(00:01) and we are recording there cool and just check your audacity settings make sure everything looks good i did that and i did skype also it just says core audio yeti settings to stereo built-in output right cool and then you check skype check mine that looks right all right okay do you think uh real quick do we need to say anything about the beginning of we don’t need to talk to him about like being liberal with his i mean i think this would talk about being liberal he has a message to relay okay let’s do it

(00:52) okay computer fan is on and super loud so don’t worry all this will be the same as all the rest of might have sounded let me turn off real quick my ac okay are you yawning no i just moved my computer oh i thought i heard a yawn no okay okay ready yes what’s up boys and babes welcome to the magic hour i’m mercedes terrell and with me my majestic partner and shine jade bryce hey jade hey mercedes and magic mob

(01:56) i’m so stoked for this episode because we’re going to have on a channeler named paul selig i’ve been anticipating this day since we booked them paul’s new book is available for pre-order and anyone who pre-orders and fills out the simple form at the link on our instagram page we’ll get the first chapter delivered immediately and we’ll also be given access to a free live stream teaching and q a with paul on publication day which is november 6th so yeah mercedes i know neither of us have been channeled before but what are

(02:26) your thoughts on that gift and or power well what i’ve witnessed is that the more i learn the more i realize there’s so much else i don’t know and so on and on my exploratory journey of my unknown continues and um as a matter of fact i can pretty much pinpoint when my expedition into the gray area started so if you can picture this there i am my i don’t know probably seventh grade self laying in bed on a school night and i began contemplating death of all things contemplating my death the death of my

(03:13) parents just i was thinking about the fact that everyone dies and i remember all this really vividly because i think it was a definitely a pivotal point in my life so then i began asking myself existential questions like you know what am i here for etc and for some reason what i had known of religion thus far didn’t seem to be a solid enough answer for me in the moment so i kind of just laid there struggling with these ideas and questions and i i vividly remember it was very emotional for me i was crying and my atheist father came into my room

(03:58) to say good night to me um i was actually relieved when he came in because if you know my dad you know he has an answer for basically everything i call him like a human encyclopedia so he came to my bedside and he saw that i was crying and i asked him the questions i had been struggling with you know what what is our purpose why are we here what does it all mean and i remember him saying the scariest words he could have ever possibly said to me he said sweetheart i don’t know and those three words like i don’t know i

(04:45) think this was the very first time my dad broke my heart though i didn’t realize it at the time i know he was he was of course he’s just being honest with me and to his credit i’m now glad he was but at the time it was pretty devastating because there i was with no sufficient answer um i had no tools to work through this type of trauma and so after crying myself to sleep that night and also missing the next full week of school because i was so emotionally distraught over this whole thing wow yeah i was i was pretty worked up um

(05:24) i just remember crying uncontrollably for days and being so sad like at some point i finally decided that i needed to do something to get me past this because if i stayed stuck here life was not going to be much fun i broke it down to two choices i knew i could subscribe to religion and allow its theories to support me or i could create my own answer and so what i came up with was we must maintain the survival of our species i think the reason i felt that this was important was because i thought that if we can focus our survival as an

(06:13) intelligent species we will over time continue to get closer to answering all of these existential questions that were daunting me so this is you know obviously through my seventh grade mind this is what was going through my head and because through that experience my dad impressed on me that knowing the answer to everything isn’t always an option i’ve gone the rest of my life for the most part trying to be open to hearing out everyone who believes they have the answers and continuing to seek my own answers

(06:50) out from between the lines and i think today’s guest paul selig has i think he certainly has some serious wisdom to pass on his words are very much in line with what i feel the direction i’m choosing to take my life is uh moreover because as i’ve repeatedly said on this podcast i really want this place to be a platform for people to express their truth openly and perhaps parallel to that i want our listeners to be able to experience our conversation on controversial topics with openness and you know this is all part of that

(07:32) whole liquid truth thing we often refer to um there are so many unknowns out there and our fearful human brains get overwhelmed by this this whole lack of control thing i know mine certainly does [Music] we then often make the easy choice of deciding on an answer in order to soothe ourselves or provide us with some sort of relief from the fear of the unknown um and so like i was stating our goal in this podcast is to inspire listeners to let go of that sense of control yeah even if it’s just for the hour or

(08:09) so you sit and witness one of our episodes it’s my current belief that the world needs to have a less rigid more open conversation i think that’s really what the world needs we all need to be able to express ourselves freely without being judged or shamed and if we can decide to begin living and listening from a place of acceptance and openness instead of blatantly denying anyone’s truth but our own we could probably solve a lot of the problems we as a species are going through today yeah that’s good yeah

(08:47) so getting to interview someone like paul selig is really it’s a perfect illustration of how open we intend to be with this show jade um so with that said i hope you listeners will set aside any pre-elections you might hold regarding the abilities today’s guest claims to have access to and instead absorb whatever you find a value from our interview with him because i think that’s the bottom line here is whatever you do or don’t believe out there you know religion wise spiritual guides coming you know channeling

(09:26) through a audio medium like policy league just after you hear the information ask yourself what holds true in you you know what do you feel like is is um truthful what’s your yeah liquid truth and all that yeah i’m on the same page with all that um for me i’ve always believed in a higher power and in the spiritual realm however when it came to channels or someone who reads energies or auras which i can now do as well i always knew it was possible and legit but i thought that it was a darker world that you didn’t want to

(10:02) mess with or open yourself up to but it was like dangerous and that’s just what i was taught growing up you know in church so part of me thinks that maybe the church didn’t want me being able to use these tools to channel my higher self and feel this close to god in a way that would cause me to question some of their teachings and i’m not saying this was their intention but just their conditioning you know some churches want to get you here as well some want to act like they hold all that benefit themselves you

(10:27) can’t throw all churches in one category of course and i adore the church that i currently attend and it’s nothing like the one that i grew up in but yeah i know that when i was um deep in the church as a kid and teenager i saw some crazy spiritual activity and some exorcism type stuff and now that i hold my church more in my own home and in nature i still experience visual spiritual activity and transcendental moments um it’s it’s all very real and i think we were all born with that ability um you know to

(11:00) experience that stuff we just discredit it and therefore turn it off or or we lean into it and grow it as we get older um so i have a quick example um i remember when i was around three or four i was sitting on the potty and the bathroom and uh i was just i remember this older woman being in there with me and i was just talking to her like i didn’t feel any fear um didn’t think of her as a spirit or an entity i just talked to her because she was in my bathroom and she seemed loving and we were just talking and

(11:32) i remember my mom yelling from the dining room who are you talking to and the woman had told me that she was my mom’s grandmother so i said it’s your grandma and oh my god and so anyhow my mom runs in the bathroom and she’s like who who are you talking to and i said it was your grandma she wanted me to tell you because this is what the woman told me i said she wanted me to tell you that she loves you very much and that she wishes she was here to make you flower tortillas and wow i i was only three or four i had

(12:06) no idea because my mom i was a toddler my mom didn’t talk to me about this but that my mom’s grandmother had died the previous day and my mom had been really sad because she said that she didn’t really know if her grandmother even loved her because she was such a hard woman she had grown up you know in mexico with like dirt floors and uh like it was just dirt her floor was dirt you know they they grew up very poor and she was just a hard woman because that’s the way that she had to be to survive and so she wasn’t that soft

(12:36) loving grandmother that some of us have and so my mom was really sad after the death and felt like they didn’t have that bonding she wished she had and so when i told my mom that she what are you doing sorry is it making noise yeah really loud so when i told my mom that she um you know she completely validated me she didn’t say oh you’re just imagining that or um no she wasn’t really there because she believed it because she was like how how would she have known and my i guess her grandmother i had never met her in real

(13:11) life but i guess her grandmother made like the best flower tortillas ever and my mom was also sad that she like didn’t get the recipe but so like that both of those messages there made my mom like believe completely that what i had seen had been seen so i felt validated there and um but had my mother been like no you’re just imagining it then i would have started to doubt that ability and i would have discredited it and turned it off as i grew older and you know a lot of times because kids can see energy that’s we’re

(13:43) born with that ability a lot of times you know a mom or dad can come in and they see that like fuming you know they see that angry energy or that upset energy and a kid can say mom what’s wrong and if the mom’s like oh nothing i’m fine then the kid starts again to discredit that ability but if a mom is open and honest and like oh i’m just having a bad day i just need to take a deep breath then they are able to grow in that um i think because uh you know because of all those lessons i i try with my kids um

(14:13) when they say like oh i keep seeing this purple light or there was this man in my room instead of like telling them don’t worry it’s just your imagination i’ll say well what do you think that means or how did that make you feel um and and like allowing them to kind of grow that in themselves on a safe level um as well as being honest with my feelings when they ask about them and my kids see a lot of things too yeah my son does um yeah my son does and i do as well so i feel like i’m able to recognize

(14:43) that in him um so and i’ve learned through boulder psychic institute how to access these gifts in a way that works best for me and my spiritual growth because there were times prior that that ability owned me instead of me owning it so yeah i do believe in this stuff and i think if used correctly it can really raise your frequency and vibration and truly raise you into that higher consciousness oh great yeah i mean there’s so much of our brain we’re not using man there’s got to be some some nuggets in there somewhere

(15:15) but that’s interesting stuff i can’t wait to hear more you know as you go through this the classes with bpi yeah to see what comes from it you’ll be reading my mind eventually all right well then there’s nothing left to do but introduce our guest today yeah i can’t wait yes so let’s get to it he is an author of multiple books of channel texts on the evolution of consciousness he has a master’s degree from yale he is the subject of the short documentary film paul and the word featured on the a e biography channel series the

(16:05) unexplained and was the subject of an episode of abc’s nightline also a noted playwright and educator paul serves on the faculty of nyu and directs the mfa in the creative writing program at goddard college a true audio-voyant soul that is aligned with truth paul sealig ladies and gentlemen hey paul hi paul uh isn’t it paul selig i don’t know did i say something else c-league he said sea leg um okay um again so uh paul wants us i mean uh well you’re gonna read it again anyways when we call him but adam wants us to

(16:50) join him to the call real quick did you want anything different on the the like when it says um he’s the subject of the short documentary film paul and the word was it the documentary film featured on any biography channel series the unexplained or did he do something else like where’s something that’s something different yeah okay so the way it’s worded is perfect i just pulled it from like a few different bios online and combined them all cool hey adam hey how are you doing hi good how are you hi

(17:26) so have you have you two recorded the intro already or you just yeah we just wrapped it okay it was about it was exactly 20 minutes okay yeah cool so the audio was okay and everything yeah i thought you were starting to i thought you were recording at 11 45 the actual whole thing was starting i didn’t realize you you two were starting earlier you see that’s why i went yeah because i had sent that text saying that i want the difference noticed before he comes on and after because he really raises the frequency on all episodes

(18:00) i’ve listened to and the energy so i wanted to know that that difference to be noticeable i don’t want it to be the same after as it is before if there’s a big difference you know if you want this if you want we can stop this and send it to you and you’ll just have the intro separate from the rest so you can find the audio that works yeah we’re breaking it up now with the guard talking so all right so i’m gonna leave the ecam going though this whole time i suppose yeah okay that’s fine

(18:32) i smell bacon chris must be kicking bacon down there okay i’ve been vegan for two years how’s it going wow it took some going let me tell you yeah getting your blood tested um yeah i’m sure you’re getting blood tests every four months i really uh i really struggled to start with to be honest like a lot like dropped like 20 30 pounds within like three weeks not even pounds of fat either you know pounds of fat what are we labeling this i’m putting mercedes i put paul selig intro do you need to are you just going to

(19:31) kind of add him on skype and bring him into the call was he due at 11 45 our time or did you just put give us no he’s doing eight minutes okay i just wanted us to be on that’s fine i’ll wait for it i’ll i’ll check your files to come down okay and make sure that they’re they’re good to go uh regarding whitney do you am i writing saying she got back to you straight away but i didn’t i still think she should confirm that she like even read the instructions you know and we also need

(20:05) her thing so if she if you want to just turn the time with you right yeah the time mm-hmm okay all right well once this is wrapped i’ll send her once we start you know once we’re up and running here i’ll send her another email just to kind of make sure everything’s good i mean my assumption is she should be good with the instructions but i don’t i’m not seeing this in my oh here it is okay sorry jade i made a bunch of sounds i guess with these i was trying to move the mic mic closer oh yeah it was really loud

(20:52) over here that’s weird um it sounded like you were knocking on your laptop almost whilst you were recording oh just yeah but i don’t know yeah but it’s only you’ll be able to feel words you’ll if she repeated the words that you’ll be able to cut it yeah it was only for a few words um view of it up on aubreymarcus.

(21:14) com freedom it itself as well the last one would suggest i love hearing from you guys who are fans of the podcast i love seeing you guys when i’m cruising around the streets or when you stop by on it and all the places where we get to actually make physical contact and say hello shake hands all of that it’ll be there in three minutes my audio lessons to the next level and allow can i ask you real quick of each other because in any situation whether you’re teaching extended dance if you’re there dancing you’re teaching me as well

(21:58) and so if you’re interested in that there’s a couple awesome opportunities and the first one is coming up i’m gonna go pizza november 10th that’s gonna be the aubrey marcus weekend we have the collection of the most [Music] okay my computer fan is so freaking loud is it going again you know on the last one one of the recent recordings that i’ve done uh the recent edits your fan wasn’t as bad i can’t remember which one it was but i was thinking yeah this is actually okay and then on the on on one of them it was

(23:02) there so i mean it is what it is so if i save the wav file on uh like i saved it to my documents does that mean that it’s already in my computer somewhere so whenever this audacity thing pops up and says if you wanna uh 54 right now our highest self to come through and show up and be when we’re being who we’re capable other than on it that offering the books it’s and what you guys can consider because

(24:05) she’s not got an iphone all selling paul yeah paul selleck selig so like selling seashells by the seashore selling so i said it in the very beginning like that that’s how i said it too no you said c like i just didn’t want to stop you and we could um he could just cut out because we don’t need to say his full name every time so we can just cut out the one time you say his last name and just cut it out and it can just be paul in your story oh okay when do i say it okay all right when you say with today’s

(24:40) listener paul selig so he’ll cut it out just the last name it’ll just be with today’s listener paul um and uh then when you do the intro just make sure you say selling since he’ll be on leg all right i’ve just got your audio jade i’m just gonna check that okay okay make sure i can find him real quick on here okay jade these dot dot dot these um like starred questions are these just things like in

(25:43) case we want to ask yeah yeah if they work in or if he doesn’t answer them on his own that type of stuff so adam uh-huh did we start a brand new audacity or just restart just just start a brand new one okay if you don’t mind okay chad’s good you got that mercedes you’re opening up a brand new one yeah i’m doing it i’m trying to make sure this good yeah my thing went through on wetransfer adam you should have it yeah just just getting it now just downloading it okay jade we get so serious right before our

(26:31) interview i know this oh we’re so concerned about the sound we’re so concerned are they going to answer the call didn’t he just say he’s going to be here in three minutes um you want to hit record on yours real quick on your audacity yeah i know that’s what i was that’s what i was trying to ask her is it did they actually contact you and say that he was going to be there in three minutes or is that just your kind of time i said we’d call him five minutes prior to do a sound check okay on the email to

(27:06) the assistant so i’m going to hit record on audacity just so that i don’t have i’m not worried about forgetting it okay i’m just hitting it now okay i hit record and then i’m going to add him yeah mercedes audio good as well okay and then we’ll just do a quick audio check with him yeah hello hi hold on a second let me get my earphones in that other program running hi hi paul hey can you hit your video uh the little cam like the camera icon not the just make sure yeah okay i still don’t see you yet hold on a

(27:58) second okay that was the acuity that just went on or whatever it’s called oh audacity i see yes audacity let me get the skype thing going thank you so much sure it is here we go i love the smell of this do you have one paulo hi hi here you are uh-huh tell me if i’ve got glare i was trying to adjust the blinds it’s just that time of day no no it’s a good night yeah yeah it looks great nice to meet you i’m mercedes i’m uh close friends with kyle kingsbury natasha kingsbury um they spent some time with you you know with

(28:46) uh uh aubry a couple of times so yeah yeah nice to meet you all thank you yeah me too thanks for having me here this is our producer here adam so he just wants to do a quick sound check if it’s okay that’s fine and then we can get started so yeah if you could just kind of record yourself a little for just like 10 seconds paul and then send it to me you’re asking you know i’m like i can barely use an atm so let me walk you through it so when you go on to audacity it’s on yeah it’s recording now okay perfect so then

(29:18) you’re gonna go hits the stop button the black stop and you’ll hit go up to file and then pick wave uh i’m sorry export here and then export as wave export audio uh-huh yeah so file export as wave when you hit export there’ll be a lot of options it says wave yeah and then um you once you save it i’m going to save it as what please let’s just say paul test test yeah and um then if you get on the your internet browser if you just uh do we transfer your outcome i’m going to be honest with you i had noah who works with me get the

(30:10) audacities set up oh so and he’s not here now so w e what wetransfer.com w-e-t-r-a-n-s-e-r and then you’ll just click on the free one and on the left they’ll say it should say like start the free one so sorry it’s okay um it’s just it’s not been downloaded yet so so the wii transfer doesn’t need to be downloaded it’s just the page yeah so it says add your files yeah so you’ll you’ll click add your file and just select the paul test that you just saved um if you click on that plus symbol is it

(30:51) giving you a plus yes it does but it just gives me my own files right so then in your files go into it’s usually on the right upper there’s a search bar in the right upper area of the files and um put in there paul test or whatever you labeled that one whatever you named it yeah and then if it was saved in the documents it’s not showing up okay then see on the left of that area there should be document uh there’s like a list of things like recent um downloads here oh let me yeah i mean i know it’s not there

(31:26) normally i would just get him on with my screen yeah but i know he’s gone for the day so um so when you go to we transfer um i’m gonna go online and you click on that blue dot i’m gonna go to mine just so i can see as if i’m doing it um i think the problem the problem is we don’t know where he saved his file it’s probably mine is are you on an apple paw i’m on a mac yeah perfect yeah mac so my new default documents so go into if you see on the left side of that that area that pulled up all your files on the left side there

(32:05) should be a list that says um downloads desktop and documents should be one of those options my default is not documents but hopefully you try that another super quick way to to to to solve this would be to go yeah go go back to uh the audacity and let’s resave it again by going up to file in the top left so go to file all right i’m stuck in we transfer right now so i’m going to close out of that if i it’s not actually you can just swipe up with three fingers and it should show you all the other i

(32:44) know what happens yeah okay we’re all barking at you i’m sorry it’s all right it’s just not my forte i can drop the spirits my neither adam is who walked us through all of this to get us this podcast up and running so we feel you okay i’m in audacity and it was sort it still stopped okay okay so now let’s let let’s go back up to uh file at the top left let’s go to export let’s go to export as with again and then um audio export yes yeah export so then what i want you to do is can we

(33:26) save your file to the desktop by you selecting do you see your desktop down the left hand side of the box let’s just look good okay so let’s save the file there so we know where it’s gone unfortunately that’s not um the audacity shows up as an application there’s a fi i i to be honest with you i’m not i don’t think i’m going to be able to do this myself or without somebody here to do it i’m i’m sorry but it’s it’s okay thank you um we can go ahead and record um because everything that you’re saying

(33:59) just isn’t happening on my on my desktop yeah i have audacity up as an application it says audacity doesn’t recognize the type of file is you know it’s it’s uncompressed i mean these are things that i just don’t know how to work with okay so i’m sure it’s much simpler but okay okay what’s going on you sound great right now yeah it sounds great um so should we just go ahead and just hit record mercedes you’re getting his audio on the skype thing anyways right i mean there’s no way to go right at the moment

(34:32) but yeah okay so we’ll just record and then noah will be there later to send it anyhow right noah’s going to meet with me at some point to send it okay okay on but he’s going to do this virtually so what do i need to have on yeah so paul just so we can make sure we have everything going correctly on audacity when you’re looking at it right now you have the uh have you hit record again no okay don’t yet so on the bottom portion of it there should be or i should say the middle of the page of an audacity that’s opened up

(35:06) there should be a little thing that says core audio with a little drop down list you see this yes and then next to that the mercedes next to that on the right it’ll be the it’ll say um let’s see what is adam what does it say instead of yeti microphone went for him since he’s using it it should just say built-in microphone you got that yeah it says open microphone yes that’s fine just just go ahead and hit record and and that’s right and then once you’ve finished it’s okay yeah once you’ve finished just hit stop

(35:39) and then i guess yeah okay all right it’s recording thank you so much thank you for your patience with this okay um all right adam wait a minute stop stop stop playing back everything that we’ve had thus far so i’m hearing myself in the prior conversation with you now so i don’t know what to do oh you must have hit play hit stop green button i didn’t think i did i thought i hit record again yeah so i’ve done that before right try it one more time just hit this black stop button and then let’s hit the yellow button

(36:20) yellow the yellow button do you mean no that’s okay this is what i’m doing what noah told me to do earlier there is no black stop button okay that’s up there’s a red one and that’s it okay yeah okay that’s fine okay so that’s okay i’m sorry but i i did it again and i’m still hearing myself from prior it’s still playing the old it’s the same thing okay do you wanna um i’m so sorry do you do you know how to x out the audacity and just reopen it i can close it yeah yeah program and not

(36:57) but if i don’t save the changes that’s fine i’m going to lose the settings that noah set oh no that’s that’s okay it’ll just um not save the changes to your recording all right so sorry paul it’s okay save changes yes we can do this we’re amazing we will get through sure i mean the other option is to to reschedule it and have noah be on be available i just think he’s picking up his kids from school or something right now so he wasn’t around um i well i thought i had um okay so here

(37:38) let me now it’s trying to save it all again um um adam do you do you want to interject um yeah so just don’t save hit don’t save completely close it and then just reopen it and then it should just be a case of just hitting record poll and you should be good to go okay all right i have to find audacity because i just lost my tool i just left the toolbar hold on okay okay okay all right it’s up again okay so go ahead and hit the record button the red button um when you talk we should see some kind of green lights

(38:29) flashing in there so say something paul yes it’s it’s uh the green lights are flashing okay great perfect all right and you’re not hearing yourself back this time right no i’m not oh okay we have made it thank you paul okay guys i will drop off the call jade if there’s any problems call me okay cool thanks a lot paul we appreciate your time thank you thank you okay all right um so uh mercedes will just intro you and then um we’re ready to go yeah that’s good okay thank you so let’s introduce our guest an author

(39:06) of multiple books of channel texts on the evolution of consciousness he has a master’s degree from yale he is the subject of the short documentary film paul and the word featured on the a e biography channel series the unexplained and was the subject of an episode of abc’s nightline also a noted playwright an educator paul serves on the faculty of nyu and directs the mfa and we have to stop yeah this isn’t i don’t know this is an old bio that you have okay for some reason it’s none of it some

(39:44) it’s about four years old yeah this is okay i sent you i don’t know why but i haven’t taught at nyu for a few years oh okay so what do you suggest let me just do intro with your name and we’ll get into questioning and we can you can give us and then we’ll redo that with yourself okay that sounds fine okay okay great thank you let me introduce oh sorry jade go ahead go ahead let me introduce today’s guest paul selig hi paul hi nice to nice to be here with you both so glad you’re here we’re excited

(40:16) so paul for the listeners out there who aren’t familiar with you yet could you do us a favor and give us your your background how you became a channeler how that all came to be sure you know i i was raised something of an atheist in new york city and i was raised to believe that sort of other people had you know spiritual lives i didn’t even know what a spiritual life was or that one could have one or one might want one but when i was about 25 i had a list of things that i had to have achieved in the world

(40:50) that i thought would make me okay and i got the whole list and it was a really sort of fancy list and then i wasn’t okay and i think really more out of sheer necessity than a desire to be spiritual i started to to look for something more and i had an experience shortly thereafter there was this thing happening called the harmonic convergence i was you know 25 and i went up to the roof of my building i heard people were going to be waking up and i thought well if there is like a god or something you might call god and you

(41:21) you ask to be woken up why would it say no i mean didn’t make any sense that you would get a no so i just went up and something actually did happen and i still don’t know if i wasn’t just hyperventilating but it was an experience of energy moving through my body and not through the top of my head um and after that i started seeing little lights around people and then i studied a form of energy healing eventually to get a context for that and i found out when i had my hands on people i started to hear things for them

(41:49) so i opened up as a clear audience and i started to feel what was going on other people’s bodies and then i was opening up as a clear sentient and now i mostly hear and feel but i began to do a group in my apartment that met for about 18 years where i would just sit in the energy and listen to what would come through and the channeling began there so it was unexpected and unasked for i had to get past the fact that i didn’t know if i even really believed in channeling but i was doing it suddenly and um you know and i was doing it very

(42:23) quietly because i was teaching at nyu for many many years and i was doing this sort of under the radar so i actually had a website without my name on it or my photograph i didn’t want people to really know what i was doing and then in about 2008 or 2009 the guides that i worked with started to dictate books through me so they’ve dictated now six the sixth one’s coming into print there’s a seventh one that was just completed and all of these books are the unedited transcripts of these channelings so there’s no going back and

(42:57) fixing it and there’s really no writing involved so that’s been the process it’s been a strange one granted a challenging one but it’s what i do now that’s amazing how um how have the guides teachings changed throughout the books oh wow well it’s funny because you know the very first book that they dictated which was called i am the word a guy to the consciousness of man’s self in a transitioning time was the subtitle and that just left me scratching my head but really it was the beginning of a

(43:31) primer on how humanity embodies the true self and had i really understood that that’s where they were going with it i don’t know if i would have shown up for it because it was very very challenging for me but they brought through sequentially a teaching that sort of takes the reader through a process of of realization of coming to truly know who you are in a higher way and also having an experience of it which is very important so the books themselves the guides say are you know they’re energetic transfers

(44:06) that work directly with the reader so there’s the words on the page which is the language they use that has been transcribed that offers an intellectual understanding of the teaching but they say the real book is happening in the ethers and in an encounter with you and your energy field so that’s why people are reading these books and they’re having all these sort of freaky experiences with energy um so the teachings continue to progress as we’re open to receive them and i found that people can sort of enter into

(44:37) the series at any point because the guides say they teach in a one-room schoolhouse so everybody’s there and they’re going to meet everybody where they are you know um but that’s how they they’re they’re all they are evolving because they’re continuing they’re not done yet from what i understand is there a certain order that you feel the books need to be read are do they need to be read in order they were written i think it helps for many people to go to i am the word first because it seems

(45:06) to hold the dna of all the teachings you know but the ideas are in there it is foundational the mastery trilogy which began with book four i know a lot of people are sort of starting there because the mastery trilogy is its own teaching the first three books i think were about sort of getting us to the place where we actually feel worthy of what we can claim in a different way than we’ve been taught and so the mastery trilogy is a way in as well because they’re going to catch you up big time before they take you on

(45:39) that journey um but i i think it’s not a bad idea to start with the first one but people start with their call to which is fine um so you teach that man cannot be outside of god because god is in everything god is the frequency of every cell of your being you are an aspect of the creator nothing else is is your words so i’m in total agreement with this and i’m curious though your thoughts on why sometimes the christian church can refrain from power such as channeling or psychic tools i was always taught in church that this

(46:14) was darkness or evil and now that i’ve stepped into these gifts in myself i have a um a spirit guide and a master healer i feel less separated from god i feel um you know more connected you know and then there are those who believe in these abilities but don’t believe in god so there’s just so many thoughts on this what are what are yours my thoughts you know i wasn’t raised with religion and i was sort of outside of the fray of it anyway i didn’t think they would want me as i was so why you know what was the

(46:41) point so i didn’t carry a whole lot of baggage into this stuff but i do have some respect for discernment and i think that discernment when you get into this this world or you start sort of exploring the unknown i think can be quite helpful i think it’s good to have a teacher i think it’s not a good idea to just sort of get drunk and play with a ouija board because he knows what you’re calling in when you’re not in your body you know so i don’t experience fear around this i really don’t um

(47:15) and i think that one of the challenges of organized religion has been that we’re continually asked to give our authority over to other people or to doctrine you know and the guides that i work with says pretty much that any system of belief that says you know it’s my way or the highway is teaching in fear and that anything that’s teaching in fear is claiming fear and is an agreement to that level of vibration and the guides say that i work with say again and again and again you know the action of fear is to claim more fear and

(47:53) they say look at the last choice you made because you were scared or because you were afraid and see what it got you you probably find out that maybe you got more of the same so i think there’s great beauty in all religions i think that the structure that’s been built up around the original teachings are often not the best thing you know they can be corrupt they can be faulty they can be driven by personality so you know the the funny things they’re saying i can say this you know the guys that i work with

(48:25) say that they’ve been around a whole long time and the stuff that they’re teaching isn’t new and in a lot of ways what i’ve understand that they’re teaching is really perhaps at the origins of of what have been some of the religions the claiming the inherent divinity that is in all things and that really does begin with you if you want to exclude yourself from god or whatever you want to call god immediately you’ve excluded everything else in that moment you know so it’s like god is everything

(48:57) or it’s nothing that’s an old 12-step phrase and i think that’s a true so to your your last point do you believe that we all were in touch at some point you know in the in maybe long ago in in a distant past or in a parallel universe or whatever the case may be um in touch with our inner beings our soul our truth more than you know we are now we had a better time well i think it’s an aspect of you that still is and that’s what the guides are working to call forth that aspect of you that already knows who she is

(49:33) that doesn’t need it verified by you know a church or a culture or whatever the flavor of the week happens to be that we’re told to aspire to be like all of those things are really you know temporary so the guides say that the true self that is you is always you that aspect of the divine that’s come as you and is seeking to express as in through you is who you’ve always been this is beautiful the way we are learning here in a body and having all these experiences and the soul i believe is here to learn and to progress

(50:10) the divine self or the truth of who and what you are is that seed of the divine or god or whatever you call it that’s seeking to express as in through you and seeking to embody and that’s realization which is what the guides are teaching and i suspect that’s why you know these books aren’t really like self-help books they’re more about how one realizes the self beyond who one has thought they were i love that that’s beautiful thank you um i was going to bring up that we we end every one of our shows

(50:43) with the phrase be a light and you often say you cannot be the light and hold another in darkness so i thought maybe you could share some thoughts on that let’s see you know you are the light remembering that you are the light remember for me that i’m the light when i’m in a terrible mood is a challenge you know or when the world i see around me isn’t reflecting what i want the world to be but the guides say as you said you cannot be the light and hold another in darkness it’s the height of hypocrisy

(51:14) yeah it’s you know and it’s where you get into sort of clannishness and separation the guides say that the belief that we’re separate from other people has gotten to the the degree that we also believe ourselves to be separate from our source so you know if if i’m able to recognize the divine in someone else um including the person i never want to see again as long as i live i’m actually sort of moving up in my awareness it’s a simple teaching if you think about it they say you know what your

(51:48) damn damns your back oh so what your curse is you what you’re blessed blesses your back and i think that’s it’s there’s simple truths that are that are easy to work with yeah so aubrey mentioned uh with you two things that i really loved it was sing people song until they remember the words and don’t judge people for who they are but judge them for who they could be and you will help them become who they should be and i i love both of those and i’m while i’m so thankful people had not given up on me and my tough

(52:19) upbringing i’m also curious how do we know with everything we just discussed when we are enabling or allowing codependency or just not challenging someone to step out of their addiction whether it’s substance or to a self-deprecating mindset um you know where’s the line there well the quotes i i don’t recall the second quote actually i don’t recall that yeah so which is fine it could be the guides i mean i don’t remember half of what comes out of my mouth yeah i’m so busy taking the dictation

(52:48) um but i guess the question is how do you know when to what when you’re enabling somebody yeah like yeah uh where’s the line between i guess believing in someone and their ability and enabling yeah and and not challenging them to step out of that well listen if i if i have a friend who’s harming himself or herself part of my duty is the friend might be to say hey what the hell are you doing and if i have a friend who i think is harming him or herself with substances i may be called to say hey what are you

(53:31) doing you know i mean i went through all that stuff when i was younger that’s how i got through it i mean my ending really and i you know sometimes i tell the story you know i was 25 i was a year out of yale i wanted to be in the inter an interview magazine in the newcomer section which was like the hot thing to be for my generation that means you’re like one of the the people of your of the month and i got that and my life was falling apart and i was a playwright and i was being produced in two countries already at 25.

(54:01) it was crazy so i was in this motel room in st paul minnesota it was the gopher campus motor lodge you know with a giant gopher and a spit out the window and i was bottoming out in this hotel room you know and it took me that to go maybe there’s something more so i went through what i needed to go through and you know but the good news is i suspect that i wasn’t being enabled at that point and um to realize the divine in another person is not to to say that the personality is wonderful or the the addiction is a positive thing

(54:39) you’re actually claiming them beyond those things but you know what i mean if somebody’s bleeding bandage up the womb give them a tourniquet take them to the hospital you know be practical in this regard so i’m going to ask my guides if they want to say anything about enabling because and what i should say you know when i channel i whisper the words and repeat them and it’s it’s a little odd to listen to yeah that’s interesting they’re saying the idea is interesting but what she’s actually asking but what

(55:08) she’s actually asking is how do i care for somebody is how do i care for somebody be on my path and be on my path hold my integrity hold my integrity know the divine know the divide and not support them with one and not support them and what they want what they may want is to die what they may want is to die what they may require is love what they may require is love and to tell somebody no and to tell somebody no is an act of love is an act of love when that is what is required when that is what is required somebody should be to

(55:40) decide who somebody should be he should be who i wanted to be he should be who i want him to be my father should be who i want to be my father should be who i want him to be when i get to anywhere will not get you anywhere to realize that i’m on your father to realize the divine in your father to claim the truth of giving to claim the truth of your friend is to support them in their own ways is to support them in their own awareness you’re not fixing people with this work you are not fixing people with

(56:05) this work you are claiming but they’ve always been you are claiming who they have always been in a higher level in a higher level that’s a great gift and they’re saying and that’s a great gift that’s beautiful that’s perfect thank you what would you say holds people back the most from knowing who they are knowing what they are and knowing how they serve worth financially i think that worth i think that’s my stuff too you know or the idea that the small self the personality itself is who is the divine self which

(56:35) is another croc that we get into which is when we sort of try to to say well look at how spiritual i am which was you know you know you’re everything you know or i’m spiritual in my personal life but not in my work because my work is really repetitive your life is your life and your spiritual life is your life and how you express it but i think finally the idea of worth that we might be worthy of more is a huge step for most of us to take you know we’re brought up to believe that we’re not we’re brought up to believe

(57:09) that we’re as good as we look or how much money we have in the bank say about us and then we predicate our sense of worth and well-being on things that are are finally transitional there’s nothing wrong with you know being happy and realized in the material world there’s nothing wrong with that but if we think that we are those things and our sense of well-being is dependent upon them we’ve created a really limited experience and we’re probably looking outside of ourselves all the time to get those needs met

(57:43) so knowing that we’re worthy i think is the key the guides have said you know you know you’re always ordering off of the menu of what you think you can have you know and your life is being chosen in accordance with that they also say if you go to a restaurant with two bucks in your pocket you’re not going to order the steak so if you think you’re only worth this much you’re only going to allow yourself to claim that much and the guides really do support us they say you know you don’t

(58:11) you don’t earn this stuff it’s really your birthright you know the sun’s shining right on me so i hope that’s not too strange for you i know um that is powerful yeah um i was going to ask you this is kind of off the beaten path here but um does having this gift make you feel more alone or less alone you know i don’t see it as a gift i see it as this odd thing that i’m able to do like some people can you know touch their tongue to their nose or cross their eyes it’s this ability that’s been developed

(58:58) um i’m i’m an i’m an empath and people use that word a lot but i you know i mean if you want to know what’s going on with your brother who you’re not talking to and you give me your brother’s name i can probably step into your brother i may start to resemble him and i can hear what’s going on and like the switchboard so with that comes uh a malleability of energy i feel a lot and so you’re not gonna find me in a crowded club you’re not gonna find me in a stadium and even a department store i

(59:29) was with my assistant we were stuck in a mall somewhere in arizona that went on forever it was like my idea of hell you know just one giant door with a million people on the escalators i couldn’t wait to get out so you know i’m it tends to leave me a little bit quiet in my field and i like that but um and and maybe it does make me a bit more alone but i think it’s also i’m shy that’s my personality too so i don’t know if that has much to do with the abilities at all yeah i relate to that a

(1:00:01) lot i am [Music] i’ve uh like you say it’s not really a gift but um i attend boulder psychic institute and they’ve taught us to read energies and auras and uh readings you know um and at times it i feel that i just don’t have people to share that with um because it’s almost weird to talk about with people if if they’re not there in that space for that so um so i relate to that a lot um thank you the good news is that you’re doing it and as you come forward and say i’m doing this you find other people i mean

(1:00:35) some of what i do because you know i’m not wearing a turban with a big jewel on my forehead you know and i’m kind of ordinary um and i come from a somewhat traditional background in some people’s minds it gives other people permission you know in my practice i see you know i have you know doctors and judges and everybody shows up yeah for stuff and some of them come up and they say you know i know how to do this too but i don’t tell anybody so the moment you start talking about it you give permission for a larger

(1:01:05) conversation to begin to happen and that’s a gift you give people just by doing what you’re doing and i guess it goes back into the worth like you’re saying because there’s that question of are people going to think i’m crazy or are people going to think i’m lying yeah so it goes into that it’s not fun that part of it but i don’t know how much you can control that you know when i first did an interview a number of years ago and whoever did the interview put the little clips up on

(1:01:32) youtube you know with these headlines and um people didn’t know what i did there was no context for my work i just looked like a lunatic and i knew it and i could feel the judgment i could feel it and i said to my guides you know if you want me to do this why are you letting this happen and their response was well as long as you care what people think about you it’s going to be an issue which means it’s my problem still you know and it’s still something for me to attend to yeah but the fact that we’re even having this

(1:02:01) conversation in a public forum is is i think testament to the fact that yes hugely changing i agree um so i i wanted to ask you a personal question i am i struggle with grounding and patience um and my journey and i i also can struggle with my mother’s presence at times even though i love her dearly and my romantic relationship really needs some work on how we handle conflict um we both are still dealing with some demons that come out there and i’m not sure which of these that i brought up is keeping me from operating

(1:02:35) at my highest self but i know that something is well i mean my hunch is that they’re all kind of the same you know what i mean they’re all sort of a sense of dynamic i mean i can step into these things with you if you’d like that i love it yeah thank you um but i’m going to need your full name if you’re comfortable with that first i may need your mothers as well and i may need your partners as well but i’m the mother first so your first name your whole name first jade maria bryce you see you’re funny because you show up

(1:03:04) like this so you’re sort of aware i mean it’s not like you’re looking for trouble but you’re aware of sort of the need to protect yourself and you’re kind of on it that way do you know what i mean it’s interesting it’s not what i thought i would get so give me your mom’s name please cleo brown let’s see if i can get her she was made in cleo buckmaster sorry she comes through holding her arms and folding her arms means resolved and the energy here is i know best and she does it with warning do you

(1:03:38) understand this so the fingers up is it to say i know what i want i know what i want i’m gonna get what i want and i’m gonna get what i want now see how how you relate to this you come through defending do you understand this you protect yourself like you know you don’t want to do it you actually want to cover your ears let me just see what you need from this whole thing basically you just say that you have you need to know that you have the right to be independent from your mother’s needs and that that feels frightening to you

(1:04:07) once i go why you say because it makes me wrong like fundamentally wrong the idea of not being who one is supposed to be do you understand this give me the boyfriend’s name please the partner whoever he is scott michael cook okay i’m gonna go to you first jade say your last name again jade bryce very different with him you actually come through much more in charge of this one to my own the energy is holding my own i’m in charge i’m in charge say his first name scott okay i’m going to go back to him

(1:04:43) he comes through pointing to himself i mean the energy here is like what about me the energy is i matter i matter i matter now he’s not just saying this to you he’s sort of saying this all over the place like the idea of give me what i want i get really big with this guy too you know what i mean like i’m a big energy tell me i’m gonna get what i want he comes through and you know it’s an interesting thing because he also comes through just a little bit frightened in terms of this relationship with you

(1:05:17) and i go why and the energy here feels a bit like you know don’t you love me don’t you love me and this seems to connect to the idea of don’t i get what i want from you so i’m going to go back to you with this one see you come through managing this one which is interesting you’re like i’m handling it i know what i’m doing i’m george i’m in charge and this is back where those fists are up so the idea of the ability to take care of yourself at this way you see you you put him beside you which

(1:05:49) is good what’s funny is you actually put an arm around him and it’s usually the male that i’ll see doing that to the female and so but you sort of come through having his back and the idea here being almost that you’re like supportive and you’re not really going anywhere so chill out is the energy here that i get from you the idea i also hear from you i don’t have to prove myself to you anymore anymore i’ve done it the idea of like don’t ask me to do it again i’m here i’m here

(1:06:26) it’s like being with somebody and listen you know your life i don’t but it’s like being with somebody who’s going to sort of say you know don’t leave me i’m not you know i’m not going anywhere you know so in this instant you come through somewhat solid and now i’m going to ask about your development as it relates to these things and do this very quickly the idea here is that you are independent from everybody else and that you’re allowed to be and you’re really learning that

(1:06:56) like you’re really getting that lesson and also the idea that you’re not in charge of other people and the idea that you’re not supposed to be is a little bit mind-blowing to you you know like when i when i go to that like your jaw drops like really and like the funny thing is like nothing happens when you realize that but you’re expecting like the ceiling to come crashing around around you and it doesn’t so that’s where you’re heading which is positive okay wow it’s very comforting very comforting um

(1:07:34) everyone describes me as vulnerable so the fifth step i do relate to still but i feel like it’s um maybe what i don’t want people to see i want people to feel vulnerable around me so i lead with vulnerability but i think i do still have my fist up this is protection if you were doing that you’re fighting this is mostly self-protection do you understand that yeah yeah you do it close to yourself so you’re keeping yourself protected you know at this level um and that may just be because you are open i

(1:08:06) do it you know i mean i’m doing this with this but i have all these different ways because i’m so receptive just guarding your heart yeah yeah of guarding of protecting myself which which i do at a cost you know i think you’re farther along in in some ways you know because you’re coming through with an awareness of your ability to sort of handle it which i think is a really big thing well i do have a personal question for you as well but before that because you you brought up um where jade is is

(1:08:38) actually protecting herself do you have a practice because of what you do in channeling practice that keeps you you know yeah able to be vulnerable and shield when you need a shield and that type of thing what do you do well every time i work and i you know and even usually before i’ll do something like this i’ll usually ask spirit to put the words in my mouth i don’t think i did it in this interview which is funny but i do it before i read for people and before i do a group or a session for a book or anything like

(1:09:13) that i do work with the prior protection and it’s not because i think that there are terrible things out there what i’m really doing is affirming the presence of the divine that must be there and so i’m aligning at that level you know i mean i can’t think of anything worse than trying to channel in fear of what’s out there because that just brings you into alignment with what’s out there at a lower level and you know there’s no need to do that okay do you have fears yourself are there things that you

(1:09:41) really consider big fears oh my god yeah yes i’m a student of this work you know i have to say this all the time i’m not a spiritual teacher i have no interest in being that i’m not a guru it’s never going to happen i’m this guy that shows up and takes dictation you know and seems to have some ability to to support people in their own path you know i that’s what i do now you know um so my fears are are the things that i’m moving through every time i take another step in being public with this stuff i’m

(1:10:17) challenged by it i would prefer to hide under a rock someday no but i’m not i show up anyway i’ve learned to show up anyway and it’s not always comfortable and um but yeah you know i have learned and i will say this i’m much better with not making choices based in fear than i used to be um you know the you know and it’s because what the guides say i found it to be true you know every choice you make in fear gets you more of the same you know and so if i don’t do that i’m already ahead of the game

(1:10:51) do you feel like when you show up to an interview or somewhere where you know people are expecting you to have something life-changing to say that you have this extra pressure on you well no because i’m not the the cha i mean i’m the channel i’m not the guide so i show up you know i do live streams every week i don’t know i know the title of the series i don’t know what the lecture is going to be until it’s delivered you know and every group that i’ve done is like that and i say it’s always like you know

(1:11:18) jumping off a diving board and hoping that there’s water in the pool you know and so far there has been so i i i don’t want people’s expectations around this stuff you know then it puts me in a position of needing to please people when i’m not capable of doing that at a personal level you know the work that comes through me is the work i’m a radio if you think about it that way i’m not i’m not necessarily the song that’s playing when i’m channeling right i love that yeah like the visual gives me

(1:11:48) um okay so i’ll get to my personal question if you’re willing to take it see if we can all right uh so i’ve been told by a couple different eastern medicine practitioners now that my liver specifically is angry with my dad and i’ve also had issues with my digestion for literally as long as i can remember um so i’m wondering if this struggle is connected to something i’m not seeing because i’ve definitely put a lot of work into it well you know i don’t i always say i don’t do medical readings

(1:12:19) and i don’t it’s not what i do in my work i can feel things but because i’m not a doctor i don’t pretend to be i i do believe that the liver holds anger um and resentment so i’ll tune in to you can i have your whole name mercedes terrell i miss terrell let me see if i can get you you come through as if to say i’m going to be smiling no matter what if it kills me and you’re grinding your teeth as you’re doing this so there is anger but you see the thing is what i suspect about this is you actually feel

(1:12:54) that the anger gives you some power so i can use it like if i keep it here i have some ammunition you know what i mean i if it’s going to come out if it’s going to come out i suspect it’s going to be really specific how it comes out like i’m not going to squander it so let me see what this is about yeah okay i i’m not going to disagree about the father is your father living yeah can i have his name roger terrell roger stewart let me see if i can get him i’m not hearing he comes through

(1:13:36) he comes through looking looking looking looking say your first name again mercedes let me go from him to you mercedes i got it no it’s all right his energy is you’re gonna do what i want and with this is i’m gonna say a sense of threat it’s stated factually people do what i want and you will not be different you know the guy i don’t i’m gonna go from you to him you see you it’s funny because you come through good and pissed but to me when i tune into this with you it feels like a way of sort of

(1:14:24) reclaiming your own authority and power in this relationship you know what i mean if i’m angry i can’t be messed with do you understand that yeah does that make any sense so let me see can i add in something can i just add in a name and see how it feels to you maybe well give me the context for the name but sure uh this is my um i guess you call her stepmother she’s not around anymore she’s alive but she’s not um with my dad anymore but she was a big part of my life valerie velardi let’s see if i can get her

(1:15:01) she comes through acting ignorant do you understand this as if to say i don’t know what’s going on this i’m not going to look at this don’t make me responsible there’s a fair amount of denial here do you understand this i want to put myself in my little box and i’m going to manage my life i put you outside of the box just so you understand like you’re out there and i’ll deal with you kind of as i have to but i don’t look at you you’re not my focus of attention she actually comes

(1:15:38) through controlling the father in this dynamic you know she puts him in the box to get her needs met saying this yes i’m going to say i i’m going to have to bleep everybody’s names out of this thing if this thing ever airs i don’t want people showing up on my doorstep um let me see i just feel this woman was basically trying to get her own needs met to understand in this dynamic you feel somewhat in the way definitely and so you were you were blocked this is this is an obstruction i’m gonna go from you to her

(1:16:16) you see the thing that with you it’s sad here when i go to you to her it’s not angry it’s sad i feel like you know if i had a puppy and i didn’t want the you know i feel like it’s what happens like when you put the puppy in the room and you close the door on the puppy to keep them out and the puppy just sort of doesn’t know what he’s done you know and he doesn’t understand why i mean you come through like how and why is this happening that kind of energy i want to suggest that this is an older

(1:16:52) relationship for you anyway and you’re learning through it still progressively the funny thing is there’s really not anger between you which is funny i don’t feel that like i feel like you kind of understood what happened and what you needed to do but if i wanted to blame anybody in this one i’d probably blame my father you know what i mean because i mean i’m i’m making a jump here because and this feels like it has more to do with sort of not protecting you and your own needs okay that makes sense 100

(1:17:28) that that’s exactly what i would um i’d say it was more of a struggle in my younger years especially it definitely was something i grew through not fully gone you know i haven’t gone all the way through it i think but i have brought this up with my dad we’ve talked extensively about it um and which has helped me move through a lot of it but i think i have recently realized i was putting so much um blame like you say on my on my father for something that he was most likely doing the best he could in the situation at hand you know

(1:18:08) they all are yeah yep they are so just realizing that that everyone’s working from you know the best of their abilities in that and they’re all just trying to heal their own pain yeah that’s been a big realization for me with my parents thank you um yeah you’re welcome so we have one joint question um we are wanting to offer healing and enlightening and knowledge to our listeners and to ourselves but how do we separate our ego from the goals of this venture yes i would suggest that it becomes about

(1:18:39) the work and not about your own identity or how you’re seeing but the fact that you are being seen do you understand there’s a difference there the idea of showing up for the work because it’s important it’s what you have to offer you care about it’s what you care about that’s going to really see you through and that’s going to see you through kind of regardless of what others decide about you or about this if you make it about that you’re going to potentially end up sort of you know making it about what people

(1:19:15) want and that may not be what you’re really coming for here but your question was about how to keep the ego out of it i’m going to ask i actually hear you’re both doing well you both actually understand that this is an idea of who you are that’s being presented publicly you already have a sense of this an awareness that a visual persona is a persona and that who you really are is much deeper and more powerful than what people would decide if you really operate from that place you have great authority in your lives

(1:20:00) the the simple simple thing they’re saying stay in truth stay in integrity you’ll be fine you’ll be fine do you understand that yeah i think i love that when you speak to us knowing that the outside you know idea of who we are isn’t necessarily who we are speaks really true to jaden and i since our you know background are as professional models we definitely are acting in all of those spaces you know in our career so this podcast i think is really the first time we have both had been able to access a platform where we

(1:20:37) can speak about you know speak from our truth speak about our inner selves so it’s that’s why i think it’s so exciting it lights us both up we’re really yeah well i’m glad i love that um yeah i feel like that was kind of like a miniature plant medicine ceremony for me that was a lot of truth for me thank you um we do so with every guest we like to end the interview with three quick questions um the first one is what would you tell your 25 year old self don’t be so frightened that’s what i would say to him i think

(1:21:16) and don’t be so frightened of the world do you still have to tell yourself that today yeah i do but i think my 25 year old my when i was 25 is when i started to open up it was a real big change i i literally forgot who i i was in some ways it was a big transition and it was challenging on every level and it was practically scary so yes i think i still do but i i have a an awareness that i’ve come this far and i’m still here and i’m i’m twice that age now so i’m still around maybe it’s

(1:21:53) what broke you open i think it did actually yeah it’s true that as you as you get to experience and practice going through the fear coming out the other side going through the fear coming out the other side you eventually gain some faith in it’s gonna be okay you’re gonna make it to the other side of whatever this is right yeah that comes with practice doesn’t it so another question um we like to ask is if you could have the world read one book which would it be besides all of yours of course besides

(1:22:27) all of mine i don’t have an answer for that i really don’t you know i i taught and i i directed a master’s program in creative writing for many years actually and um i couldn’t answer it then either i think people are called to to what’s the most true so no answer i have to pass on that question that’s okay like maybe is it is it a better practice to you know open up your your ibooks or something and just kind of sift through and see what you’re drawn to cover wise the title title wise what

(1:23:02) i know for me you know the stuff that i’ve needed has shown itself when i’ve needed it if i’m really open to it especially true i think with with with teachings um so i don’t know i don’t i don’t recommend it i think people are people are called in very different paths you know the guys that come through me are teaching one way of working it’s not the only way god forbid it should be you know we’re all on different journeys um so yeah i think if you’re called to something i hear with my books people

(1:23:33) walk into a bookstore and they fall off the shelves in front of them i hear that kind of story you know yeah my uh my best friend tom shadyak wrote a book called um life’s operating manual and he you and him are so much alike everything that you guys say and i almost called you tom a couple of times yeah um so he when i asked him that question he said almost the same exact thing you said and then he said i would just say to let every morning sunset be the book that you read and i thought that was that was really beautiful

(1:24:08) um yeah um so the last question and this could be from you or um you know the guides whatever you feel for the listeners it’s um if you could whisper one phrase to everyone on the planet what would it be i hear no love no love i hear if you know love you you know everything because everything is in love once you know it once you know it period and they’re saying period that was from them no love that’s beautiful i love that paul before we uh get on to the last question do you paul the person and i don’t know if i’m separating this

(1:24:53) just because that’s how i’m used to doing with my ego and you know my separate selves do you feel like do you ever feel neglected because people want to speak through you know want you to speak um the guy’s voices through you yeah well i mean i i’m more present in my work you know when i first started doing workshops i would say hello on the in the first five minutes and then i would say thank you all two days later when the workshop ended and that’s about all you would hear from paul except it’s time for a break

(1:25:28) and now they teach and i get to come through and talk more as myself and i make the distinction so i don’t feel like you know a ventriloquist puppet i do feel like a radio and a radio can play different broadcasts and one of the broadcasts that i play is paul you know the personality and the band that you know that is a bit shy and you know you know wants a partner and thinks he’s done with new york city and all of those small cell things that i i know myself through um but do i feel neglected i don’t feel

(1:26:04) i’m very fortunate for some reason for the most part people kind of get it with me and i think it’s because i’m not trump pretending to be somebody that i’m not you know what i mean so they kind of get it you know and i so i don’t feel bombarded by stuff um i do feel though that my job is to show up for this work with other people because if there’s nobody to listen to the channeling there’s there’s no talking that’s going to happen i can’t really just do it for myself and it’s so healing yeah

(1:26:37) i’m wondering how it comes to play in your romantic relationships like did the channels ever come out when y’all are in conflict well first of all i mean i’ve said many times when people say you know it must be great being able to do this and i’ve been saying for too many years now you know the guides have yet to get me a date it’s not it’s not date bait doing what i do um it hasn’t happened yet so i’m still waiting so if you want to put the word out you know the funny thing with this is

(1:27:10) that you know what i do i used to tell people you know sometimes i meet somebody and when i was still teaching in academia you know and i had a good job in academia you know and people say what do you do and i’d say well i’m a psychic and i teach and i say oh what do you teach never happened and then i had other people that assumed i was working in some basement in bleaker street with a deck of tarot cards and a flashing psychic sign you know uh taking spells off people and that’s not my work either

(1:27:41) you know i’m this i just do what i do that’s all it is so of course i’m assuming that there’s you know that that’s interesting to somebody out there we’ll find out i’m sure i’m sure that it is i just love yeah i just think it’s really beautiful that you come and you know you have this vulnerability by even just accepting and sharing uh whatever you’re channeling in the moment with people i mean it to me i try to put myself okay in the shoes of how i would be able to relay that message while all

(1:28:14) my you know inner ego is saying everyone’s going to think you’re you know this way that everyone’s going to have these judgments and just take myself out of that and say who cares well you know it’s not easy all the time i don’t love it when it happens i can’t control it um i do have the choice whether or not to read about it or to you know i’ve learned not to read the comments you know and stuff it’s just why why do that but i suspect that’s probably true for anybody you know and and part of what i’m doing i

(1:28:50) mean i there was some guy who once this is years ago when i was googling myself somebody shared a video of me channeling and you know when i channel i’m talking sometimes a mile a minute so fast like you can barely understand and repeating everything and i was channeling on my feet in those days so it was like a rooster with his head cut off walking in a circle yammering and somebody said look at this guy he’s working much too hard to be faking it and i thought well that’s great if i was gonna make it i’d

(1:29:20) find it much easier it’s exhausting yeah you know it would be it would be and i would probably be telling people what they want to hear sure and i can’t you know what i mean i’m not with the stuff that’s coming through me isn’t rainbows and unicorn stuff it’s about you know who we truly are and some responsibility to that it takes a little more work i think too i was just gonna say at the base level even if you know you’re a skeptic which i consider myself a skeptic to some degree i know paul you said you

(1:29:48) considered yourself a skeptic as well if you you know consider yourself this skeptic atheist agnostic whatever it is uh whatever label you want to put on it what you’re saying and what the guides are speaking through you if you know you can feel it resonates truth it’s pretty obvious at least to me if the person who uh whoever you know who’s listening to this right now isn’t receiving that then fine but i think that you can you are bringing that to light in a way that makes people pay attention

(1:30:23) that’s what’s pretty cool you know and paul is doing that as well as the guides coming through and obviously helping out in that case yeah and what what uh really stands out for me is that your words whether they’re through the guides or through you they’re so healing and they make people feel seen and that’s what everybody’s really craving is healing and to be seen so i’m so thankful that you shared that with us and oh i i wish this was a week-long podcast episode so last question for you paul

(1:30:57) where can people find you on the interwebs and um the name of your new book and how they can pick it up sure the new book is called the book of freedom it’s out november 6th you can get it you can pre-order it now on you know amazon or any of the barnes noble wendy bound any of those sites it’s out there and my website is my name it’s paul selig p-a-u-l-s-e-l-i-g-dot-com and i do you know weekly channelings online on wednesday night so there’s information on how to how to join those and there’s a lot of stuff that’s just

(1:31:36) available for people to see and i do workshops all over the place so i’ll be in denver fairly shortly and you know and the eslint institute all over the place so you know people want to sort of work with the guides their opportunities to do that as well do you think in person it’s a more powerful experience that way what happens in person um is that you’re working with the energy with partners with other people and so you can have your own experience of it i think that’s really important once you

(1:32:04) have your own experience of the energy and sort of aligning at that level and sort of being in that broadcast in a way that’s physically palpable that changes everything because then you’re in your knowing you’re not saying well maybe this is true maybe it’s not when you feel the current of energy working through you and you know it and you’re working with a partner who can confirm it that’s what changes things so that’s what i really like about about the workshops and you know the guides

(1:32:31) like to talk so it’s always different they’re always speaking to what they’re teaching and what their teaching continues to progress amazing i can’t wait for the the following book as well oh that one that’s going to be exciting yeah that’s coming that’s in august that’s called um beyond the known they’re teaching realization now so it is exciting stuff i’m extremely excited thank you so much paul thank you thank you for having me you’re very good at this and you’re delightful to speak with

(1:32:58) so thank you for having me thank you so um if you i i know you want to wait for noah if you just hit stop okay um and then maybe just leave your laptop open until he you meet up with him hold on let me find let me find the right screen stop is the red button or stop is the black square you’ll know it’s stopped once the green stops going on audacity yes i don’t have a black square on mine oh is there like a square next to the green play button oh how interesting so i’m going to i’m going to hit the record button again i

(1:33:43) think if that unless that’s going to i’m going to hit the yellow button because that’s next to the play button okay what shape is that that stop it is stopped okay okay great yeah some reason you got different colors than us and so the the voice bouncing is stopped on it as well that’s stopped okay okay okay i’m gonna not gonna touch this until i hear from noah perfect and he’ll he’ll work with you to um to hopefully to whatever happens next so hopefully you’ll sound great all right

(1:34:13) thank you so much paul we appreciate it oh my pleasure and be careful about those names i’m always cautious yeah they’re your idea they’re your people yes you know what i totally am not mine thank you take good care all right let’s see how we hang this up what do you think um did that did that all ring true for you about your mom and your stepmom uh is my dad and my stepmom my f the first portion of about about my dad trying to force something on me no but that maybe it’s the broadcast for him

(1:34:58) oh that’s why i brought up my stepmom or whatever you want to call her because um she was why i was angry at my dad for basically my dad didn’t protect me against her in my my fight so the second half made more sense then yeah so like i was basically angry at my dad not even angry just sad and disappointed that my dad never was a man in my eyes and it has affected me throughout like be i have become the man you know that’s why i’m have this masculine energy and um and i and i transferred that like we’ve

(1:35:35) talked about in other episodes where i’m like trying to be i’m the biggest man in the relationship you know like i’m looking for someone to outman me because my dad never stepped into the place of of being the shining armor that i thought a man was supposed to be yeah so yeah how about you yeah i’m gonna have to go back and listen to it again because it was so fast and so much information and i was like yeah okay i need a pin okay okay okay and i’m excited to listen to this too i’m excited and i think about it

(1:36:08) people i think people are going to really think it’s interesting i think we talked enough about like he was open and gave enough about his how he got to be where he was and like sold him sold his technique enough i know it’s bad to say sold but you know what i’m saying like people need to really understand how this all gets set up so that they can put it in their in the right place in the brain instead of just going like this guy’s crazy or whatever i do i didn’t ever ever ever realize until

(1:36:36) you said it i do think that i’m in charge of everyone like and not in a way not in a way of being the boss but in a way of i have to make sure that they do not do wrong like i’m constantly 12 disciples of 12 or whatever but it’s why i don’t it’s why i don’t sleep well because i’m making sure scott gets home sober at a decent hour yeah like i’m in charge of him you know yeah and um it’s why did you just realize that right now yeah i mean you just realized right now that’s why you don’t sleep well

(1:37:12) oh no no but i didn’t realize it’s because i felt in charge with him i just knew i was waiting to make sure he got home yeah i didn’t realize that it was because i think i’m in charge oh goodness and then like with my mom even like i feel like i’m in i have to be in charge and make sure she doesn’t revert back to that old personality you know or that she’s on her medication when she’s around my kids you know like not that i’m the boss but that i’m in charge of making sure everything’s

(1:37:41) gonna be good yeah you know um so adam do you think we should be we should probably do like a decap at the end like we just did kind of talking about what he brought out of us well so i think i don’t think i want to hear back what we said because i don’t think that um i can say like i’m waiting for scott to come home sober you know what i mean yeah that’s what i’m saying maybe you can just pull out parts like it was really accurate or not or however you want to say it but i think i don’t know maybe there’s enough

(1:38:14) already in there let’s hear it let’s hear it i think he can just cut out that part and it would still be it still works if he just cuts out the part where i’m waiting for scott to come home sober that whole paragraph still works you know what i mean okay and the part about my mom on her medication just those parts where i like air their dirty laundry um but okay so start with the exit um that was awesome that was i i definitely feel um my spirit um at a higher frequency right now like i definitely feel um that feeling of right after a big

(1:38:57) enlightenment um like the mornings after a plant medicine ceremony um i feel like i just had a quick one you know so i just feel like i’m excited to sit with it for a little while i really am excited to listen to this episode back probably a few times and kind of got to make another list of all the info we got yeah but um i just during the interview with paul i i sat back at some point i don’t remember exactly where what was being said in the moment but i noted to myself like holy jade we’re doing this you know like

(1:39:37) we are that went so much better than i thought it was gonna go off though because this is our first all of our guests are great they’re all amazing but this was our first like really legit interview where we didn’t know the person and like we’re like kind of shaking beforehand because we’re like okay how’s it going different yeah yeah and it went it went amazing but i i know um you know like i said before i meditate before every one and i ask the universe for a clear message and the clear message today was and and it did

(1:40:09) happen um do not analyze his words let your heart listen and let your heart respond and i think it’s part of the reason why i’m not remembering everything that was said is because i’m like i wasn’t analyzing it at all i was just feeling it and letting my heart take it all in so now i need to just sit with it um but now i i feel like i just had five espresso shots and i’m like what time is it where are my children what am i going to do the rest of the day yeah um do we have a magic mop question yeah let’s get

(1:40:45) into the the rest of the show now yeah so right from the magic mob one of you amazing listeners sent this in who is it andy h from instagram uh i don’t know how to say your last name so i’m just going to go with andy h do you believe in ghosts and or aliens is what he asks which makes sense for this episode yeah i am i think it’s naive of us to think that we’re the only creatures out here you know what i mean like i think it’s super um silly of us to think that there are not aliens um i know the story you gave at the

(1:41:31) beginning of the show i i would assume you believe in ghosts at least well yeah i’m going to get into that because that’s a longer one quick answer is the aliens one also you know when we’re when i’m on plant medicine with a group of other people and we’re looking at the stars because we’ll walk the labyrinth and we’ll be looking up and it’s just we’ll see something and we’re like we know we’re all seeing the same thing and the next day we explain it all the same and the shaman that’s there is like

(1:41:54) yeah that that was a ufo so i know it sounds weird but when you’re there there’s no doubt you know so i definitely believe in those um as far as ghosts i don’t really like the word ghost but i do believe in spirits and entities and i have experienced them um in uh did you see me jump no why you saw something no but i forgot i got a dog i was so into the episode and everything happened i thought you saw a spirit ghost um well i only had her a couple days so but yeah so i’ve i’ve experienced um especially in this apartment

(1:42:42) a lot of spiritual activity i’ve experienced it my entire life as a kid from the time i saw the grandmother as a teenager and now i will see so i’ll tell a quick story about my bathroom please um so my bed room has the bathroom connected to it and every now and then i’ll see uh so this is gonna make me sound crazy but every now and then i’ll see like a flashing red light or a flashing purple light or a flashing like white light and it’s not didn’t fill the room it’s almost like a a dna wave or like a frequency wave okay

(1:43:29) and it’s always in my bathroom well i also feel someone hit my bed sometimes like wake up and it’s like an aggressive uh like they want me up and so this made me think that there was a negative entity in my apartment um well you know i just was praying and trying to ask them to leave nothing was working going on a year and i finally tell my shaman so what what broke it was i was laying in bed one night and i saw a red a fiery red crab come i hope we don’t lose all our listeners after this story too late

(1:44:10) [Laughter] i swear i’m not crazy keep going fiery red crab crawl out of my bathroom in the air though and go all the way and i wasn’t scared i was like what the hell is this crab doing and i’m wide awake i sit up i’m not in perilous paralysis sleep paralysis i’m like sitting up so the crab goes above my head and then crawls down the back wall and i thought oh and i tell two very close friends the next day that i feel you know have my best interest at heart because i knew they weren’t going to

(1:44:41) tell me i was crazy and um you know they were like you something is meant to happen here these things are happening for a reason so i tell my shaman like i’m beginning to think that i’m freaking crazy like a red crab floating in the air as well as the lights well the shaman comes over i didn’t tell him that those were coming out of the bathroom i just told him in my apartment well he comes does a blessing blow some mupacho well he goes in my bathroom a couple times in and out in and out and then he says

(1:45:09) every time i go in there i forget where i’m at uh there’s a portal and i’m like walking through it and there so there’s a someone something that happened in this bathroom opened up a portal for spirits and entities to come in and out and he was like i’m going to do a blessing i’m going to close the portal um well after a little while i started conti you know things started to continue that were different and i tell him again and he just tells me you know i think that um you need to realize that you’ve got some psychic

(1:45:39) abilities and you need to go to training to learn how to turn these on and off and to be able to know also what they’re meaning and so that’s why i signed up for boulder psychic institute and um yeah so to answer your question um yeah i do believe in them um i just don’t think that they’re ghosts um i think that they’re you know i don’t even think that they’re negative they’re just foreign spirits or entities um and i’ve learned how to um not fear them yeah so that’s the hardest

(1:46:10) part well as far as i go when it comes to ghosts and aliens [Music] i’d say i don’t believe that anything is not possible so uh i wouldn’t say those things don’t exist in any regard i would just say that um i haven’t had i haven’t personally had some of the like really in-depth experiences that some of my very close friends have had but having listened to some of the things that have happened um to other people that i’m close with you know i’ve been in the same room when it happened like asleep you know and they

(1:46:50) woke up and um so i can tell a couple stories of those my own my only personal story i have is in this house actually i’m sitting in right now in my bedroom uh actually this is only when i personally saw experienced herd whatever so i was asleep in my bed and chris was next to me and i had a fan i have like a little fan by my bed and i think i had i think that was the only electronic maybe there might have been like a phone i don’t know but in any case and i have two cats okay so cats are very like usually perceptive of these

(1:47:32) things so i i’m dead asleep all of a sudden this weird noise like i can’t remember even what it sounded like now but it was like a very alien noise like it was not something i’d heard before come out of any of my electronics anything like that um kind of like a screech slash buzz electron but very loud and it kind of went you know like squiggled on for a while it woke both chris and i up and both of us kind of like woke up and we’re like it took a few seconds you know we’re like what the hell was that noise so we

(1:48:08) turn on the light and we’re looking around and there’s nothing chris gets up and he like inspects the whole house you know my cats don’t seem super disturbed though they’re kind of like up with us but they weren’t like ran out of the room or anything so but it was a weird enough noise that both of us were like woke up that was weird and i was like you’re sleeping on that side of the bed now and i made him sleep on that side for like the next two weeks and then i got over it but yeah so that

(1:48:38) type of things happen and it’s weird because when both when like you and another person witness it and you can have the intellect yeah it’s not even the sound it’s the totally because we hear sounds all that there’s a presence in here yeah like we hear sam i know i live in yeah a very i live in an apartment building yeah you know but i it was more of like some was not right that wasn’t the normal and we both thought it saw you know felt it all or whatever at the same time yeah but one my other story is that if

(1:49:07) you you have something to say what we’re going to get oh my other story was that you had a look on your face like hold on when i was much younger my best friend who um so we used to hang out at her cousin’s house all the time her cousin’s dad had committed suicide when they were much younger kids and my my best friend her name was leslie she didn’t know her uncle very well but she knew about obviously the suicide and uh those things and so one night we’re asleep on the couches at her cousin’s house and

(1:49:51) i’m asleep oh god it’s so long ago now i don’t even remember was i there was i in the room how did it work out but anyway i’m gonna go with it um from what i remember i was asleep on one couch she was asleep on the other and it might have been her and her cousin were asleep in the the living room on the couches i can’t remember was it monday or tuesday yeah god it’s so like here it was my brain don’t worry that’s not really the basis of the story here anyway they’re asleep on the couches she tells

(1:50:22) me this story that the i don’t know what woke her up but basically she woke up like middle of the early early morning you know maybe two or three a.m whatever it was and she she woke up for whatever reason calmly at first but she kind of opened her eyes and she saw someone um sitting over on her cousins those are the things i don’t like on the couch where her cousin was sleeping like sitting near him right and she’s like who the is that and she looks closer and it’s his dad you know her uncle who had committed suicide and

(1:51:04) she was spooked dude those are the stories those are the things i don’t like well then she’s like okay wow you know this is crazy and she’s like what do i do to she’s so scared so she’s like okay i’m gonna she like literally put the blanket over her head she’s so scared this is what usually people do when they see something right yeah with the blanket over there they just don’t want to see it and then she she creeped down off the couch still he’s still sitting there she can

(1:51:31) plainly see him sitting there she creeped down off the couch crawled around behind the couch and underneath the pool table that was behind the couch and literally stayed there the rest of the night until it got light again and everyone started waking up just afraid to look essentially but she was so like moved and you know had she was spooked by that to such a degree that that story obviously still sticks with me and it made an imprint uh on her for sure and it definitely has on me so i don’t think that uh that there isn’t anything out there i

(1:52:11) think we’re living in a universe with multiple you know infinite parallel dimensions dimensions and yeah all kinds of stuff going on that we have no way of comprehending with these little human brains and that includes aliens um aliens i feel like it’s ridiculous when people say that they don’t believe in aliens the thing is yeah scientifically we haven’t discovered one or you know any as far as we know yeah as far as we know but we’re just this tiny little speck in an infinite universe as we know so

(1:52:43) if there is no known end to the universe there must be no known end to the amount of potential possibilities out there including how many different alien species and planets there are so sorry for that long story well no that story about the the the dad and the chair i’m so glad that we recorded this during the day and not the night because even even with these um abilities that come sometimes it’s still i don’t like stories like that um but that actually goes into my magic trick it’s that time again

(1:53:19) um so my magic trick is just to know that you are more powerful than any entity so to never feel fear in the presence of one they actually envy you because you have a body and they are seeking something from you if they’re sticking around maybe maybe a healing of some sort so there’s no reason for you to fear any activity uh there is no good like i said there’s no good or bad energy or entity it’s just foreign and out of place um the entity or spirit you may be sensing is not there to hurt you also um

(1:53:52) and the more present and in your body that you are the more control and peace you will have over that situation so just know that you have power and you can command what you would like to happen um so you have a body it gives you because you have a body and they don’t yeah um and it’s you know they can’t hurt you um you just need to be able to stand in that stand in that um confidence and not feel fear because when you feel fear is when you know all havoc yeah your mind your mind takes over and you’re just you’re you’re not in your

(1:54:27) body you’re in fear you know so what about you though that’s comforting so i’ll try to remember that but still i get scared by scary movies and stuff like i i’m like i don’t need to put that in my head because it’s like i don’t watch them well it’s the opposite of what you’re saying basically it’s like all this other the unknown has all this power over you that’s hollywood movies first of all but also secondly i don’t like to i don’t even like to watch that stuff

(1:54:52) because i don’t like to put that energy into my home like speaking of entities and spirits like they’re all like our tv is a portal to that stuff you know like the music we listen to where you know we to a degree control what we allow you know in our homes and around us by what we listen to watch and invite in so but what’s your magic trick my magic trick is how to quit smoking [Music] and when you’re 2018 people that’s all you need to know that’s all you need to know what you got to do all you got to

(1:55:32) do is very simple you just have to channel beings from another realm who really need your body to be as clear as possible in order for you to continue receiving their messages of peace that’s it just all you have to do is become a clairvoyant medium like uh paul did that’s how he got that’s how he stopped smoking no i’m just kidding it’s not you’re probably not gonna that’s not how it’s gonna work out for you but paul yeah paul paul actually he didn’t mention it in today’s podcast i know but

(1:56:06) uh he has talked a lot about how he quit smoking he used to be like i don’t know he said like a 12 pack a day or something some insane amount of cigarettes he was just chain smoking it up back in the day and he became a clairvoyant and you know some time into doing that the spirit guides um the guides told him that he needed to clean up his act when it came to smoking and basically said if you continue smoking we can no longer channel through you because we need you know a very um clean clear person to do our work

(1:56:42) through so he kicked it that’s pretty intense man uh no so my magic trick though with all that said and by the way please please find a way to stop smoking if you’re a smoker because we love you so much we want you guys to be around forever and ever and ever uh so one little tip that can help is my magic trick which is to add oxygen to your bedroom i’m always coming with the most random magic tricks my bad but i hope you guys enjoy them now they’re helpful okay uh to add oxygen to your bedroom by

(1:57:19) getting a snake plant or two and putting like that hi puppy jade’s got a couple snake plants in her bedroom she knows daisy move out of the way you see one over there and one right there i love them they’re cheap too and they’re easy to keep alive you don’t even really have to water them right so perfect for me that is you’re setting such a good example right now jade so the reason that snake plants are the jammy jam when it comes to adding um oxygen to your space is like jade said they are super easy to take care of they only

(1:58:00) need very very little light in order to make photosynthesis [Music] they remove toxins from the air the plant is is uh what else did i want to tell you guys about it oh i was gonna tell you guys yeah i wanted to tell you guys about it uh the ability to you could be in a completely like air sealed room and if you have six of these bad boys these plants uh it’ll keep one person alive via the oxygen it produces wow i know right that’s that is crazy intense so these things i love that i feel like we always are

(1:58:49) um i know i do i like hermetically seal my house up sometimes i happen to live in southern california so there’s a good breeze most of the year so i get a little more oxygen maybe in my house from the outdoors than most um but people who live in colder hot you know extreme more extreme temperatures and go through all the seasons probably live in a more hermetically sealed environment a lot of the time where they’re not letting the fresh air in they’re me yeah they’re breathing i can’t there’s so many toxins it’s 100 degrees

(1:59:17) and there’s so many mosquitoes it’s yeah it’s frustrating so get more snake plants at least you got a couple started your journey i’m like i’m gonna move to california with my snake plants that’s what i’m gonna do come on over we got plenty of room no we don’t more room than we have here right now all right okay you guys thank you so much for tuning in we hope we were a light in your day and that you enjoyed that wisdom from paul i i’m still decompressing a little bit so um don’t forget paul’s new book is

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(2:00:21) and that further spreads sunshine so talk to you guys next week until then be a light thank you to rayton royal for our intro jam and adam from red fox audio for producing the show love you guys stay magical friends yeah he’ll do the disclaimer thank you to at rayton royal for our intro jam and adam from red fox audio for producing the show couldn’t do without you boys thank you say magical friends okay so um adam on paul’s intro um keep everything but just cut out paul serves on the faculty of nyu and

(2:01:12) directs the mfa in the creative writing program at goddard college um everything else no he can just cut it out because it’s i like the way that you said it the first time um and he paul interrupted you anyways i mean if you want to read it you can but it might sound a little bit different from then um but that’s the only line choppy otherwise let’s see where is that one um so because paul cut you off when you said nyu so all he has to do is cut out that sentence uh adam and then it’s fine i don’t think so

(2:01:55) i mean you can do it if you want it’s whatever’s easiest for adam yeah that’s why i’m saying i think it’s not easiest for adam to just have a full intro whatever way we want it okay well just do it without that one line about nyu and goddard college so he doesn’t but i don’t know maybe we just don’t even use an intro we just go with this last one i did right before paul comes in because he was like all this is old but i think we should no i think it’s important to say so let’s introduce our

(2:02:25) guest and author of multiple books of channel text on the evolution of consciousness he has a master’s degree from yale the all the way up until playwright and educator he was a playwright and educator so i don’t know why that was a problem no because he it says paul serves on the faculty of nyu he hasn’t been there four years that was the only issue with the intro okay so that’s why i’m saying all adam has to do is cut it on that line and then it’s perfect because you have two of those already

(2:02:55) recorded got it so it’s just that one sentence that he has to just take it out right now and do it for him in case he wants this take and we don’t have to do it again later okay let me tell adam we’re done okay i’m gonna say it’s so let’s introduce today’s so let’s introduce our guest and author of multiple books of channeled text on the evolution of consciousness he has a master’s degree from yale he is the subject of the short documentary film paul and the world featured on the a e biography channel

(2:03:36) for the series the unexplained and was the subject of an episode of abc’s nightline a truly audiobuoyant soul that is aligned with truth paul selig let me say it one more time okay so let’s introduce our guest and author of multiple books of channel text on the evolution of consciousness he has a master’s degree from yale he is the subject of the short documentary film paul and the word i said that weird adam turn off your mic for a second sorry sorry i told him we were done so let’s introduce our guest and author

(2:04:18) of multiple books of channel text on the evolution of consciousness he has a master’s degree from yale he is the subject of the short documentary film paul and the word featured on the a e biography channel series the unexplained and was the subject of an episode of abc’s nightline a truly audiobuoyant soul that is aligned with truth paul selig ladies and gentlemen okay adam sorry he’s not on there that’s because he got off when he said that i just said mute it mute it i think he i think you scared

(2:05:02) him oh he thought like oh we’re still going i think it scared him yeah uh let’s see i’ll just add him yeah okay nothing else on here we’re good on everything else i felt pretty good about it everything in heathers uh i well kyle said too like sometimes people hold a lot of wisdom but when they love their solitude they’re just not good interview guests yeah i mean she was fine it just like she wasn’t bad but it wasn’t like paul where you’re like you really felt like you got a chunk of information

(2:05:36) hey adam so sorry no problem how did it go it was i think it was amazing i’m i’m actually excited yeah um because it was so much information that i feel like i didn’t get to absorb it all and i want to be able to listen to it so listen back again and die a little more yeah even even if you can send the unedited version you know that would be really nice to listen to because it was like really personal at parts did you stop recording yeah okay um but uh uh