you said if no but that was like the first time we really like i guess had a good time together we like played air hockey and that’s my first memory of you and you didn’t seem hard to crack to me it was like i don’t know what first off for the record she didn’t beat me i destroyed her hockey okay shut up shut up second delete that delete

(1:08:58) that footage um yeah i don’t know um i’ve heard that from from people um yeah it’s just i don’t know the way i am socially can can people have trouble understanding a lot of time um and also it’s it’s funny when you get to know me in a work environment um you you guys and me had a weird ability where i would see you when i wasn’t working totally so yeah when you would get there i wasn’t working we would hang out against me if you only see me at work doing what i do especially in ufc which

(1:09:29) has much longer shows you’re in work i’m in work mode and at the end i am exhausted i can’t speak to anybody i can’t do anything social i can’t go out with anybody i go to my hotel and i go to sleep so if you see me on the way to work i went back from work you think i’m i don’t know i don’t know what you think of me but i i you know i i probably will look with you right now and not say a word yeah because i’m exhausted i can’t talk anymore you know so you know that could be part of it too is

(1:09:57) it in a work environment i’m much more serious and it just takes a lot of energy to like be on for even just as rain girls we were either zombies or delirious on the shuttles you know on the way to the airport so people always call me a [ __ ] but i just think it like you said it’s just my demeanor i don’t know what to tell you i don’t say that about jade as much i think but anyway we’re all three [ __ ] whispering to ourselves not to be [ __ ] at least we’re doing that not be an [ __ ] working out

(1:10:28) well jimmy we’d usually let you go and move on to our questions from the magic mob um but if you don’t mind uh do you want to answer those questions with us sure hit me okay um so our first question from the magic mob comes from tommy c on instagram who apparently knows about your semi-secret past as a history teacher because he asks how do you think stonehenge was built it’s a very interesting question um you know i’m not going to get into a big long history lecture here but the the one thing that i find fascinating when you

(1:11:00) have to tell people when you explain history to people or who don’t study a lot um stonehenge for example the first that i’ve ever read um that first thing was done at stonehenge was 8000 bc they stopped working in stonehenge about 1600 bc okay so that’s roughly 6 500 years of people doing stuff at stonehenge what we see at stonehenge is what survive was the last thing they did so which stonehedge i guess it means the ones that’s there now um they actually did a thing in the 90s where 100 people with rolling logs they

(1:11:33) kind of they rolled logs and kind of used that as conveyor belt where they take logs and put in front and roll the stones they moved to 40 ton stone 25 miles right from the probable quarry of of stonehenge to stonehenge they just had a lot of people working at the same time they had a big labor supply and uh they they rolled it they that’s probably what they did is they used logs as a conveyor belt in china and india that’s what they did and they recorded it so the people in stonehenge didn’t write anything down

(1:12:01) but similar sized stones were moved at a similar time in china and india the same way what do you think the use was stonehenge itself yeah yeah what lines up um with the solstice is the way it’s it’s constructed but they found a lot it’s a burial site there are a lot of bodies buried there and a lot of them a are from areas other than stonehenge so they believe it was some kind of pilgrimage site where people went there to get healed and if you died there they buried you there because a lot of the

(1:12:27) bodies aren’t from stonehenge they’re from other parts of europe and um a lot of them have deformities too so they think it might have been like a sacred healing place and so if you had a problem you would come there and of course a lot of people on the way there died or got there and died and they buried them there but a lot of bodies they’ve exhumed aren’t from there and so it was somewhere people traveled to and a lot of people had birth defects or deformities or diseases so it could have been a place you tried to

(1:12:52) get healed like a basically a a or hospital essentially that there’s some you know theory that there were these blue some sort of blue rock blue stone that was supposedly maybe they thought was healing and also the way that the uh what looks like a a ditch dug around the outside was actually more of like a moat that was for us essentially a spa so it was like people would sit in there and maybe there was healing powers from yeah exactly they believed that they could and also the stones there a lot of them they ring if

(1:13:23) you hit them um which in ancient culture that was a healing thing you know like um yeah yeah trying to slow down so um that’s probably what it was used for but um once again it was used for 65 hundred years so probably used for a lot of stuff now it’s used for tourism there you go it’s working like that yeah that’s the long of the short of it all right we’ve got a question from michael blank shane on instagram he asks how do you blow off steam um well i read a lot you guys know that i read a lot i play chess i do jiu jitsu

(1:13:59) which is why my face looks like this right now you’re just a teammate i do a lot of jiu jitsu i write a lot um those are those are the things i do when i’m when i’m relaxing so yeah play the occasional video you have like i know when i get really flustered about something um like something super upset upsets me i will like first thing journaling i’m always gonna say journaling is like super helpful get the words out like just scream onto a piece of paper but also just going for a walk and being moving moving and being outside you know

(1:14:36) like getting some blood flow and getting that stuff get you know through you the hormones or whatever that’s built up all the rage that’s built up in you all the time do you live with every day yes do you have something that you do when you’re in a really heated situation and you need to like not blow that’s up tough one um oh well you know same thing walking hiking i have dogs you guys know steeler that’s what i picture you taking your dog for a walk yeah we’re right here stephen come on

(1:15:07) whatever um stealer and penny and then um you know jiu jitsu man is great for that man if i can go train if i can go do something and work out you know that makes me feel a lot better and those are things that kind of those are my go-to’s just i know a side note on this just because we were talking about earlier you’re you not feeling like really socially confident when you’re younger um and you brought up jiu jitsu now was that ever a source of being able to bro down like having training with um other guys and that

(1:15:39) type of thing like building bonds via the pheromones and the you know experience you have together in jiu jitsu because i feel like that would be there’s a lot that transfers when you’re that intimately close with a person yeah especially in the gracies and i like the gracie gyms which i know you train in yes um yeah um there certainly is that that bonding aspect and that social aspect and that’s a big big part of it um i uh it’s hard for me to find like a group that i’m comfortable in it’s it’s like

(1:16:11) all my friends like are like picked out of all these different areas and like none of my friends very few my friends know one another you know like it’s just that’s you know like they’re all picked from like these totally different categories and so um jiu-jitsu um and mma and stuff was a way to like kind of meet similar people um to some degree they have the physical risk part um but yeah it’s always been tough to find like a group they’re like i can hang out with everybody and everything everything’s

(1:16:44) fine and i feel comfortable um but jiu-jitsu is as close as i’ve gotten yeah yeah no it’s good like and i i i make friends there and and they’re great people and i really enjoy it and uh yeah that’s a big part of it and now that you’re like about you could just whip people with it yeah i relate to you as well on the book though because a lot of times something’s really bugging me if i pick up a book and just read like 20 pages or 30 pages whatever and when i set it down a lot of the times whatever

(1:17:15) was on my mind is it’s not bothering me anymore yeah yeah that’s really true yeah unfortunately i’m reading constantly i’m always reading something yeah i know um so we’ve got to pick your poison question from the magic mob and these are always fun um so would you rather be 10 inches tall for a day or a hundred feet tall for a day oh 100 feet 100 for sure for sure sounds so inconvenient yeah but i’m not like getting lost in a in a locker and killing myself or having somebody step on me or something i’d

(1:17:49) rather be 100 feet like okay cool nothing’s going to happen right now and hang out 10 10 inches i was like oh my god like someone could literally roll over and crush me i’m not gonna probably like make a big difference in the world if you’re 100 feet you could like yeah go out and yeah you’re like godzilla or i don’t know 100 feet maybe it’s not that crazy but you could definitely make a statement it’s crazy compared to the rest of us for sure trying to think of like how tall is 100

(1:18:16) feet you’re not taller than the empire state building you know godzilla jade what about you though king kong maybe you could climb up oh i mean being only five foot three you’d think i would choose a hundred feet but ten inches just sounds so fun like i could like go hide in people’s pockets and like you are very elfish and you get to be an actual physical and i could scare people i could like get in their you know cereal box or their glove i don’t know just get in their their purse or something and jump out you know

(1:18:47) like pull a little bag of nuts they’re like yeah right and you’d go right here’s my point here’s why i’d only be 10 inches because jade would be in somebody’s person they’d go and point her 15 feet in the air and kill her jimmy’d have to catch her with his yeah i would have to play catch jade yeah right it’d be fun to be 10 inches on the day you’re 100 feet for that’s the only way this is going down you’re on my shoulder and you can yeah yeah oh my god something you’d be dead

(1:19:16) like a pirate with a parrot on the shoulder situation a little tinkerbell yeah i think yeah i don’t know i would i think i’d be a hunt i’d be 100 feet tall and then i’d like go find my high school bully or you know like i had a middle school bully but not a high school boy but i would find that girl and i’d be like what about this what about this padded bra now [ __ ] it’s bigger than your whole house i think she already feels bad enough right anyways we’ll get into that on a later podcast as well

(1:19:56) ricky lake was it from geek to chic yeah i don’t know anyway it’s funny so where are we at um jimmy yeah we’re oh yeah one last question for you jimmy where can people find you out there on the uh on the interwebs on the interwebs yeah where okay let me say that again for us for a clear take for adam so he didn’t kill me all right jimmy last question for you where can people find you out there in the world on tv social media and the like jimmy smith mma on twitter jsmith mma on instagram love hearing from the fans all

(1:20:41) the time it’s great so reach out to me anytime yes and you’re the best by the way you literally comment back to everyone you have twitter wars you have twitter wars i’ve been witnessing your twitter awards lately very i like them very funny yeah i think you’re pretty hilarious it’s very eloquent i do what i can to sound smart i love it all right jimmy thank you thank you for being our first guest we love you we’ll remember this forever we love you so much thanks so much for coming on and uh you know when this

(1:21:14) podcast becomes the biggest thing in ever ever we will be so grateful to say you are our very first guest i am honored thank you ladies and gentlemen you’ll have to be your 100th guest too yeah okay cool yeah we’ll do that okay we’ll be your recurring guest all right for sure okay we love you bye bye um i was gonna say if jimmy’s still on we could tell him to what he needs to do for adam but that’s all right oh yeah yeah has it okay uh so where we need to do a magic trick from here uh yeah you say all right boys

(1:21:52) and babes yep all right boys and babes there’s only one last thing we’d like to show you let me do that again all right boys and babes so there’s one last thing we’d like to leave you with this week per usual jade and i have come up with a magic trick which are our insights tips and tools that we want to share with you this week and i’m quickly just like falling in love with this segment because every week i go away with a new little nugget to try out so jade why don’t you kick us off what’s

(1:22:30) your magic trick this week yeah um so my magic trick is to turn off push notifications on all your social media apps and whatever apps you frequent during the day um that means you know either go in the app or go in the settings section of your phone and just hit off on the push notifications so when you look at your facebook um little symbol on your phone there won’t be a number on it and you also won’t be getting so and so commented on this photo um the more this uh idea makes you cringe the more you

(1:23:03) should probably do it um the average person i was just reading checks their phones more than 150 times a day which averaged at about um three hours on their phones a day just on like social media apps yeah so um no wonder i’m so tired at the end of the day yeah and um i mean this is something i’ve done for myself that has helped me but you know a lot of people also they wake up and they turn off the alarm on their phone or they you know get up to just grab their phone and it’s just full of notifications and that’s how they

(1:23:34) start their day before even saying good morning to their partner or setting their intention expressing some gratitude for another day maybe um and you you know think about how that may cause your data flow differently uh you because you know what you focus on in the morning is going to set the tone for your entire day so if you set up a morning routine that empowers you instead of one that like is full of notifications that’s just gonna put you on autopilot and then the mode of just reacting to other people

(1:24:03) it’s basically intentional verse reactive or present verse autopilot so um yeah it’s done wonders for me i also try to not even like check those apps until i’ve accomplished something in the morning that whether it’s meditation or a sub chapter or alone time with the kids just anything um but yeah being someone in this the industry that you know we make a living off of social media somewhat um this is a big struggle for me i spend a lot of time on my phone and that’s something i’m working on so

(1:24:36) something that helps is turning off push notifications like set aside a time a day to do all that [ __ ] get it done and be done with it and then you know live your life and meet your goals otherwise and your energy is so different yeah totally your emotional energy and physical energy yeah what about you my magic trick this week is kind of in line with this episode being uh you know surrounding mma a bit with jimmy being on us talking about our mma shenanigans earlier um so of course when you’re training anything physical including

(1:25:15) jiu-jitsu muay thai any the mma [Music] techniques you really need to be aware of your hormone levels your body’s ability to recover your um just ability to get your your whole um body and mind right so my magic trick is how to get your selenium up so selenium is a trace mineral this sounds so dorky but i found this like really helpful really easy to introduce to your life and could be exactly what you need to like break through the fact that you’ve been killing yourself in the gym and not seeing any results or

(1:26:03) not seeing the results you want at least it could be as simple as something as a nutrient deficiency which is by the way why diet is so key when it comes to getting your body right by the way this is especially true when it comes to something like selenium which is a precursor to just to testosterone uh selenium actually helps you convert t4 to t3 which is super important and um so an easy way to get it in this is the magic trick is to consume two to three brazil nuts a day that’s going to get you more than enough selenium

(1:26:47) um one brazil nut contains something like 165 percent of your daily value selenium intake yeah and it does other amazing things like helps you detoxify the mercury in your body if you’re eating a lot of fish which is you know a good addition to your diet as well thing is brazil nuts have a ton of um calories in them so don’t go overboard with these nuts they are like between 60 and 70 calories per nut so it can add up really quickly and by the way if you’re not sure what the nut is i’m talking about it’s the one you always avoid in

(1:27:28) the mix nuts it’s the one that looks like a cockroach it’s giant it’s the biggest nut in you know i do avoid those yeah right i mean they they’re hearty so like you eat one you’re like i don’t even want any other nuts and i wanted to get to the cashews or whatever the [ __ ] so yeah you you only need a couple of these a day um to really get your selenium intake but that is a huge way that you could help boost that nutrient if you’re you know lacking that trace mineral selenium and possibly get you back on track to

(1:28:01) getting your tea right if you get your tea right you’re gonna get a lot better results in the gym you’re gonna be feeling real strong real vibrant i’m gonna start eating those after i have sushi that’s that’s really interesting yeah right i like it i’m like okay i could throw a couple brazil nuts in my and they’re just like a good little snack because they’re so hearty so you just need a couple and yeah easy to keep in your purse or your backpack or whatever that’s nice i like that i like that a

(1:28:31) little magic that’s a little magic right there okay so the last two paragraphs he already has from other shows so you want to just do the thank you to jimmy yeah uh you should do a sign off every time i think oh really yeah and put your vibe on it because it doesn’t have to be the same every time i think you should okay definitely voice it every time because it’s gonna sound like your voice tonight you know yeah okay all right you guys we’re coming to the end of the show thank you so much for joining us on this

(1:29:08) adventure we hope you’ve enjoyed it as much as we have i loved this episode tonight i i really liked our conversation with jimmy i hope you guys got to know him more um i even feel like i did and i’ve known him for a long time so um yeah we’d love to hear from you though any feedback would be awesome hit us up at the magic hour and also please remember to subscribe to the show and spread the love we’ll be back next week for another episode of the magic hour but for now it’s mercedes and jade

(1:29:35) signing off until next time be a light yay bye guys well do you want to i’m going to do this best please okay thank you so much to today’s guest jimmy smith you can follow jimmy on instagram at jsmithmma and find him on twitter and facebook at jimmy smith mma stay magical friends okay do you think we should do the intro again or you like to you’re like you think it’s fine or give them another option or yeah and also i kind of want to do my magic trick again i just feel like it’s so if i were you

(1:30:14) i would just start with because where it got interesting for me is where you said how to get my magic trick is how to get more selenium or whatever it was called yeah everything you said before that i was getting kind of lost okay and then as soon as you said that i was like oh what’s that how do i get that how did it even i didn’t even know where it was trading this last time yeah okay i’ll figure let me see so you’re saying because i was saying that it was related to the podcast because it’s mma yeah yeah

(1:30:44) but yeah i don’t know it like the first like two or three sentences didn’t seem to like correlate but then right when you said how to get more selenium in your life like all of that really flowed okay i don’t know why okay so my magic trick is a little bit nerdy um and it’s gonna get into the nitty-gritty of how to recuperate and um i’ll say that again i don’t want to recuperate i think if he just cut it at like if if he just cut it where you said my magic trick is how to get more selenium in your life from

(1:31:27) there to the end it was perfect okay so i think if you just cut it right there you’d have the perfect take i just feel like it’s a the intro of it it could be important to like relate it to the show because it’s about building testosterone and i’m a female if that makes sense um yeah but i think they’ll already know you can say if if you think so but i think they’ll already like get that you know without you saying it um because it sounded so good i think all right let me see what i what just

(1:31:55) comes out of my mouth okay so my magic trick this week is how to get more selenium in your life and i know you’re like what the hell is she talking about um so selenium is a trace mineral super important because it helps you in the conversion of t4 to t3 so basically you’re going to help yourself boost your testosterone by getting more of this trace mineral selenium in your life the thing is you could be killing yourself in the gym but not seeing the results you want because of something as simple as a nutrient deficiency

(1:32:36) which this is why diet is so key when it comes to getting your body right this is especially true when it comes to something like selenium which is a precursor to testosterone so the trick is how do you get it in your body quick and easy that’s what she said um it’s as easy as eating two to three brazil nuts a day brazil nuts are those nuts that you avoid when you’re sticking your hand in the nut jar the mixed nut jar it’s the ones that look like giant cockroaches they’re the huge you know the giant nut

(1:33:16) in the nut mix that is a brazil nut you need to be eating more of those shoot for two to three of those a day to get your selenium and testosterone up they are like super power foods um one brazil nut contains like 165 of your daily value of selenium so that’s huge and the selenium is really helpful in detoxifying mercury in your body so i mean if you eat fish if you have mercury in your diet from that that’s a huge bonus uh and just as a side note don’t go too overboard with the brazil nuts because

(1:33:55) they are very calorie dense they’re like 60 to 70 70 calories per nut so obviously that adds up quickly but yeah give that a try guys i’m doing it adding a couple brazil nuts to my day you know and they’re like so hearty that you can just pop them in your mouth as a snack get yourself back on track in the selenium zone yeah i’m gonna start eating those uh after i have sushi there you go but yeah i do normally avoid those in the bag i know they’re kind of gross looking but they are tasty and they work

(1:34:28) well they work wonders all right you want to redo the intro real quick yeah okay we’re just doing it as a second take in case he wants to use it yeah he can just decide between the two just to see which one has had better energy you know yeah for sure that interview with jimmy went super long huh oh my it was 80 minutes but um yeah just that so then like with this 10 minutes and then our magic tricks it’s like almost two hours long but the only thing i was listening the whole time like every single thing was interesting the

(1:35:06) only thing that i thought wasn’t interesting was where he was talking about him and his mom helping each other teach math like people might not yeah but that’s the only one i mean we’re gonna definitely have to cut that [ __ ] down a little bit i think but everything else was so good and it was like it was probably twice as good as i expected it to be the whole interview i hope people are anyway he went so much deeper than i expected let’s talk about this when we’re not recording huh yeah um

(1:35:31) i don’t know adam will figure a way to put it in the bloopers okay [Music] that’s what i was trying to do but fifa full foam came out because you’re thinking about being how to be 100 foot tall that must be what it is welcome everybody to the magic hour i’m mercedes terrell and with me my majestic partner and shine jade bryce hey jade hey mercedes hi magic mob uh before we jump in i just want to say how grateful we are for all the questions that we’re getting from our listeners thank you guys so much

(1:36:26) and also if you have a question for us you can send it to us on instagram too at the magic hour don’t forget that’s spelled maj for mercedes and jade and please don’t forget to follow us on there as well yes please show us some love over there on the gram baby so coming up in this episode we’re going to be talking to one of our dearest friends who happens to be a world renowned mma expert and host of the ufc jimmy smith [Music] jimmy will stick around and answer some questions from the magic mob and lastly per usual jade and i will

(1:37:08) leave you with a magic trick or two to get you a little closer to being even more amazing than you already are yeah i’m so excited to have jimmy on today it’s our very first interview i know thanks for being our guinea pig oh right he’s for sure are getting big and by the way jade i was thinking about how much of your dating life jimmy and i have coached you through whilst we were all on the road together touring with the fights yeah uh uh yeah you guys saw me through a lot that’s for sure we sure did and perhaps the craziest

(1:37:46) thing though is how i somehow managed to avoid dating a fighter during that entire eight eight seasons or whatever it was yeah that’s pretty damn impressive um i however had no such luck i i’m actually realizing that i think almost everyone that i’ve dated has been a fighter but not everyone but almost yeah i i was uh luckily i was able to live vicariously through a couple your flings with fighters though so thanks for that well don’t worry that ring worm wasn’t worth it but they weren’t just flanked i really i

(1:38:24) if i dated them i liked them but um they none of them you know ever went anywhere and some of them didn’t even speak english remember oh [ __ ] yeah didn’t you you you dated one that you guys like only talked via google translate yeah i mean it was kind of cute we would pass the phone back and forth but yeah again luckily that whole thing didn’t go very far because i later found out that he had been married for almost 10 years and had kids oh so gross yeah actually though that gave me some trust issues down the line because you know

(1:38:58) being on the road with all the fighters and seeing them so unfaithful it made me feel like man i’m gonna cut my right foot off before ever getting committed because it just made me lose hope in monogamy and in relationships and just in men in general is a bummer yeah i bet damn that got dark super quickly sorry anywho on a lighter note today’s gus also happens to be a former professional fighter and i’m so excited to have him on he really is like a big brother to us and he’s seen us through a lot

(1:39:32) yes he has we have both been truly lucky to have him in our lives so without further ado let me introduce you to today’s guest who not only holds the world record for most hours spent listening to two ring girls bitching about their love lives but who’s also he’s also a bonafide historian a world-renowned mma expert a black belt in jiu jitsu people it’s a big deal badass um maybe the most esteemed quoter of the movie anchorman ever he is a pit bull rescuer a restorer of awesome old cars probably the most calm confident man on

(1:40:20) the planet a self-proclaimed human garbage disposal he’s a rockabilly fan as well and by the way the best damn color commentator in the business hands down yeah please welcome today’s guest jimmy smith yay okay i think that was really good uh let me stop this this is to take a long time girl girl girl all right file export oh [ __ ] i didn’t hit stop yet i always hit the wrong button i always hit the red because it looks red as usually mean stop i know i always do that too jimmy episode ouch oh like what’s [ __ ] with my ear it’s my

(1:41:17) wig strap okay adam we’re no longer recording if you can hear us hi that went on for a long time huh it was really good though they’re good yeah i was it was like twice as good as i expected it to be actually with um his answers and how um deep he was willing to go um yeah yeah i think even people who aren’t his fan would really enjoy that yeah i enjoyed you know i the bits that i did here i came in in between the madness i kind of sat in for ten minutes at a time and actually really enjoyed listening to it

(1:42:03) his podcast with joe rogan was over four hours long oh wow okay yeah yeah but those still get into it yeah did you see the um the thing with elon musk yeah oh i didn’t know that was him yeah i didn’t know what elon must look like oh so i didn’t know that was him it’s funny because i’ve got this thing and i woke up and i looked at it and he said tesla share prices down by seven percent no way and then i switched on the news and elon musk smoking a big blunt with your rock and honestly did you go down

(1:42:45) yeah not just him smoking yeah i guess he was smoking weed but the thing is as well the funny part is joe rogan actually says it’s illegal you’re allowed to do this or will share prices fall and literally it’s seven percent that drop today but it’s legal so why does it if he was smoking a cigarette and that’s badly that’s what makes that’s what made the news is because he did that so now his cher will go the [ __ ] up in whatever yes i am doing i agree he’ll be elon will be just fine don’t

(1:43:16) worry about his ass with that for sure yeah yeah no he sounded really good i don’t think he sounded tired at all either oh good no he didn’t yeah oh i was tired though yeah no you don’t you don’t seem as tired as the nowhere near as tight as the other time i actually wasn’t tired tonight and i worked really late last night um what’s that like it’s no it’s because we didn’t rehearse before like we didn’t do a rehearsal i was really fresh going into this one because we rehearsed last

(1:43:46) night coffee though with you awesome things like this oh no no this is detox tea all right it’s actually pretty relaxing she’s tired she’s got like this what no like i just realized that’s actually supposed to be relaxing but um i think rehearsing the night before made a huge